Re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding rude outburst: Time Out.,

[Guest guest]

Dear fellow list members,

> I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue privately.

>

> Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our grief and the

> stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised skins

> and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to treat

> one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no different

> than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not hand

> out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the internet.

>

> Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se consider

> religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic " in this respect.

> What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

>

> I ask that list members take some care and that further discussion

> around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light when

> there is too much heat.

>

> Lenny Schafer

> List Host, Den Mother

Hey, cute dress Lenny

but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what I

sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of others:

All God's critters got a place in the choir

Some sing low, some sing higher

Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

And some just clap their hands, or paws

Or anything they got.

When do I get my merit badge?

[Guest guest]

I'm feeling a little light...and needed

it this afternoon...

My poor boy has, for the past 6 hours,

been continuously screaming and/or crying, galloping, slapping his ears

and pinching his cheeks...been to the pediatrician (who is wonderful with

him)...no fever, appetite fine (he can eat/scream/cry all at the same time),

ears clear, nose clear, throat clear, chest clear, no overt medical issue...but

we're going to try a z-pak in case it's a sinus infection...

It's strange...when he came to live

with me a year ago he'd do this 4 hours a day three or four days every

other week...hasn't had more than four hours CUMULATIVELY of these types

of behaviors in six months...somehow this is hitting me harder than day

after day of it used to...maybe because I thought we were past it...

Everyone please say a prayer or send

us a positive thought that whatever is bothering him resolves quickly!

I vote for your merit badge...but I

disagree...a yellow and blue dress looks lovely on Lenny

Alice

K Mueller <tomato@...>

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re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding

rude outburst: Time Out.,

Dear fellow list members,

> I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue privately.

>

> Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our grief

and the

> stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised skins

> and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to treat

> one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no different

> than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not hand

> out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the internet.

>

> Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se consider

> religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic " in this

respect.

> What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

>

> I ask that list members take some care and that further discussion

> around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light when

> there is too much heat.

>

> Lenny Schafer

> List Host, Den Mother

Hey, cute dress Lenny

but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what I

sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of others:

All God's critters got a place in the choir

Some sing low, some sing higher

Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

And some just clap their hands, or paws

Or anything they got.

When do I get my merit badge?

[Guest guest]

Alice; I had the same type of trouble shortly before starting

chelation. Extra Vitamin C helped stop it for good. Good Luck!

>

> I'm feeling a little light...and needed it this afternoon...

>

> My poor boy has, for the past 6 hours, been continuously screaming

and/or

> crying, galloping, slapping his ears and pinching his cheeks...been

to the

> pediatrician (who is wonderful with him)...no fever, appetite fine

(he can

> eat/scream/cry all at the same time), ears clear, nose clear,

throat

> clear, chest clear, no overt medical issue...but we're going to try

a

> z-pak in case it's a sinus infection...

>

> It's strange...when he came to live with me a year ago he'd do this

4

> hours a day three or four days every other week...hasn't had more

than

> four hours CUMULATIVELY of these types of behaviors in six

> months...somehow this is hitting me harder than day after day of it

used

> to...maybe because I thought we were past it...

>

> Everyone please say a prayer or send us a positive thought that

whatever

> is bothering him resolves quickly!

>

> I vote for your merit badge...but I disagree...a yellow and blue

dress

> looks lovely on Lenny

>

> Alice

>

>

>

> K Mueller <tomato@...>

> Sent by: EOHarm

> 03/08/2006 04:22 PM

> Please respond to

> EOHarm

>

>

> To

> EOHarm

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>

> Subject

> re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding rude outburst: Time Out.,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear fellow list members,

> > I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue

privately.

> >

> > Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our grief and

the

> > stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised

skins

> > and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to

treat

> > one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no

different

> > than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not

hand

> > out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the

internet.

> >

> > Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se consider

> > religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic " in this

respect.

> > What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

> >

> > I ask that list members take some care and that further discussion

> > around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light

when

> > there is too much heat.

> >

> > Lenny Schafer

> > List Host, Den Mother

>

> Hey, cute dress Lenny

> but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

>

> We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what

I

> sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of

others:

>

> All God's critters got a place in the choir

> Some sing low, some sing higher

> Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

> And some just clap their hands, or paws

> Or anything they got.

