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In a message dated 3/27/2006 9:28:11 PM Central Standard Time, robbiev911@... writes:

I actually feel sorry these things were not already taken care of prior to scope as they could have been.Scope can be a great tool, but these issues could have been treated earlier.

What kind of condescending crap is this? Do you really think that other biomed interventions weren't tried before resorting to an invasive procedure that requires starving your child, giving them horrible stuff to drink, and don't forget, those wonderful enemas! Not to mention the cost factor, airfare, hotel, the out-of-network insurance fees...

Do you have some magical biomed treatment for liquid poop, bloating, pain, incontinence, etc...that the rest of us haven't heard of? If so, please share, if not, keep your self-righteous, pitying comments to yourself.

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I went with 2 other moms and their kids to have scopes done. One kid had

H-pylori, gastric ulcers and pre-cancerous esophageal reflux issues. The

next kid had colitis and years worth of pinworms living in the impacted

chunk of stool in his gut. The third kid had both upper and lower problems

and tons of gut damage. All of these things were treatable and the kids are

all doing better since then. There is no viable treatment for live measles

virus yet so we don't worry about it. We deal with what we can.

results from a scoping?

are there any testimonials about important info learned from a

scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has

any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there

any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please

help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's

stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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Marcy,

You may be interested in the group

chelating kids 2. You may get some

testimonies there.

Pamela

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what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. "

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasota

Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:39

PM

EOHarm

Subject: results from a

scoping?

are there any testimonials about important info learned from a

scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an

archives? I'm not sure if EOH has

any place to go read on what good is having a

scope done. Are there

any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment?

Please

help me,we

have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's

stories, only what the Dr's have said at

conferences. Marcy

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Well, I just learned from Kenny's scope results last month that he is very close to developing Barrett's Esophagus, which is a cancerous condition caused by reflux. He's been on reflux meds for over 10 years, and we thought they were doing the trick.

Had he not been scoped, we would not have known.

Now I have an opportunity to treat him and prevent this from becoming VERY serious. Dr. Krigsman is going to scope him again in July to see if there is any improvement from the treatment he is now on.

s

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasotaSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:39 PMEOHarm Subject: results from a scoping?

are there any testimonials about important info learned from a scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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- In EOHarm , " Holly Bortfeld " <maximom@...> wrote:

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> I went with 2 other moms and their kids to have scopes done. One

kid had

> H-pylori

,Pfieffer treats with suppliments/ test for pylori can be done thru

urine.

gastric ulcers anti inflamitories used.

> next kid had colitis

again anti inflamatories used

and years worth of pinworms detectable on a stool sample, corrected

with parasite treatment.

Thanks for the info. It is so nice we can all share for the benefit

of the children,

Dot

living in the impacted not impacted with parasite treatment

> chunk of stool in his gut. The third kid had both upper and lower

problems

> and tons of gut damage. All of these things were treatable and the

kids are

> all doing better since then. There is no viable treatment for live

measles

> virus yet so we don't worry about it. We deal with what we can.

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> results from a scoping?

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> are there any testimonials about important info learned from a

> scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH

has

> any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are

there

> any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment?

Please

> help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's

> stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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You are being very shortsighted about the benefits of the procedure. The

pinworm were living in the chunk, not coming out in stool. And the kid with

H-pylori had a buttload of other problems. If you don't want to scope your

kid, then don't. personally I believe it's a great diagnostic tool. It

certainly was worth it for my kid.

I am starting to think you joined this group just to pick at everyone. If

that's the case, let me know and I will just set you to autodelete now

before it gets ugly.

results from a scoping?

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> are there any testimonials about important info learned from a

> scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH

has

> any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are

there

> any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment?

Please

> help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's

> stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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-Sorry if you are disturbed by bio-medical interventions.

I actually feel sorry these things were not already taken care of

prior to scope as they could have been.Scope can be a great tool, but

these issues could have been treated earlier.Unfortunate for the

kids.They are paying the price for everything that has been done to

them.Do you think it is wrong of me to disclose bio-med interventions

that are non invasive? I always thought that the list was a tool for

sharing bio-med info., political info,and helping the kids.

if this is not what it is about please let me know.

