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I have an 11 year old daughter who has been using bipap since she was 4. Most of

the time doctors resist putting kids on them until it's absolutely necessary, so

if your daughter's sleep study is showing a need then you might want to really

consider it.

That being said...

Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is a completely personal

decision. You have to choose what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family. We

wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything because she's been so much healthier

since she began using it, but I also know families who are very uncomfortable

with the idea of using it. I know many families who only choose to use bipap

when their child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal decision.

My personal opinion is this: If a child is having chronic respiratory

infections, seems tired or easily tired during the day, or seems to be losing

strengths that they once had, then a bipap is probably a good idea.

If you want to talk to more parents who have chosen this route for their

children you might want to check out www.smasupport.com - There are many parents

who have made the choice for their children to use bipap there.

Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to sleep without her bipap. She's

completely comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She ASKS for it if she's

not feeling well!!!!!

Good luck with your decision

Love and Hugs

Jeni

BiPap Machine

Hi,

My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may need to use the BiPap machine

at night. However, I find that she is still very active and alert day time and

don't seem to be not having enough sleep or not sleep well as what the doctor

suggested after looking at her sleep study report. May I know is there anything

else we can do to verify or check if she really need the BiPap machine now ? We

really don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so early if possible. Can

someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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i have been using the bipap for around 6 months and i love ut it has changed my

life dramaticly i will now not even have a nap without using it

laura

Jenifer Woody <mom2armybratz@...> wrote:

I have an 11 year old daughter who has been using bipap since she was

4. Most of the time doctors resist putting kids on them until it's absolutely

necessary, so if your daughter's sleep study is showing a need then you might

want to really consider it.

That being said...

Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is a completely personal

decision. You have to choose what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family. We

wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything because she's been so much healthier

since she began using it, but I also know families who are very uncomfortable

with the idea of using it. I know many families who only choose to use bipap

when their child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal decision.

My personal opinion is this: If a child is having chronic respiratory

infections, seems tired or easily tired during the day, or seems to be losing

strengths that they once had, then a bipap is probably a good idea.

If you want to talk to more parents who have chosen this route for their

children you might want to check out www.smasupport.com - There are many parents

who have made the choice for their children to use bipap there.

Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to sleep without her bipap. She's

completely comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She ASKS for it if she's

not feeling well!!!!!

Good luck with your decision

Love and Hugs

Jeni

BiPap Machine

Hi,

My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may need to use the BiPap machine

at night. However, I find that she is still very active and alert day time and

don't seem to be not having enough sleep or not sleep well as what the doctor

suggested after looking at her sleep study report. May I know is there anything

else we can do to verify or check if she really need the BiPap machine now ? We

really don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so early if possible. Can

someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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I am using a bi-pap on most nights; I started last

September but it has taken me a long time to get used

to it. It does not take everyone as long as me to get

used to it. I definitely think it is working; I have

more energy and more mental clarity as well. I am also

experencing less anxiety than I used to, although I

don't know if that is becuase of the bi-pap. When I

went in for breathing tests in July, my counts were

the highest they have ever been in the three years

that I've been seeing this doctor. I had also gained a

pound and a half. My doctor was thrilled. So was I. So

even though there are still nights when its hard for

me to wear it, I try not to take it off. Its a very

different experience for different people. Some people

adjust to it right away. I don't adjust to anything

right away, LOL. :-) Lori G. can verify that. :-)

Dina

--- as if <xx_laura_s_xx@...> wrote:

> i have been using the bipap for around 6 months and

> i love ut it has changed my life dramaticly i will

> now not even have a nap without using it

>

> laura

>

> Jenifer Woody <mom2armybratz@...> wrote:

> I have an 11 year old daughter who has

> been using bipap since she was 4. Most of the time

> doctors resist putting kids on them until it's

> absolutely necessary, so if your daughter's sleep

> study is showing a need then you might want to

> really consider it.

> That being said...

> Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is a

> completely personal decision. You have to choose

> what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family. We

> wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything because

> she's been so much healthier since she began using

> it, but I also know families who are very

> uncomfortable with the idea of using it. I know many

> families who only choose to use bipap when their

> child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal

> decision.

