Re: Take This Test! (was: Politics and Autism)

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>

> Take a Vaccine Damage politics quotient test. Part 1.

> Please submit your answers to the list.

>

> What is the goal in all this business? Why are we all here, really?

> Some possibilities:

>

> A. Get mercury out of vaccines.

> B. Expose the govt. perpetrators

> C. Expose the Pharma perps.

> D. Reform public health agencies, reign in Pharma.

> E. Look for Dating partners.

My answer is all but " E " . My man is just fine for me! My most pressing

goal is to put the autism industry out of business. I'm in college to

become a nurse practitioner to treat people with autism; my prayer is

that I will have no job market in 5 years.

Some may want financial restitution. For me, all the money in the

world can't change what's happened, I'm content in being poor & proud,

though I am increasingly seeing lawsuits as a means to bring about

change, esp if I don't get any settlement from the vaccine fund, which

I never expect.

>

> Answer: none of the above, perhap?

> Our goal is. . . everyone should answer this for themselves (another

> hint: it has something to do with our children).

>

> So it's all very simple: identify the goal and then start from there

> to develop strategies and tactics. It's simple, but it ain't easy.

>

> I put the question to everyone here (and beyond) in our situation:

> what is your goal for this " movement " ? It would be interesting to see

> how many of us are already on the same page.

>

> Next part to think about:

>

> Before you can develop effective strategy, you have to effectively

> evaluate the strengths and weakness of your opponents -- but first you

> must identify who the opponent(s) is/are.

>

> Who do you think are the opponents to be stopped / conquered?

I think there will always be dirty politicians (sorry, I don't

discrminate parties) and indifferent voters. I think the no 1 opponent

is what ever blocks free voice & free thinking. In this case, it is

the bureacracy called public health agencies and pharma. Free thinking

has brought the answer of science. THe science has overwhelmingly

linked vaccines to autism. It's the agencies & pharma who want to

suppress free thinking and free voice. IF htey have nothing to hide,

they'd be more than welcoming to discuss it. They are whimpy child

abusers, or as I call them a bunch of pedoethylmerkurithiosalicilphiles.

>

> 1. Pharma

> 2. Public health agencies (CDC, FDA, etc)

> 3. Dirty vaccines

> 4. Dirty Republicans

> 5. Dirty Democrats

> 6. Polluters

> 7. Indifferent voters

> 8. Illegal immigrants

> 9. Moslems

> 10. Refrigerator Moms

> 11. Microwave ovens

>

> Who / what others?

>

> You won't be graded, but your answers can determine your child's future.

>

> More later.

>

> Lenny

>

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MWM seeking discrete rendevous with 40 something female who understands the term "stimmy".

Take This Test! (was: Politics and Autism)

Take a Vaccine Damage politics quotient test. Part 1.Please submit your answers to the list.What is the goal in all this business? Why are we all here, really?Some possibilities:A. Get mercury out of vaccines.B. Expose the govt. perpetratorsC. Expose the Pharma perps.D. Reform public health agencies, reign in Pharma.E. Look for Dating partners.Answer: none of the above, perhap?Our goal is. . . everyone should answer this for themselves (anotherhint: it has something to do with our children). So it's all very simple: identify the goal and then start from thereto develop strategies and tactics. It's simple, but it ain't easy. I put the question to everyone here (and beyond) in our situation:what is your goal for this "movement"? It would be interesting to seehow many of us are already on the same page.Next part to think about:Before you can develop effective strategy, you have to effectivelyevaluate the strengths and weakness of your opponents -- but first youmust identify who the opponent(s) is/are.Who do you think are the opponents to be stopped / conquered?1. Pharma2. Public health agencies (CDC, FDA, etc)3. Dirty vaccines4. Dirty Republicans5. Dirty Democrats6. Polluters7. Indifferent voters8. Illegal immigrants9. Moslems10. Refrigerator Moms11. Microwave ovensWho / what others? You won't be graded, but your answers can determine your child's future.More later.Lenny

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Re: Take This Test! (was: Politics

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MWM seeking discrete rendevous with 40 something

female who understands the term " stimmy " .

Take This Test! (was: Politics

and Autism)

Take a Vaccine Damage politics quotient test. Part 1.

Please submit your answers to the list.

What is the goal in all this business? Why are we all here, really?