>

> When do I get my merit badge?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I prayed for you and your boy Alice. I hope this resolves quickly.

Donna

>

> I'm feeling a little light...and needed it this afternoon...

>

> My poor boy has, for the past 6 hours, been continuously screaming

and/or

> crying, galloping, slapping his ears and pinching his cheeks...been

to the

> pediatrician (who is wonderful with him)...no fever, appetite fine

(he can

> eat/scream/cry all at the same time), ears clear, nose clear,

throat

> clear, chest clear, no overt medical issue...but we're going to try

a

> z-pak in case it's a sinus infection...

>

> It's strange...when he came to live with me a year ago he'd do this

4

> hours a day three or four days every other week...hasn't had more

than

> four hours CUMULATIVELY of these types of behaviors in six

> months...somehow this is hitting me harder than day after day of it

used

> to...maybe because I thought we were past it...

>

> Everyone please say a prayer or send us a positive thought that

whatever

> is bothering him resolves quickly!

>

> I vote for your merit badge...but I disagree...a yellow and blue

dress

> looks lovely on Lenny

>

> Alice

>

>

>

> K Mueller <tomato@...>

> Sent by: EOHarm

> 03/08/2006 04:22 PM

> Please respond to

> EOHarm

>

>

> To

> EOHarm

> cc

>

> Subject

> re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding rude outburst: Time Out.,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear fellow list members,

> > I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue

privately.

> >

> > Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our grief and

the

> > stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised

skins

> > and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to

treat

> > one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no

different

> > than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not

hand

> > out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the

internet.

> >

> > Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se consider

> > religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic " in this

respect.

> > What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

> >

> > I ask that list members take some care and that further discussion

> > around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light

when

> > there is too much heat.

> >

> > Lenny Schafer

> > List Host, Den Mother

>

> Hey, cute dress Lenny

> but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

>

> We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what

I

> sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of

others:

>

> All God's critters got a place in the choir

> Some sing low, some sing higher

> Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

> And some just clap their hands, or paws

> Or anything they got.

>

> When do I get my merit badge?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

working already (finally thought to

play the music tape I used to play when he got like this)...still bouncing

and galloping a bit but everything else has calmed down...

thanks donna!

" ddztmz " <ddztmz@...>

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03/08/2006 05:07 PM

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EOHarm

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Re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding

rude outburst: Time Out.,

I prayed for you and your boy Alice. I hope this resolves

quickly.

Donna

>

> I'm feeling a little light...and needed it this afternoon...

>

> My poor boy has, for the past 6 hours, been continuously screaming

and/or

> crying, galloping, slapping his ears and pinching his cheeks...been

to the

> pediatrician (who is wonderful with him)...no fever, appetite fine

(he can

> eat/scream/cry all at the same time), ears clear, nose clear,

throat

> clear, chest clear, no overt medical issue...but we're going to try

a

> z-pak in case it's a sinus infection...

>

> It's strange...when he came to live with me a year ago he'd do this

4

> hours a day three or four days every other week...hasn't had more

than

> four hours CUMULATIVELY of these types of behaviors in six

> months...somehow this is hitting me harder than day after day of it

used

> to...maybe because I thought we were past it...

>

> Everyone please say a prayer or send us a positive thought that

whatever

> is bothering him resolves quickly!

>

> I vote for your merit badge...but I disagree...a yellow and blue

dress

> looks lovely on Lenny

>

> Alice

>

>

>

> K Mueller <tomato@...>

> Sent by: EOHarm

> 03/08/2006 04:22 PM

> Please respond to

> EOHarm

>

>

> To

> EOHarm

> cc

>

> Subject

> re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding rude outburst: Time Out.,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear fellow list members,

> > I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue

privately.

> >

> > Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our

grief and

the

> > stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised

skins

> > and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to

treat

> > one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no

different

> > than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not

hand

> > out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the

internet.

> >

> > Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se

consider

> > religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic "

in this

respect.

> > What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

> >

> > I ask that list members take some care and that further discussion

> > around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light

when

> > there is too much heat.

