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In a message dated 12/1/2006 9:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

laurenmarie791@... writes:

So for those of you that live in the snowy areas, I'm wondering how

your power chairs work out with this?

This'll be my first winter with my chair and I'm dreading it. Upstate NY

SUCKS!

Amy

Wife to Will 11/3/95

Mama to Olivia Isabelle 9/18/03

&

Phineas Maximilian 11/30/05

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I have a 4x4 for the snow, but it's not for indoors at all.

<laurenmarie791@...> wrote:

So for those of you that live in the snowy areas, I'm wondering how

your power chairs work out with this?

as you know im considering a move to illinois, which would mean snow---

something im not used to in CA...i just picture my tires spinning and

having no control!

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That is why I moved to Texas! :P

blueyedaze@... wrote:

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>

>

> This'll be my first winter with my chair and I'm dreading it. Upstate NY

> SUCKS!

>

> Amy

> Wife to Will 11/3/95

> Mama to Olivia Isabelle 9/18/03

> &

> Phineas Maximilian 11/30/05

>

>

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This is one of the many reasons I moved to California, and THE reason

I'll never move back to a snowy area. Your chair pretty much can't

handle the snow without another person to push along and dig you out.

Not only outside, but inside - because your tires get so wet and you

slip on everything. I always needed paratransit to go anywhere - and

it was always limited to school and no where else. Once at school, I

needed the drivers to push me up the ramps because I was slippery and

the ramps were slippery so I'd slide and get no where. I had a really

nice paratransit company in upstate NY and made friends with the

drivers (to the point we'd hang out on weekend - they were all very

young). They would help dry off my wheels so I wouldn't slip around on

the floors at university before they'd leave.

Beside the snow, expect to get sick A LOT more often. Since moving out

to CA, I have had about one head cold per year that went away with

some rest and fluids. (Beside right now - I am fighting the flu! but

it's all my fault for not pushing for my flu shot.) I was perpetually

ill in some manner while living in NY between the months of November

and April.

<3 Kendra

>

>

> In a message dated 12/1/2006 9:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> laurenmarie791@... writes:

>

> So for those of you that live in the snowy areas, I'm wondering how

> your power chairs work out with this?

>

>

> This'll be my first winter with my chair and I'm dreading it.

Upstate NY

> SUCKS!

>

>

> Amy

> Wife to Will 11/3/95

> Mama to Olivia Isabelle 9/18/03

> &

> Phineas Maximilian 11/30/05

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Same here. I don't think I would have lasted much longer had I remained

in NY. At one point, I was down to 43 lbs and bed bound/vented at age

18/19.

Lori

Kendra wrote:

I was perpetuallyill in some manner while living in NY between the

months of November

>

> and April.

>

> <3 Kendra

>

>

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 12/1/2006 9:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > laurenmarie791@... writes:

> >

> > So for those of you that live in the snowy areas, I'm wondering how

> > your power chairs work out with this?

> >

> >

> > This'll be my first winter with my chair and I'm dreading it.

> Upstate NY

> > SUCKS!

> >

> >

> > Amy

> > Wife to Will 11/3/95

> > Mama to Olivia Isabelle 9/18/03

> > &

> > Phineas Maximilian 11/30/05

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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My Omegatrac doesn't have much trouble with snow. It's a real tank. It

should -- it weighs 510 pounds all by itself... :) I'm considering

switching from the standard street tire 3.00x10 (16 " dia by 3 " wide) to

the 4.00x8 knobbies (16 " dia by 4 " wide).

I'm also considering their 6-1/2 " wide high-flotation tire option, or

possibly the part-time 3.00x10 duallies option.

The only other good luck I've had with chairs is with my old German

Ortopedia 12UVE924SV, which I think was the predecessor to their Touring

924 chair. That chair was absolutely terrific for 2 year old technology,

and is still more advanced in many ways than many chairs made today.

jeff

wrote on 12/01/06 20:16:

> So for those of you that live in the snowy areas, I'm wondering how

> your power chairs work out with this?