Some possibilities:

A. Get mercury out of vaccines.

B. Expose the govt. perpetrators

C. Expose the Pharma perps.

D. Reform public health agencies, reign in Pharma.

E. Look for Dating partners.

Answer: none of the above, perhap?

Our goal is. . . everyone should answer this for themselves (another

hint: it has something to do with our children).

So it's all very simple: identify the goal and then start from there

to develop strategies and tactics. It's simple, but it ain't easy.

I put the question to everyone here (and beyond) in our situation:

what is your goal for this " movement " ? It would be interesting

to see

how many of us are already on the same page.

Next part to think about:

Before you can develop effective strategy, you have to effectively

evaluate the strengths and weakness of your opponents -- but first you

must identify who the opponent(s) is/are.

Who do you think are the opponents to be stopped / conquered?

1. Pharma

2. Public health agencies (CDC, FDA, etc)

3. Dirty vaccines

4. Dirty Republicans

5. Dirty Democrats

6. Polluters

7. Indifferent voters

8. Illegal immigrants

9. Moslems

10. Refrigerator Moms

11. Microwave ovens

Who / what others?

You won't be graded, but your answers can determine your child's future.

More later.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

First thing everone should ask themselves (before any discussion of strategy, etc.) is

What (remedy) do I/we want? The sine qua non.

How do I/we get there? The steps to be taken.

To date, our focus has been on "getting the word out" in any form with a dose of a "pound of flesh". It is therapeutic and it has been effective. The word is getting out. More to come.

As we head toward societal recognition.

What is it that we want and that we can reasonably expect this society to provide?

Part of that is the understanding by everyone in those society of what has occurred. That way, when you are standing in line at the grocery store and your child acts out, you do not get a lear, but a knowing glance and some help. You get someone to help you run after your child as your artful dodger runs away after having taken a package of ice cream pops out of the freezer- rather than a simple snear.

Part of it is going to the special ed meetings and having the people who administer the policies understand what part the school systems and their mandatory vaccination policies played in this tragedy and providing a helpful hand rather than the back of a hand.

Having the politicians and executives express in some form the collective guilt they should feel for the national crime which has taken place and getting busy to address same.

Making medical insurance for these conditions available at reasonable cost.

Having corporate sponsors provide funding for programs to help these kids.

Having the NIH spend significant research dollars on autoimmunity and related illnesses (mercury toxicity).

To go to informed consent in vaccine policy and a much more rational approach to disease prevention. To rigorously test for safety and efficacy in all of our products, noting that there must be a rule of reason to guide same.

To establish properly funded schools at the pre-school, elementary, high school and university levels to teach these kids using whatever methods are available.

To provide a 9/11 type remedy program with an opt out to litigate if the settlement is unreasonable.

For a start.

Take This Test! (was: Politics and Autism) Take a Vaccine Damage politics quotient test. Part 1.Please submit your answers to the list.What is the goal in all this business? Why are we all here, really?Some possibilities:A. Get mercury out of vaccines.B. Expose the govt. perpetratorsC. Expose the Pharma perps.D. Reform public health agencies, reign in Pharma.E. Look for Dating partners.Answer: none of the above, perhap?Our goal is. . . everyone should answer this for themselves (anotherhint: it has something to do with our children). So it's all very simple: identify the goal and then start from thereto develop strategies and tactics. It's simple, but it ain't easy. I put the question to everyone here (and beyond) in our situation:what is your goal for this "movement"? It would be interesting to seehow many of us are already on the same page.Next part to think about:Before you can develop effective strategy, you have to effectivelyevaluate the strengths and weakness of your opponents -- but first youmust identify who the opponent(s) is/are.Who do you think are the opponents to be stopped / conquered?1. Pharma2. Public health agencies (CDC, FDA, etc)3. Dirty vaccines4. Dirty Republicans5. Dirty Democrats6. Polluters7. Indifferent voters8. Illegal immigrants9. Moslems10. Refrigerator Moms11. Microwave ovensWho / what others? You won't be graded, but your answers can determine your child's future.More later.Lenny

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My goal has several steps.