> My personal opinion is this: If a child is having

> chronic respiratory infections, seems tired or

> easily tired during the day, or seems to be losing

> strengths that they once had, then a bipap is

> probably a good idea.

> If you want to talk to more parents who have chosen

> this route for their children you might want to

> check out www.smasupport.com - There are many

> parents who have made the choice for their children

> to use bipap there.

> Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to

> sleep without her bipap. She's completely

> comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She ASKS

> for it if she's not feeling well!!!!!

> Good luck with your decision

>

> Love and Hugs

> Jeni

>

>

> BiPap Machine

>

> Hi,

> My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> find that she is still very active and alert day

> time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep or

> not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> there anything else we can do to verify or check if

> she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so early

> if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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Hi Dina,

I cannot get used to it. :( I keep trying but can only tolerate it for about

45 min. to an hour.

I don't think with such little use it will give me more energy and mental

clarity and everything wonderful it is said to do huh?

Dina Abramson <dinaa68@...> wrote:

I am using a bi-pap on most nights; I started last

September but it has taken me a long time to get used

to it. It does not take everyone as long as me to get

used to it. I definitely think it is working; I have

more energy and more mental clarity as well. I am also

experencing less anxiety than I used to, although I

don't know if that is becuase of the bi-pap. When I

went in for breathing tests in July, my counts were

the highest they have ever been in the three years

that I've been seeing this doctor. I had also gained a

pound and a half. My doctor was thrilled. So was I. So

even though there are still nights when its hard for

me to wear it, I try not to take it off. Its a very

different experience for different people. Some people

adjust to it right away. I don't adjust to anything

right away, LOL. :-) Lori G. can verify that. :-)

Dina

--- as if wrote:

> i have been using the bipap for around 6 months and

> i love ut it has changed my life dramaticly i will

> now not even have a nap without using it

>

> laura

>

> Jenifer Woody wrote:

> I have an 11 year old daughter who has

> been using bipap since she was 4. Most of the time

> doctors resist putting kids on them until it's

> absolutely necessary, so if your daughter's sleep

> study is showing a need then you might want to

> really consider it.

> That being said...

> Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is a

> completely personal decision. You have to choose

> what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family. We

> wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything because

> she's been so much healthier since she began using

> it, but I also know families who are very

> uncomfortable with the idea of using it. I know many

> families who only choose to use bipap when their

> child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal

> decision.

> My personal opinion is this: If a child is having

> chronic respiratory infections, seems tired or

> easily tired during the day, or seems to be losing

> strengths that they once had, then a bipap is

> probably a good idea.

> If you want to talk to more parents who have chosen

> this route for their children you might want to

> check out www.smasupport.com - There are many

> parents who have made the choice for their children

> to use bipap there.

> Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to

> sleep without her bipap. She's completely

> comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She ASKS

> for it if she's not feeling well!!!!!

> Good luck with your decision

>

> Love and Hugs

> Jeni

>

>

> BiPap Machine

>

> Hi,

> My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> find that she is still very active and alert day

> time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep or

> not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> there anything else we can do to verify or check if

> she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so early

> if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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>

> Hi,

> My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> find that she is still very active and alert day

> time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep or

> not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> there anything else we can do to verify or check if

> she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so early

> if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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My daughter (age 3, TypeI/II) has been using it since she was one,

beginning when she had her first bout of pneumonia. She adapted pretty

quickly. I can understand why you would be hesitant to use it - we

resisted at first because it feels like you're accepting that your

child's SMA has got worse or something. BUT, having used it for 18

months, we only wish that we'd started sooner. It has helped to expand

Alice's ribcage, if only a little, and it has prevented at least two

intubations.

One point to consider is that adapting to BiPap (as with anything) may

be easier when a child is younger. Perhaps you could start by using it

only when she has a cold.

Cheers,

,

Tokyo

2007/8/15, Jenifer Woody <mom2armybratz@...>:

>

>

> I have an 11 year old daughter who has been using bipap since she was 4.