> >

> > Lenny Schafer

> > List Host, Den Mother

>

> Hey, cute dress Lenny

> but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

>

> We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what

I

> sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of

others:

>

> All God's critters got a place in the choir

> Some sing low, some sing higher

> Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

> And some just clap their hands, or paws

> Or anything they got.

>

> When do I get my merit badge?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks !

" Best Jr "

<bettwice33@...>

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03/08/2006 05:05 PM

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EOHarm

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Re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding

rude outburst: Time Out.,

Alice; I had the same type of trouble shortly

before starting

chelation. Extra Vitamin C helped stop it for good. Good Luck!

>

> I'm feeling a little light...and needed it this afternoon...

>

> My poor boy has, for the past 6 hours, been continuously screaming

and/or

> crying, galloping, slapping his ears and pinching his cheeks...been

to the

> pediatrician (who is wonderful with him)...no fever, appetite fine

(he can

> eat/scream/cry all at the same time), ears clear, nose clear,

throat

> clear, chest clear, no overt medical issue...but we're going to try

a

> z-pak in case it's a sinus infection...

>

> It's strange...when he came to live with me a year ago he'd do this

4

> hours a day three or four days every other week...hasn't had more

than

> four hours CUMULATIVELY of these types of behaviors in six

> months...somehow this is hitting me harder than day after day of it

used

> to...maybe because I thought we were past it...

>

> Everyone please say a prayer or send us a positive thought that

whatever

> is bothering him resolves quickly!

>

> I vote for your merit badge...but I disagree...a yellow and blue

dress

> looks lovely on Lenny

>

> Alice

>

>

>

> K Mueller <tomato@...>

> Sent by: EOHarm

> 03/08/2006 04:22 PM

> Please respond to

> EOHarm

>

>

> To

> EOHarm

> cc

>

> Subject

> re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding rude outburst: Time Out.,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear fellow list members,

> > I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue

privately.

> >

> > Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our

grief and

the

> > stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised

skins

> > and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to

treat

> > one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no

different

> > than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not

hand

> > out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the

internet.

> >

> > Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se

consider

> > religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic "

in this

respect.

> > What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

> >

> > I ask that list members take some care and that further discussion

> > around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light

when

> > there is too much heat.

> >

> > Lenny Schafer

> > List Host, Den Mother

>

> Hey, cute dress Lenny

> but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

>

> We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what

I

> sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of

others:

>

> All God's critters got a place in the choir

> Some sing low, some sing higher

> Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

> And some just clap their hands, or paws

> Or anything they got.

>

> When do I get my merit badge?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The Z pack will stir up what could be yeast all ready. Does he take

probiotics? Is he gf/cf? Hope he's doing better!

>

> I'm feeling a little light...and needed it this afternoon...

>

> My poor boy has, for the past 6 hours, been continuously screaming

and/or

> crying, galloping, slapping his ears and pinching his

cheeks...been to the

> pediatrician (who is wonderful with him)...no fever, appetite fine

(he can

> eat/scream/cry all at the same time), ears clear, nose clear,

throat

> clear, chest clear, no overt medical issue...but we're going to

try a

> z-pak in case it's a sinus infection...

>

> It's strange...when he came to live with me a year ago he'd do

this 4

> hours a day three or four days every other week...hasn't had more

than

> four hours CUMULATIVELY of these types of behaviors in six

> months...somehow this is hitting me harder than day after day of

it used

> to...maybe because I thought we were past it...

>

> Everyone please say a prayer or send us a positive thought that

whatever

> is bothering him resolves quickly!

>

> I vote for your merit badge...but I disagree...a yellow and blue

dress

> looks lovely on Lenny

>

> Alice

>

>

>

> K Mueller <tomato@...>

> Sent by: EOHarm

> 03/08/2006 04:22 PM

> Please respond to

> EOHarm

>

>

> To

> EOHarm

> cc

>

> Subject

> re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding rude outburst: Time Out.,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear fellow list members,

> > I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue

privately.

> >

> > Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our grief

and the

> > stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised

skins

> > and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to

treat

> > one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no

different

> > than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not

hand

> > out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the

internet.

> >

> > Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se

consider

> > religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic " in this

respect.

> > What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

> >

> > I ask that list members take some care and that further

discussion

> > around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light

when

> > there is too much heat.