First I want the truth to be acknowledged by the powers that be. Then I want the government to provide effective help so that I can heal my son, and this mercury generation as much as possible. Then institutional change to prevent future generations from suffering similarly.

sarah fairchild

Take This Test! (was: Politics and Autism)

Take a Vaccine Damage politics quotient test. Part 1.Please submit your answers to the list.What is the goal in all this business? Why are we all here, really?Some possibilities:A. Get mercury out of vaccines.B. Expose the govt. perpetratorsC. Expose the Pharma perps.D. Reform public health agencies, reign in Pharma.E. Look for Dating partners.Answer: none of the above, perhap?Our goal is. . . everyone should answer this for themselves (anotherhint: it has something to do with our children). So it's all very simple: identify the goal and then start from thereto develop strategies and tactics. It's simple, but it ain't easy. I put the question to everyone here (and beyond) in our situation:what is your goal for this "movement"? It would be interesting to seehow many of us are already on the same page.Next part to think about:Before you can develop effective strategy, you have to effectivelyevaluate the strengths and weakness of your opponents -- but first youmust identify who the opponent(s) is/are.Who do you think are the opponents to be stopped / conquered?1. Pharma2. Public health agencies (CDC, FDA, etc)3. Dirty vaccines4. Dirty Republicans5. Dirty Democrats6. Polluters7. Indifferent voters8. Illegal immigrants9. Moslems10. Refrigerator Moms11. Microwave ovensWho / what others? You won't be graded, but your answers can determine your child's future.More later.Lenny

[Guest guest]

Our biggest opponent is the doctors who keep shooting mercury into

kids. These people need to admit their mistake and go about the

business of repairing it. If the AAP and AMA decided it was a bad

idea to keep giving mercury to babies, they could simply refuse to

administer it and we wouldn't need laws to ban it. While the

individual Doc's are protected legally by " standard of care " , I

wonder if a lawsuit against the people who set that standard would be

possible.

We should also start abducting the Neurodiverse and curing them so

they'll all shut up.

>

>

> Take a Vaccine Damage politics quotient test. Part 1.

> Please submit your answers to the list.

>

> What is the goal in all this business? Why are we all here, really?

> Some possibilities:

>

> A. Get mercury out of vaccines.

> B. Expose the govt. perpetrators

> C. Expose the Pharma perps.

> D. Reform public health agencies, reign in Pharma.

> E. Look for Dating partners.

>

> Answer: none of the above, perhap?

> Our goal is. . . everyone should answer this for themselves (another

> hint: it has something to do with our children).

>

> So it's all very simple: identify the goal and then start from

there

> to develop strategies and tactics. It's simple, but it ain't easy.

>

> I put the question to everyone here (and beyond) in our situation:

> what is your goal for this " movement " ? It would be interesting to

see

> how many of us are already on the same page.

>

> Next part to think about:

>

> Before you can develop effective strategy, you have to effectively

> evaluate the strengths and weakness of your opponents -- but first

you

> must identify who the opponent(s) is/are.

>

> Who do you think are the opponents to be stopped / conquered?

>

> 1. Pharma

> 2. Public health agencies (CDC, FDA, etc)

> 3. Dirty vaccines

> 4. Dirty Republicans

> 5. Dirty Democrats

> 6. Polluters

> 7. Indifferent voters

> 8. Illegal immigrants

> 9. Moslems

> 10. Refrigerator Moms

> 11. Microwave ovens

>

> Who / what others?

>

> You won't be graded, but your answers can determine your child's

future.

>

> More later.

>

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

> We should also start abducting the Neurodiverse and curing them so

> they'll all shut up.

But only if they want to be abducted and cured, right?

[Guest guest]

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

> Debi

> My most pressing

> goal is to put the autism industry out of business.

OK, let's back up a step. In 50 words or less, why do you want to put

the autism industry out of business? The answer may seem obvious, but

let's hear your express reason(s).

Bear with me, this is a useful exercise. For those who are just

reading the responses, think of your own reason, if you haven't

already, and make a mental note.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

Oh, come on now! You deserve someone with a higher IQ than that, you

just have to believe in yourself more. Of course, I could be

misinterpreting your goal. There are plenty of women out there with a

40 something inch waist size. They're not too hard to bump into. Or

perhaps the female you seek is not a human. Monkies, even female ones,

have IQ's around that range. Be careful what you wish for. . .

Lenny

>

> MWM seeking discrete rendevous with 40 something female who

understands the term " stimmy " .