> Most of the time doctors resist putting kids on them until it's absolutely

> necessary, so if your daughter's sleep study is showing a need then you

> might want to really consider it.

> That being said...

> Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is a completely personal

> decision. You have to choose what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family.

> We wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything because she's been so much

> healthier since she began using it, but I also know families who are very

> uncomfortable with the idea of using it. I know many families who only

> choose to use bipap when their child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal

> decision.

> My personal opinion is this: If a child is having chronic respiratory

> infections, seems tired or easily tired during the day, or seems to be

> losing strengths that they once had, then a bipap is probably a good idea.

> If you want to talk to more parents who have chosen this route for their

> children you might want to check out www.smasupport.com - There are many

> parents who have made the choice for their children to use bipap there.

> Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to sleep without her bipap.

> She's completely comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She ASKS for it

> if she's not feeling well!!!!!

> Good luck with your decision

>

> Love and Hugs

> Jeni

>

>

> BiPap Machine

>

> Hi,

> My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may need to use the BiPap

> machine at night. However, I find that she is still very active and alert

> day time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep or not sleep well as

> what the doctor suggested after looking at her sleep study report. May I

> know is there anything else we can do to verify or check if she really need

> the BiPap machine now ? We really don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine

> so early if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

>

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I knew you would. :-)

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>

> BiPap Machine

> >

> > Hi,

> > My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> > need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> > find that she is still very active and alert day

> > time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep

> or

> > not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> > looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> > there anything else we can do to verify or check

> if

> > she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> > don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so

> early

> > if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

> >

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I definitely understand your frustration Joy. How many

months have you been working at it? I have been

working at it for nearly a year, and I'm still not

using it all night every night.

I think if you work your way up to even two or three

hours a night, it would be better than not using it

all. I noticed a change in my energy when I was only

using it for a few hours even just a few times a week.

I have been very scared of masks on my face for years,

and I was very upset when the nasal pillows did not

work for me, and I had to switch to a face mask. I

didn't think I could do it. But over time it did get

easier. One thing I did was start out with the mask

over my face but not latched. I would hold it on my

face until I started to fall asleep. If you don't have

arm strength, this may not be an option for you. But

that is one way I became more accustomed to it. After

practicing for awhile like that, I would start

latching it just for a few minutes at a time, and work

my way up.

Another thing I did to practice was to wear it during

the day. If I took a nap, or even just layed down to

rest in the afternoon, I would wear it. It made me

less nervous to nap with it during the day than to

sleep with it at night.

I hope this helps.

Dina

--- Joy <j0yeuxx@...> wrote:

> Hi Dina,

> I cannot get used to it. :( I keep trying but can

> only tolerate it for about 45 min. to an hour.

> I don't think with such little use it will give me

> more energy and mental clarity and everything

> wonderful it is said to do huh?

>

>

> Dina Abramson <dinaa68@...> wrote:

> I am using a bi-pap on most nights; I started last

> September but it has taken me a long time to get

> used

> to it. It does not take everyone as long as me to

> get

> used to it. I definitely think it is working; I have

> more energy and more mental clarity as well. I am

> also

> experencing less anxiety than I used to, although I

> don't know if that is becuase of the bi-pap. When I

> went in for breathing tests in July, my counts were

> the highest they have ever been in the three years

> that I've been seeing this doctor. I had also gained

> a

> pound and a half. My doctor was thrilled. So was I.

> So

> even though there are still nights when its hard for

> me to wear it, I try not to take it off. Its a very

> different experience for different people. Some

> people

> adjust to it right away. I don't adjust to anything

> right away, LOL. :-) Lori G. can verify that. :-)

>

> Dina

> --- as if wrote:

>

> > i have been using the bipap for around 6 months

> and

> > i love ut it has changed my life dramaticly i will

> > now not even have a nap without using it

> >

> > laura

> >

> > Jenifer Woody wrote:

> > I have an 11 year old daughter who has

> > been using bipap since she was 4. Most of the time

> > doctors resist putting kids on them until it's

> > absolutely necessary, so if your daughter's sleep

> > study is showing a need then you might want to

> > really consider it.