Again, sorry to bother you with bio-med,

Wishing you the best,

Dot-

- In EOHarm , " Holly Bortfeld " <maximom@...> wrote:

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> You are being very shortsighted about the benefits of the

procedure. The

> pinworm were living in the chunk, not coming out in stool. And the

kid with

> H-pylori had a buttload of other problems. If you don't want to

scope your

> kid, then don't. personally I believe it's a great diagnostic

tool. It

> certainly was worth it for my kid.

>

> I am starting to think you joined this group just to pick at

everyone. If

> that's the case, let me know and I will just set you to autodelete

now

> before it gets ugly.

>

> results from a scoping?

> >

> > are there any testimonials about important info learned from a

> > scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if

EOH

> has

> > any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are

> there

> > any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment?

> Please

> > help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any

people's

> > stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Ok, so you are here just to be a jerk. I got it.

results from a scoping?

> >

> > are there any testimonials about important info learned from a

> > scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if

EOH

> has

> > any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are

> there

> > any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment?

> Please

> > help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any

people's

> > stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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--Ther are many bio-med interventions. what fits one doesn't fit all.

we are supposed to sharing for the benefit for the kids. If you can't

have an open mind and wish to be nasty the list is NOT the

appropriate place.I do not understand why you are adverse to perents

having all info. that could benefit thier child. Are you a

pediatrician?

- In EOHarm , " Holly Bortfeld " <maximom@...> wrote:

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> Ok, so you are here just to be a jerk. I got it.

>

> results from a scoping?

> > >

> > > are there any testimonials about important info learned from a

> > > scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if

> EOH

> > has

> > > any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are

> > there

> > > any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment?

> > Please

> > > help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any

> people's

> > > stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I don't think the purpose of this list is for sharing biomedical information. You might want to join ABMD for that. There is another good group called autism-immune which has some good discussions as well.

Here's what Lenny put in the group's description ...

This is Evidence of Harm, the discussion list. The purpose is to track and discuss the progress of events as told by Kirby in his book of the same name. Loosely, we will try to pick up on events since the end of the book's time line November of 2004. Of keen interest to participants are the issues of government public health negligence and corruption and the various political efforts by parents to end the spectrum of epidemics that is being revealed as mercury poisoning, especially autism. It will also track the progress of the book itself and relevant goings-on by it's author. This list is sponsored by the Schafer Autism Report as a community service and is independent of Kirby or the book publisher, or any commercial interests. The focus of this group is not vaccines, although it is a core element in these events. The focus is on the good guys, the bad guys, what they're up to, who've they hurt, who they saved and what they might do next. Vaccines don't hurt people, to borrow a slogan, people hurt people. Red herring anti-vaccine campaigners are not warmly welcomed. There is only one rule of behavior: be polite, not rude to your neighbors. Everyone can post anything they want to this list as long as they are not rude in doing so. Crossposting, unauthorized action alerts, and off-topic political announcements are rude and therefore prohibited.

s

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of robbiev911Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:38 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: results from a scoping?

--Ther are many bio-med interventions. what fits one doesn't fit all. we are supposed to sharing for the benefit for the kids. If you can't have an open mind and wish to be nasty the list is NOT the appropriate place.I do not understand why you are adverse to perents having all info. that could benefit thier child. Are you a pediatrician?- In EOHarm , "Holly Bortfeld" <maximom@...> wrote:>> Ok, so you are here just to be a jerk. I got it. > > results from a scoping?> > > > > > are there any testimonials about important info learned from a > > > scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if > EOH > > has > > > any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are > > there > > > any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? > > Please > > > help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any > people's > > > stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Hi Marcy,

Here's a list I found doing a search on "autism scope". They say they are part of Generation Rescue. This would be a better list than the EOHarm for getting into ins and outs of specific treatments -- not that you can't discuss them here.