> >

> > Lenny Schafer

> > List Host, Den Mother

>

> Hey, cute dress Lenny

> but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

>

> We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what

I

> sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of

others:

>

> All God's critters got a place in the choir

> Some sing low, some sing higher

> Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

> And some just clap their hands, or paws

> Or anything they got.

>

> When do I get my merit badge?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. My older son always gets similar behaviors to the ones you described

when his

yeast takes over. Giving antibiotics, especially just as a precautionary measure

when there

is no infection found, will not only stir up yeast, kill all of the good

bacteria, but will also

build up a resistence for the times when he really does need antibiotics. I am

certainly no

professional, I just learned these things the hard way and try to spread caution

from my

earlier mistakes.

Good Luck,

> >

> > I'm feeling a little light...and needed it this afternoon...

> >

> > My poor boy has, for the past 6 hours, been continuously screaming

> and/or

> > crying, galloping, slapping his ears and pinching his

> cheeks...been to the

> > pediatrician (who is wonderful with him)...no fever, appetite fine

> (he can

> > eat/scream/cry all at the same time), ears clear, nose clear,

> throat

> > clear, chest clear, no overt medical issue...but we're going to

> try a

> > z-pak in case it's a sinus infection...

> >

> > It's strange...when he came to live with me a year ago he'd do

> this 4

> > hours a day three or four days every other week...hasn't had more

> than

> > four hours CUMULATIVELY of these types of behaviors in six

> > months...somehow this is hitting me harder than day after day of

> it used

> > to...maybe because I thought we were past it...

> >

> > Everyone please say a prayer or send us a positive thought that

> whatever

> > is bothering him resolves quickly!

> >

> > I vote for your merit badge...but I disagree...a yellow and blue

> dress

> > looks lovely on Lenny

> >

> > Alice

> >

> >

> >

> > K Mueller <tomato@>

> > Sent by: EOHarm

> > 03/08/2006 04:22 PM

> > Please respond to

> > EOHarm

> >

> >

> > To

> > EOHarm

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> >

> > Subject

> > re: FROM THE HOST: Regarding rude outburst: Time Out.,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear fellow list members,

> > > I regret the recent outburst and have addressed the issue

> privately.

> > >

> > > Stuff happens. As members of families with autism, our grief

> and the

> > > stress from having injured children can make for easily bruised

> skins

> > > and souls. None the less, members of this list are expected to

> treat

> > > one another politely, if not friendly. I would have it no

> different

> > > than if you were all guests in my home. And generally, I do not

> hand

> > > out rules of behavior to my guests (nt), alas, this is the

> internet.

> > >

> > > Autism touches all aspects of our lives. I do not per se

> consider

> > > religion, or the Catholic Church to be " off topic " in this

> respect.

> > > What is off limits, no matter the topic, is rudeness.

> > >

> > > I ask that list members take some care and that further

> discussion

> > > around this matter be ended for now. There can be little light

> when

> > > there is too much heat.

> > >

> > > Lenny Schafer

> > > List Host, Den Mother

> >

> > Hey, cute dress Lenny

> > but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

> >

> > We've started a special needs ministry in our church. This is what

> I

> > sing to the kids in church to help teach them about tolerance of

> others:

> >

> > All God's critters got a place in the choir

> > Some sing low, some sing higher

> > Some sing out loud on the telephone wire

> > And some just clap their hands, or paws

> > Or anything they got.

> >

> > When do I get my merit badge?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

-snip-

> > there is too much heat.

> >

> > Lenny Schafer

> > List Host, Den Mother

>

> Hey, cute dress Lenny

> but some how yellow and blue just dont seem to be your colors.

>

Hi Kathy,

Just because I call myself a Den Mother doesn't mean I'm gay. In fact,

if anything I find it rather sad to have to remind fully grown adults

about polite behavior. And if any of you don't like the rule against

rudeness, you can. . . how can I put this delicately. . . kiss my ass.

Opps, I'm sorry, I meant to say donkey. <wink>

>

> When do I get my merit badge?

[Please! We're in polite company, remember?] Seriously, it is

wonderful that you've set up a special needs ministry. Are you a lay

minister?

Lenny