> > That being said...

> > Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is

> a

> > completely personal decision. You have to choose

> > what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family. We

> > wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything

> because

> > she's been so much healthier since she began using

> > it, but I also know families who are very

> > uncomfortable with the idea of using it. I know

> many

> > families who only choose to use bipap when their

> > child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal

> > decision.

> > My personal opinion is this: If a child is having

> > chronic respiratory infections, seems tired or

> > easily tired during the day, or seems to be losing

> > strengths that they once had, then a bipap is

> > probably a good idea.

> > If you want to talk to more parents who have

> chosen

> > this route for their children you might want to

> > check out www.smasupport.com - There are many

> > parents who have made the choice for their

> children

> > to use bipap there.

> > Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to

> > sleep without her bipap. She's completely

> > comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She

> ASKS

> > for it if she's not feeling well!!!!!

> > Good luck with your decision

> >

> > Love and Hugs

> > Jeni

> >

> >

> > BiPap Machine

> >

> > Hi,

> > My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> > need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> > find that she is still very active and alert day

> > time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep

> or

> > not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> > looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> > there anything else we can do to verify or check

> if

> > she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> > don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so

> early

> > if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

> >

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Thanks-this really helps me feel like less of a lamo for not being able to

adjust right away.

I won't give up and like you said I'll just work my way up to more time. I

didn't think it would bother me, so that is a surprise in itself. I'll be ok

though-I'm not the type to just give up. :)

I appreciate you sharing your experience too!

Dina Abramson <dinaa68@...> wrote:

I definitely understand your frustration Joy. How many

months have you been working at it? I have been

working at it for nearly a year, and I'm still not

using it all night every night.

I think if you work your way up to even two or three

hours a night, it would be better than not using it

all. I noticed a change in my energy when I was only

using it for a few hours even just a few times a week.

I have been very scared of masks on my face for years,

and I was very upset when the nasal pillows did not

work for me, and I had to switch to a face mask. I

didn't think I could do it. But over time it did get

easier. One thing I did was start out with the mask

over my face but not latched. I would hold it on my

face until I started to fall asleep. If you don't have

arm strength, this may not be an option for you. But

that is one way I became more accustomed to it. After

practicing for awhile like that, I would start

latching it just for a few minutes at a time, and work

my way up.

Another thing I did to practice was to wear it during

the day. If I took a nap, or even just layed down to

rest in the afternoon, I would wear it. It made me

less nervous to nap with it during the day than to

sleep with it at night.

I hope this helps.

Dina

--- Joy wrote:

> Hi Dina,

> I cannot get used to it. :( I keep trying but can

> only tolerate it for about 45 min. to an hour.

> I don't think with such little use it will give me

> more energy and mental clarity and everything

> wonderful it is said to do huh?

>

>

> Dina Abramson wrote:

> I am using a bi-pap on most nights; I started last

> September but it has taken me a long time to get

> used

> to it. It does not take everyone as long as me to

> get

> used to it. I definitely think it is working; I have

> more energy and more mental clarity as well. I am

> also

> experencing less anxiety than I used to, although I

> don't know if that is becuase of the bi-pap. When I

> went in for breathing tests in July, my counts were

> the highest they have ever been in the three years

> that I've been seeing this doctor. I had also gained

> a

> pound and a half. My doctor was thrilled. So was I.

> So

> even though there are still nights when its hard for

> me to wear it, I try not to take it off. Its a very

> different experience for different people. Some

> people

> adjust to it right away. I don't adjust to anything

> right away, LOL. :-) Lori G. can verify that. :-)

>

> Dina

> --- as if wrote:

>

> > i have been using the bipap for around 6 months

> and

> > i love ut it has changed my life dramaticly i will

> > now not even have a nap without using it

> >

> > laura

> >

> > Jenifer Woody wrote:

> > I have an 11 year old daughter who has

> > been using bipap since she was 4. Most of the time

> > doctors resist putting kids on them until it's

> > absolutely necessary, so if your daughter's sleep

> > study is showing a need then you might want to

> > really consider it.