Lenny

asd_solutions 674 Members, Archives: Membership required

AUTISM/ADHD IS TREATABLE This group is open to anyone using bio-medical solutions to help autistic children including friends familiy and practitioners. Topics discussed will include dietary intervention, (GFCF diet, SCD and LOD diets) mB12 spray/shots,LDN,Actos,supplementation,DAN Intervention. The Jill Protocol,Autism and Genetics,Digestion and GI Scope,Anti-virals,Chelation,DMPS-td,DMSA,ALA, and 1.3/1.5+ Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment(HBOT). Various therapy options are acceptable ...(more)

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasotaSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 6:39 PMEOHarm Subject: results from a scoping?

are there any testimonials about important info learned from a scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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Thank you for posting the group's purpose. I'm relatively new to the list and it was good to read it. I've saved and highlighted an excerpt below because there are a few posters with poor impulse control that need the reminder. I'm shocked by the name calling, nitpicking, and outright bullying that has been going on. Rude behavior like that causes people to unsubscribe or discourages them from posting because they don't want to be treated like that. persistentC <persistentC@...> wrote: There is only

one rule of behavior: be polite, not rude to your neighbors. Everyone can post anything they want to this list as long as they are not rude in doing so.

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Cheri, thanks for your email to me. Let me clarify, Diane is

not a mother, at least not the mother of a child with autism. She's

one of the main lobbyists for wanting kids to get thimerosal in

vaccines. She even created a powerpoint presentation telling other

lobbyists how to twist the issue of whether or not thimerosal is a

safe product so that as many kids can get it as possible. After

reading her powerpoint presentation that explained they are to keep

the message as far from science as possible and used the term " Kiss "

when talking to representatives, she then referenced this board as a

place to learn what those who are concerned with the growing body of

evidence showing the danger of ethylmercury. Again, it wasn't to learn

more about the dangers, discuss the best way to protect kids, it was

so the lobbyists and pro-poisoning of kids can try to twist our

concerns so they can make a buck.

You didn't make me feel that you were talking about me, though it

would have been okay if you were. As I emailed Lenny, I was sorry I

posted it, I just didn't have Ms. Diane's direct email to share my

thoughts and invitation on a more personal level. I knew it wasn't

appropriate for me and wanted to apologize to my fellow posters.

Debi

>

> Thank you for posting the group's purpose. I'm relatively

new to the list and it was good to read it. I've saved and

highlighted an excerpt below because there are a few posters with

poor impulse control that need the reminder. I'm shocked by the name

calling, nitpicking, and outright bullying that has been going on.

Rude behavior like that causes people to unsubscribe or discourages

them from posting because they don't want to be treated like that.

>

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I was wondering if your son showed any symptoms that prompted you to have him scoped again? I ask this because my son who is 16 has been scoped three times , the first time they found h-pylori (spl) and what they called rings of scarring on his esophagus they treated the h-pylori and he's been on nexium for at least eight years. One of the other times he was scoped they found small bumps at the bottom of the esophagus and they weren't quite sure what they were but that they sometimes saw them in kids with persistent viral infections. I wanted them to check for live measles virus but they wouldn't. My son also has down syndrome and so in the past it's always been a chore to get a diagnosis other then he has down syndrome even though he was diagnosed over 10 years ago with autism. We recently started seeing a DAN doctor and we think he's wonderful, my son, Albert or Albie as we love to call him is doing much better. Good luck with your

son I' m so glad you caught the problem early. persistentC <persistentC@...> wrote: Well, I just learned from Kenny's scope results last month that he is very close to developing Barrett's Esophagus, which is a cancerous condition caused by reflux. He's been on reflux meds for over 10 years, and we thought they were doing the trick. Had he not been scoped, we would not

have known. Now I have an opportunity to treat him and prevent this from becoming VERY serious. Dr. Krigsman is going to scope him again in July to see if there is any improvement from the treatment he is now on. s persistentC@... President and Executive Director The Mariposa School for Children with Autism 203 Gregson Drive Cary, NC 27511 919-461-0600 www.MariposaSchool.org "Most of the important things in all the world have been accomplished by people who kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Dale Carnegie From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasotaSent:

Monday, March 27, 2006 9:39 PMEOHarm Subject: results from a scoping? are there any testimonials about important info learned from a scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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Kenny had been scoped 4 times previously by doctors who didn't know what they were looking for.