[Guest guest]

F. Revenge. . . The people responsible for this need to pay a price.

Robin,

What purpose would this serve, exactly? I am not moralizing, I just

want to know what you think will be accomplished by getting the SOBs?

I assume it's more than making yourself feel better. 50 words or less,

if you can keep it to that. Save some energy for follow up questions.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> Lenny's competition for the most hilarious sarcasm award heats up...

>

>

>

> H <stratpat@...>

>

> MWM seeking discrete rendevous with 40 something female who

understands the term " stimmy " .

By now you've read my response. Case closed.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> My goal is simply the " truth " . If the FULL truth is known about

this whole

> situation all the rest (A-D and a few others) will all fall into place.

Hi Laurie,

What whole situation, where will " it " fall and for whom? Keep it

short, please.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> First thing everone should ask themselves (before any discussion of

strategy, etc.) is

>

> What (remedy) do I/we want?

You've skipped a step or two. What's the problem to be remedied and

for whom? KISS and no cheating.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> My goal has several steps.

> First I want the truth to be acknowledged by the powers that be.

Then I want the government to provide effective help so that I can

heal my son, and this mercury generation as much as possible. Then

institutional change to prevent future generations from suffering

similarly.

>

Thanks ,

Good. Let's see if I can break down your goals into its components.

1. Heal my son and others damaged by mercury.

2. Prevent future such suffering.

Is this right?

Would you also agree that having " the truth to be acknowledged by the

powers that be " and " institutional change " are the steps, or ways of

getting to the above goals?

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> Our biggest opponent is the doctors who keep shooting mercury into

> kids.

Would it be right to say that the biggest concern is the kids, and not

the doctors? If so, what is your goal regarding the kids?

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> Oh no. I want it on record, in big ugly print. Then I want to cram

it down

> the throat of all of these overpaid " autism experts " who told us we

were bad

> parents, geeks, misinformed, looney tunes, idiot parents. Then I

want to. . .

Holly,

I can sense you're a little irritated by the state of affairs. I

highly suspect you are not alone. What lesson do you want taught

with all these ideal lashings, and for whose benefit? The autism experts?

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> It's not just you. I ditto everything Holly just saiand then add-i

want money to take my grandson to the best fuc---- doctor in the world

and get the best treatment that I have not been able to afford.

Hello Maurine,

I will put down that your goal is quality care for your grandson, from

what I read so far.

I too, want the best doctor in the world for my son, but having sex

with her is not a requirement, well not a big requirement, anyway.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

I would love to sew you a red dress, but my skills aren't so good in

that department. Once I was a member of the local Women's Sewing Club

to learn, but they kicked me out when they discovered I couldn't mend

straight. <drum rim shot>

Lenny

> > >

> > > My goal is simply the " truth " . If the FULL truth is known about

> > this whole

> > > situation all the rest (A-D and a few others) will all fall into

place.

> >

> > Hi Laurie,

> > What whole situation, where will " it " fall and for whom? Keep it

> > short, please.

> >

> > Lenny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No, no book. This is a method for organizing goals, strategies and

tactics into some planned order. If you want to get something done,

it's best to have a plan. In business, it's called developing a

mission statement and a business plan. First step is to indentify

goals: why are we here? What is the key reason(s) above all others?

After that, we look at different strategies towards reaching the

goal(s). If you want to cheat ahead, google " developing business plan " .

Lenny

> >

> > Our biggest opponent is the doctors who keep shooting mercury into

> > kids.

>

> Would it be right to say that the biggest concern is the kids, and not

> the doctors? If so, what is your goal regarding the kids?

>

> Lenny

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Putting the autism industry out of business means there are no more

people in need of autism treatments.

Debi

>

>

> >

> > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> Behalf Of

> > Debi

> > My most pressing

> > goal is to put the autism industry out of business.

>

> OK, let's back up a step. In 50 words or less, why do you want to put

> the autism industry out of business? The answer may seem obvious, but

> let's hear your express reason(s).

>

> Bear with me, this is a useful exercise. For those who are just

> reading the responses, think of your own reason, if you haven't

> already, and make a mental note.