> > That being said...

> > Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is

> a

> > completely personal decision. You have to choose

> > what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family. We

> > wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything

> because

> > she's been so much healthier since she began using

> > it, but I also know families who are very

> > uncomfortable with the idea of using it. I know

> many

> > families who only choose to use bipap when their

> > child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal

> > decision.

> > My personal opinion is this: If a child is having

> > chronic respiratory infections, seems tired or

> > easily tired during the day, or seems to be losing

> > strengths that they once had, then a bipap is

> > probably a good idea.

> > If you want to talk to more parents who have

> chosen

> > this route for their children you might want to

> > check out www.smasupport.com - There are many

> > parents who have made the choice for their

> children

> > to use bipap there.

> > Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to

> > sleep without her bipap. She's completely

> > comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She

> ASKS

> > for it if she's not feeling well!!!!!

> > Good luck with your decision

> >

> > Love and Hugs

> > Jeni

> >

> >

> > BiPap Machine

> >

> > Hi,

> > My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> > need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> > find that she is still very active and alert day

> > time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep

> or

> > not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> > looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> > there anything else we can do to verify or check

> if

> > she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> > don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so

> early

> > if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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Hi, thank you very much for those who have responded to my enquiry on the Bipap.

Well, we have brought her for a follow up at the clinic last week and the doctor

decided to put her on another sleep study this November to further assess the

need on the Bipap as she has managed to reduce her weight by 2kg. May I know if

a person who is already using the Bipap would require to do a sleep study yearly

or not ? Or, how often a SMAer need to do the sleep study ? Rgds, ML

Dina Abramson <dinaa68@...> wrote:

I definitely understand your frustration Joy. How many

months have you been working at it? I have been

working at it for nearly a year, and I'm still not

using it all night every night.

I think if you work your way up to even two or three

hours a night, it would be better than not using it

all. I noticed a change in my energy when I was only

using it for a few hours even just a few times a week.

I have been very scared of masks on my face for years,

and I was very upset when the nasal pillows did not

work for me, and I had to switch to a face mask. I

didn't think I could do it. But over time it did get

easier. One thing I did was start out with the mask

over my face but not latched. I would hold it on my

face until I started to fall asleep. If you don't have

arm strength, this may not be an option for you. But

that is one way I became more accustomed to it. After

practicing for awhile like that, I would start

latching it just for a few minutes at a time, and work

my way up.

Another thing I did to practice was to wear it during

the day. If I took a nap, or even just layed down to

rest in the afternoon, I would wear it. It made me

less nervous to nap with it during the day than to

sleep with it at night.

I hope this helps.

Dina

--- Joy <j0yeuxx@...> wrote:

> Hi Dina,

> I cannot get used to it. :( I keep trying but can

> only tolerate it for about 45 min. to an hour.

> I don't think with such little use it will give me

> more energy and mental clarity and everything

> wonderful it is said to do huh?

>

>

> Dina Abramson <dinaa68@...> wrote:

> I am using a bi-pap on most nights; I started last

> September but it has taken me a long time to get

> used

> to it. It does not take everyone as long as me to

> get

> used to it. I definitely think it is working; I have

> more energy and more mental clarity as well. I am

> also

> experencing less anxiety than I used to, although I

> don't know if that is becuase of the bi-pap. When I

> went in for breathing tests in July, my counts were

> the highest they have ever been in the three years

> that I've been seeing this doctor. I had also gained

> a

> pound and a half. My doctor was thrilled. So was I.

> So

> even though there are still nights when its hard for

> me to wear it, I try not to take it off. Its a very

> different experience for different people. Some

> people

> adjust to it right away. I don't adjust to anything

> right away, LOL. :-) Lori G. can verify that. :-)

>

> Dina

> --- as if wrote:

>

> > i have been using the bipap for around 6 months

> and

> > i love ut it has changed my life dramaticly i will

> > now not even have a nap without using it

> >

> > laura

> >

> > Jenifer Woody wrote:

> > I have an 11 year old daughter who has

> > been using bipap since she was 4. Most of the time

> > doctors resist putting kids on them until it's

> > absolutely necessary, so if your daughter's sleep

> > study is showing a need then you might want to

> > really consider it.