The reasons he was scoped:

1) Failure to thrive (no weight gain for 2 years, he was at 62.5 lbs and holding even though he was 12 years old)

2) Obvious abdominal pain, sometimes just lying down on the floor and crying, or rubbing on his tummy

3) Explosive diarrhea several times a day

4) History of reflux

5) Lab results from tests that Dr. Krigsman had ordered

s

persistentC@...

President and Executive Director

The Mariposa School

for Children with Autism

203 Gregson Drive

Cary, NC 27511

919-461-0600

www.MariposaSchool.org

"Most of the important things in all the world have been accomplished by people who kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Dale Carnegie

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of FerraroSent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:04 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: results from a scoping?

I was wondering if your son showed any symptoms that prompted you to have him scoped again? I ask this because my son who is 16 has been scoped three times , the first time they found h-pylori (spl) and what they called rings of scarring on his esophagus they treated the h-pylori and he's been on nexium for at least eight years. One of the other times he was scoped they found small bumps at the bottom of the esophagus and they weren't quite sure what they were but that they sometimes saw them in kids with persistent viral infections. I wanted them to check for live measles virus but they wouldn't. My son also has down syndrome and so in the past it's always been a chore to get a diagnosis other then he has down syndrome even though he was diagnosed over 10 years ago with autism. We recently started seeing a DAN doctor and we think he's wonderful, my son, Albert or Albie as we love to call him is doing much better. Good luck with your son I' m so glad you caught the problem early. persistentC <persistentC@...> wrote:

Well, I just learned from Kenny's scope results last month that he is very close to developing Barrett's Esophagus, which is a cancerous condition caused by reflux. He's been on reflux meds for over 10 years, and we thought they were doing the trick.

Had he not been scoped, we would not have known.

Now I have an opportunity to treat him and prevent this from becoming VERY serious. Dr. Krigsman is going to scope him again in July to see if there is any improvement from the treatment he is now on.

s

persistentC@...

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The Mariposa School

for Children with Autism

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Cary, NC 27511

919-461-0600

www.MariposaSchool.org

"Most of the important things in all the world have been accomplished by people who kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Dale Carnegie

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasotaSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:39 PMEOHarm Subject: results from a scoping?

are there any testimonials about important info learned from a scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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Did THEY OBTAIN a biopsy of the small bowel and examine it for the presence of measles virus (Wakefield's synbrome)? If not, sue for malpractice.<

From: "persistentC" <persistentC@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: RE: results from a scoping?Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:06:54 -0500

Kenny had been scoped 4 times previously by doctors who didn't know what they were looking for.

The reasons he was scoped:

1) Failure to thrive (no weight gain for 2 years, he was at 62.5 lbs and holding even though he was 12 years old)

2) Obvious abdominal pain, sometimes just lying down on the floor and crying, or rubbing on his tummy

3) Explosive diarrhea several times a day

4) History of reflux

5) Lab results from tests that Dr. Krigsman had ordered

s

persistentC@...

President and Executive Director

The Mariposa School

for Children with Autism

203 Gregson Drive

Cary, NC 27511

919-461-0600

www.MariposaSchool.org

"Most of the important things in all the world have been accomplished by people who kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Dale Carnegie

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of FerraroSent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:04 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: results from a scoping?

I was wondering if your son showed any symptoms that prompted you to have him scoped again? I ask this because my son who is 16 has been scoped three times , the first time they found h-pylori (spl) and what they called rings of scarring on his esophagus they treated the h-pylori and he's been on nexium for at least eight years. One of the other times he was scoped they found small bumps at the bottom of the esophagus and they weren't quite sure what they were but that they sometimes saw them in kids with persistent viral infections. I wanted them to check for live measles virus but they wouldn't. My son also has down syndrome and so in the past it's always been a chore to get a diagnosis other then he has down syndrome even though he was diagnosed over 10 years ago with autism. We recently started seeing a DAN doctor and we think he's wonderful, my son, Albert or Albie as we love to call him is doing much better. Good luck with your son I' m so glad you caught the problem early. persistentC <persistentC@...> wrote:

Well, I just learned from Kenny's scope results last month that he is very close to developing Barrett's Esophagus, which is a cancerous condition caused by reflux. He's been on reflux meds for over 10 years, and we thought they were doing the trick.