>

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

1) I want the truth to come out. Not only the truth, but responsibility taken

(at the very

least) from the FDA, CDC, Frist, Offit, etc. I want a public statement made

about it from

each and every one of these people. Then I want compensation to heal all of

those who

were damaged by their atrocities. Not only my children, but every child who has

been

effected on this continent. Then- and I may be getting ahead of myself and the

goal here,

but I think they should somehow start working on how to make things right for

all of the

other children whom they have poisoned around the globe, before we find

ourselves in

another war over this. Because I do believe that once the truth comes out, there

are going

to be many people besides ourselves here in the U.S. that are going to want some

action.

I can fantasize all day about what I would like to do to those that injured my

children ( and

I often do), but realistically- knowing how easy these SOB's have gotten off the

hook in the

past, I would say we will be lucky to have compensation to heal our kids. And

that is my

first priority.

[Guest guest]

In this order I want to see:

1) insurance money pouring into the treatment of the already injured

(the clock is ticking)

2) state and federal funds pouring into the current education and

current and future quality of life of the already injured

3) the discontinuation of the usage of Hg in all vaccines, a

substantial change in childhood immunization schedule, and the

discontinuation of the export of the old vials to the rest of the

world

4) state and federal funds pouring into research to find a cure

5) dishonorable discharge of those responsible for this

irresponsible public policy, accompanied by public acknowledgment

and apology by executive and legislative branches (I too desire

incarceration, but this seems more realistic)

6) monetary compensation to each and every family affected (if

insurance takes care of the treatment part, then compensation for

lost income, damages, material and emotional)

7) private and public funds pouring into raising public awareness of

what autism is all about

This only sounds cool and collected. Privately, I expend f.. words

on a regular basis. And the deep, profound sorrow is just

unspeakable.

Beti

> > > > >

> > > > > My goal is simply the " truth " . If the FULL truth is known

about

> > > > this whole

> > > > > situation all the rest (A-D and a few others) will all

fall into

> > place.

> > > >

> > > > Hi Laurie,

> > > > What whole situation, where will " it " fall and for whom?

Keep it

> > > > short, please.

> > > >

> > > > Lenny

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<<<<What is the goal in all this business? Why are we all here, really?

I put the question to everyone here (and beyond) in our situation:

what is your goal for this " movement " ? It would be interesting to see

how many of us are already on the same page.>>>>>>

My goals (in no particular order, it changes each day):

1. Insurance coverage for ALL treatments - chelation, diet/enzymes, behavioral

therapy, etc, etc, etc. Not some baloney capped insurance, we need to treat as

long as the person needs it and as much as they need.

2. Mercury out of all vaccines, I'll start with children & pregnant women, but I

don't think it belongs in any body.

3. For whoever is behind the cover up, I don't care who it is, even if its the

POTUS, I want those people to rot in jail, apologize, and their huge bank

accounts to start funding those of us parents who can't afford DAN! doctors or

ABA therapy or whatever we deem appropriate for our children.

4. Funds alloted for parents to pay for the needed treatments and therapies. I'm

one of those on the fence about suing, I'd be happy to be reimbursed what I've

put out financially and will incur financially. Yes my family has been through

he** and back, but no amount of money can fix that, at least covering what we've

put out can put us back on our feet to some extent.

5. For parents to stop fighting each other on the issues and just learn to work

together. It can be done, I've seen it done.

<<<<<<<<Who do you think are the opponents to be stopped / conquered

Who / what others? >>>>>>>>>>

Pharma, Public health and the dirty politicians are the main problem that I see,

IMO. The pharma pumps in the $$$$$ and everyone keeps their mouths shut.

[Guest guest]

>

> for Lenny-

> Euripides, Imenedes

> Sorry, it's old, but i couldn't resist. Maurine

>

Come on, Maurine,

You have to tell the whole joke. First a little background for those

who were educated in public schools. Euripides and Eumenedes are

ancient Greek dramatists circa 400 BC. The joke are bad puns.

Man walks into Greek tailoring shop, puts a pair of pants on the

counter. Examining them, the tailor finds a big tear in the fabric.

Tailor: " Euripides? " (you rip these?)

Customer: " Yes. Eumenides? " (you mend these?)

ok, you can stop holding your sides now.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

We'd have to bother with competency hearings which they would all fail

so, I say let's just chelate them all and save the courts some time.

>

>

>

> > We should also start abducting the Neurodiverse and curing them

so

> > they'll all shut up.

>

> But only if they want to be abducted and cured, right?

>