> > That being said...

> > Whether to use any of these pieces of equipment is

> a

> > completely personal decision. You have to choose

> > what is right for YOUR child and YOUR family. We

> > wouldn't give up h's bipap for anything

> because

> > she's been so much healthier since she began using

> > it, but I also know families who are very

> > uncomfortable with the idea of using it. I know

> many

> > families who only choose to use bipap when their

> > child is sick. Like I said, it's a personal

> > decision.

> > My personal opinion is this: If a child is having

> > chronic respiratory infections, seems tired or

> > easily tired during the day, or seems to be losing

> > strengths that they once had, then a bipap is

> > probably a good idea.

> > If you want to talk to more parents who have

> chosen

> > this route for their children you might want to

> > check out www.smasupport.com - There are many

> > parents who have made the choice for their

> children

> > to use bipap there.

> > Also, I'd like to say that h refuses to go to

> > sleep without her bipap. She's completely

> > comfortable with it and knows it helps her. She

> ASKS

> > for it if she's not feeling well!!!!!

> > Good luck with your decision

> >

> > Love and Hugs

> > Jeni

> >

> >

> > BiPap Machine

> >

> > Hi,

> > My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> > need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> > find that she is still very active and alert day

> > time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep

> or

> > not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> > looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> > there anything else we can do to verify or check

> if

> > she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> > don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so

> early

> > if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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h has been using bi-pap since she was 4 (2000) and has only had ONE sleep

study total - just a little over a month ago. She did not have one before

beginning bipap because it was during a critical hospital stay. We only did this

one to assess her need to move from pressure ventilation (bi-pap) to volume

ventilation.

Good luck

Love and Hugs

Jeni

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> >

> > Hi,

> > My daughter age 8 (SMA II) was told that she may

> > need to use the BiPap machine at night. However, I

> > find that she is still very active and alert day

> > time and don't seem to be not having enough sleep

> or

> > not sleep well as what the doctor suggested after

> > looking at her sleep study report. May I know is

> > there anything else we can do to verify or check

> if

> > she really need the BiPap machine now ? We really

> > don't wish to put her on the BiPap machine so

> early

> > if possible. Can someone please help. Tqvm. ML

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Hi Ming Lee,

I've used different types of ventilation over the years and have

never had a full-fledged sleep study, but I think they are less

common with my generation (I'm 41). I've only had initial pulmonary

testing at age 14 with arterial blood-gases (ABGs). Then I had

occasional in-the-middle-of-the-night and first-waking-up ABGs when

in the hospital for the 1st 8 or 10 years after that while trying to

figure out what's wrong when I've been repeatedly sick. Once when I

was about 20, a respiratory therapist came to my home at 8:00 a.m. to

do an ABG when I was 1st waking and was still on my nighttime vent.

Now, I'm having more trouble sleeping and have more headaches. I

believe it's because antibiotics keep causing severe stomach gas that

obstructs my breathing. I'll be talking with a pulmonary doc about

looking into this. They'll probably want to do a sleep study.

In my experience, once a person's ventilation is stabilized, sleep

studies aren't necessary unless something changes. Your daughter's

weight-loss is a good example of why they might want to do another

sleep study, especially if it's an unexplained and undesireable

weight-loss.

But I also want to remind you that as your daughter's health care

advocate, you can decline doing tests that you believe are

unnecessary. For example, when I go to the emergency room with

severe kidney stone pain, the doctor automatically orders a chest x-

ray before even meeting me because I'm on a ventilator. I turn the x-

ray technician away and explain that I am refusing it because I'm not

having respiratory problems. This makes some docs nervous and

annoyed until they meet me and realize I know what I'm doing and they

listen to my lungs which have been clear since May '00. Now I tell

the triage nurse right away that I'll refuse any chest x-rays the

doctor might order...This saves time.

Good luck with the testing!

Alana

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