Had he not been scoped, we would not have known.

Now I have an opportunity to treat him and prevent this from becoming VERY serious. Dr. Krigsman is going to scope him again in July to see if there is any improvement from the treatment he is now on.

s

persistentC@...

President and Executive Director

The Mariposa School

for Children with Autism

203 Gregson Drive

Cary, NC 27511

919-461-0600

www.MariposaSchool.org

"Most of the important things in all the world have been accomplished by people who kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Dale Carnegie

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasotaSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:39 PMEOHarm Subject: results from a scoping?

are there any testimonials about important info learned from a scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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Of course they did.

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Herman FudenbergSent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:36 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: results from a scoping?

Did THEY OBTAIN a biopsy of the small bowel and examine it for the presence of measles virus (Wakefield's synbrome)? If not, sue for malpractice.<

From: "persistentC" <persistentC@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: RE: results from a scoping?Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:06:54 -0500

Kenny had been scoped 4 times previously by doctors who didn't know what they were looking for.

The reasons he was scoped:

1) Failure to thrive (no weight gain for 2 years, he was at 62.5 lbs and holding even though he was 12 years old)

2) Obvious abdominal pain, sometimes just lying down on the floor and crying, or rubbing on his tummy

3) Explosive diarrhea several times a day

4) History of reflux

5) Lab results from tests that Dr. Krigsman had ordered

s

persistentC@...

President and Executive Director

The Mariposa School

for Children with Autism

203 Gregson Drive

Cary, NC 27511

919-461-0600

www.MariposaSchool.org

"Most of the important things in all the world have been accomplished by people who kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all." Dale Carnegie

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of FerraroSent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:04 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: results from a scoping?

I was wondering if your son showed any symptoms that prompted you to have him scoped again? I ask this because my son who is 16 has been scoped three times , the first time they found h-pylori (spl) and what they called rings of scarring on his esophagus they treated the h-pylori and he's been on nexium for at least eight years. One of the other times he was scoped they found small bumps at the bottom of the esophagus and they weren't quite sure what they were but that they sometimes saw them in kids with persistent viral infections. I wanted them to check for live measles virus but they wouldn't. My son also has down syndrome and so in the past it's always been a chore to get a diagnosis other then he has down syndrome even though he was diagnosed over 10 years ago with autism. We recently started seeing a DAN doctor and we think he's wonderful, my son, Albert or Albie as we love to call him is doing much better. Good luck with your son I' m so glad you caught the problem early. persistentC <persistentC@...> wrote:

Well, I just learned from Kenny's scope results last month that he is very close to developing Barrett's Esophagus, which is a cancerous condition caused by reflux. He's been on reflux meds for over 10 years, and we thought they were doing the trick.

Had he not been scoped, we would not have known.

Now I have an opportunity to treat him and prevent this from becoming VERY serious. Dr. Krigsman is going to scope him again in July to see if there is any improvement from the treatment he is now on.

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasotaSent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:39 PMEOHarm Subject: results from a scoping?

are there any testimonials about important info learned from a scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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Hello, I wonder if doing the Intestimal Permeability test from Great Smokies Lab would serve the same purpose as scoping - and much less intrusive - it is urine test though it does involve taking a special drink and then collecting urine for the following six hours. Pamela Leigh <pamelaleigh@...> wrote: Marcy, You may be interested in the group chelating kids 2. You may get some testimonies there. Pamela "Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared." Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of siberiasota Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 9:39 PM EOHarm Subject: results from a scoping? are there any testimonials about important info learned from a scoping? Is there an e-group w/ an archives? I'm not sure if EOH has any place to go read on what good is having a scope done. Are there any real people who have had measles virus killed w/ treatment? Please help me,we have been thinking on this for so long w/o any people's stories, only what the Dr's have said at conferences. Marcy

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