Another older son with autism

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He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

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Where i n Il. I'll try to get the EPA to analyze the soil

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

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From: "mmoyer" <mmoyer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "mmoyer" <mmoyer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "mmoyer" <mmoyer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

I don't know but it was December and I think I caught something. I do wonder what it was. I know it wasn't measles because I had a titre done after he was born which showed I had never had measles.

Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "Herman Fudenberg" <nitrf@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: RE: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "mmoyer" <mmoyer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "Herman Fudenberg" <nitrf@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: RE: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "mmoyer" <mmoyer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

FOR SOME ONE ELSE

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "Herman Fudenberg" <nitrf@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: RE: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "mmoyer" <mmoyer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

Is it possible you were infected with the Rubella virus?

The Rubella virus was the only known cause of autism before. If a

mother got Rubella during the pregnancy, then it could cause autism in

the child.

Colleen

>

> I don't know but it was December and I think I caught something. I

do wonder what it was. I know it wasn't measles because I had a titre

done after he was born which showed I had never had measles.

> Another older son with autism

> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

>

>

> He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He

has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not

blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and

was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I

had it around the time of his conception.

>

> I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement

plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes

coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour

mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which

prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those

who lived nearby.

>

> I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially

with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with

toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

>

> We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you

the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

> Martha from Texas

>

> PS: I used to live in Illinois

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

With all the environmental mercury you and your family were exposed

to plus unknown medicinal sources, I would have your son tested,

regardless of age. If he is in need of biomedical treatment it will

be to his benefit. I don't recall how he functions or if he has

behavioral/gut/immune issues, but the mercury causes the viral

issue, not the other way around.

> >

> > I don't know but it was December and I think I caught

something. I

> do wonder what it was. I know it wasn't measles because I had a

titre

> done after he was born which showed I had never had measles.

> > Another older son with autism

> > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

> >

> >

> > He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He

> has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not

> blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got

and

> was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition

because I

> had it around the time of his conception.

> >

> > I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a

cement

> plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that

sometimes

> coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard,

flour

> mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which

> prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those

> who lived nearby.

> >

> > I do think genetics too may have been an influence,

especially

> with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with

> toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

> >

> > We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you

> the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got

his.

> > Martha from Texas

> >

> > PS: I used to live in Illinois

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Rubella is German measles which I had not ever had then. Am immunized now.

Another older son with autism> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600> > > He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. Hehas always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am notblaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got andwas sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because Ihad it around the time of his conception.> > I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cementplant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimescoated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flourmill, and the glass company held sway over the community, whichprided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for thosewho lived nearby.> > I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especiallywith his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems withtoileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.> > We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell youthe truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.> Martha from Texas> > PS: I used to live in Illinois> > >

[Guest guest]

HI Col,

I have a distant cousin who is in his early 40's who is severely

autistic (and deaf). His mother had rubella when she was pregnant

with him.

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> >

> > I don't know but it was December and I think I caught

something. I

> do wonder what it was. I know it wasn't measles because I had a

titre

> done after he was born which showed I had never had measles.

> > Another older son with autism

> > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

> >

> >

> > He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He

> has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not

> blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got

and

> was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition

because I

> had it around the time of his conception.

> >

> > I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a

cement

> plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that

sometimes

> coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard,

flour

> mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which

> prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those

> who lived nearby.

> >

> > I do think genetics too may have been an influence,

especially

> with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with

> toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

> >

> > We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you

> the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got

his.

> > Martha from Texas

> >

> > PS: I used to live in Illinois

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

for analyzing gal

How about the rubella vaccine?

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "analyzinggal" <mcstrom@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Another older son with autismDate: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:06:56 -0000Is it possible you were infected with the Rubella virus? The Rubella virus was the only known cause of autism before. If amother got Rubella during the pregnancy, then it could cause autism inthe child.Colleen>> I don't know but it was December and I think I caught something. Ido wonder what it was. I know it wasn't measles because I had a titredone after he was born which showed I had never had measles.> Another older son with autism> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600> > > He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. Hehas always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am notblaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got andwas sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because Ihad it around the time of his conception.> > I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cementplant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimescoated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flourmill, and the glass company held sway over the community, whichprided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for thosewho lived nearby.> > I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especiallywith his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems withtoileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.> > We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell youthe truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.> Martha from Texas> > PS: I used to live in Illinois> > >

[Guest guest]

No..No horseback rider.

Another older son with autism> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600> > > He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. Hehas always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am notblaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got andwas sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because Ihad it around the time of his conception.> > I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cementplant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimescoated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flourmill, and the glass company held sway over the community, whichprided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for thosewho lived nearby.> > I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especiallywith his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems withtoileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.> > We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell youthe truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.> Martha from Texas> > PS: I used to live in Illinois> > >

[Guest guest]

for M Moyer

Sincerely,

From: "Herman Fudenberg" <nitrf@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: RE: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500ffor M. Moyer

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

for m mayer

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "Herman Fudenberg" <nitrf@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: RE: Another older son with autismDate: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:36:45 -0500

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "Herman Fudenberg" <nitrf@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: RE: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

From: "mmoyer" <mmoyer@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:07:37 -0600

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois

[Guest guest]

As I said...no one ever determined what virus it was.

RE: Another older son with autism

for M Moyer

Sincerely,

From: "Herman Fudenberg" <nitrf@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: RE: Another older son with autismDate: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 12:42:15 -0500ffor M. Moyer

Which virus was it? cytomeglovirus? HHV5?

Borna virus (are you a horse back rider?)

Sincerely,

H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., D.D.G., I.O.M.

226 Edgewater Road

Inman, SC 29349

864-592-8076

nitrf@hotmailcom

He is one who never regressed. He just developed slowly. He has always had autism from the start.Today he is age 32. I am not blaming vaccines on what happened to him. I think the virus I got and was sick with and had a high fever with caused his condition because I had it around the time of his conception.

I do think pollution had a lot to do with it. We had a cement plant near us that spewed out its particulates and ash that sometimes coated our car like snow even in the summertime. The boxboard, flour mill, and the glass company held sway over the community, which prided itself more on jobs than a safe living environment for those who lived nearby.

I do think genetics too may have been an influence, especially with his paralyzed bowels that he has now and the problems with toileting, which started right after he weaned from the breast.

We never considered vaccines as being harmful and to tell you the truth I can't remember anything about them except my son got his.

Martha from Texas

PS: I used to live in Illinois