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I live in Ohio and absoutely hate the snow. When

it gets cold, I tend to stay inside most of the

time. Plus I think I have seasonal depressive

disorder so it's not like I really *want* to go

anywhere. I can't drive at all with gloves or

mittens, and most jackets besides my

flannel shaw are too bulky and cumbersome.

I've also resorted to the old folks' " lap blanket. "

If I have to go in the snow, my husband usually

has to shovel a path for me, but I still slip

and slide. The worst thing is that if I get

chilled, it can take hours of sitting over my space

heater to get warm again. I'd much rather

live in a warm climate because if I get

overheated, I can cool off after only 5 minutes

in AC. The trick is convincing my husband

that moving is worth the expense and

higher living costs.

Jenn

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Higher cost of living? I'm pretty sure the cost of living is lower in

the south. And...at least in Texas no state income tax.

L

jennifer wrote:

>

> I live in Ohio and absoutely hate the snow. When

> it gets cold, I tend to stay inside most of the

> time. Plus I think I have seasonal depressive

> disorder so it's not like I really *want* to go

> anywhere. I can't drive at all with gloves or

> mittens, and most jackets besides my

> flannel shaw are too bulky and cumbersome.

> I've also resorted to the old folks' " lap blanket. "

> If I have to go in the snow, my husband usually

> has to shovel a path for me, but I still slip

> and slide. The worst thing is that if I get

> chilled, it can take hours of sitting over my space

> heater to get warm again. I'd much rather

> live in a warm climate because if I get

> overheated, I can cool off after only 5 minutes

> in AC. The trick is convincing my husband

> that moving is worth the expense and

> higher living costs.

>

> Jenn

>

>

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If you're dead serious about staying warm, I have a few ideas on how to

keep warm. I've had a lot of practice, being the coldest-natured person

I know...

One thing to keep warm is the head. I used to have a lot of hair up

there, and it's amazing how much colder the world has gotten (in spite

of global warming) since most of it has jumped ship in favor of the hair

brush over the years. :)

A mask that recycles the heat from your breath can really help keep you

from losing heat. I know from personal experience that it keeps your

lungs from being so cold that it's hard to breathe.

I know of a couple of places to buy them. Mine was bought years ago, and

these look like they are made to work better and more conveniently.

Seems like the main people that buy them are hunters. You will find that

they look really weird -- but if it keeps you warm, and your friends are

all complaining about how cold they are, the mask wins. :-)

Cabela's -- PolarWrap™ Exchanger® Headcover (they do come in black)

<http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/c\

abelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A & _DAV=MainCatcat470076-cat470165 & id=0005\

743941383a & navCount=2 & podId=0005743941383 & parentId=cat470165 & masterpathid= & navAc\

tion=push & catalogCode=UG & rid= & parentType=index & indexId=cat470165 & hasJS=true>

Four Seasons Survival Gear and Camping Equipment

<http://www.fourseasonssurvival.com/index.cfm>

Heating Face Masks (recycles the heat from your breath)

<http://www.fourseasonssurvival.com/osb/showitem.cfm?Category=55>

Campmor: Columbia Kazoo Hatâ„¢

(put this on over the heat-recycling headgear) Very warm by itself.

<http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=11608\

776 & memberId=12500226>

Then there's the feet. Neoprene socks are very warm (made of the same

stuff that they make SCUBA suits out of).

Chota Outdoor Gear - Innovative Fly Fishing and Paddling Gear

<http://www.chotaoutdoorgear.com/>

Chota Outdoor Gear - Innovative Fly Fishing and Paddling Gear

<http://www.chotaoutdoorgear.com/paddling.asp?section=store>

Brookie Knee-High Wading Sock from Chota Outdoor Gear - Innovative Fly

Fishing and Paddling Gear [ fleece lined, watertight, comfortable, warm,

cold-water ]

<http://www.chotaoutdoorgear.com/CyberMerchant/scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=36\

>

Campmor: Campmor Neoprene Stretch

Socks<http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=\

13287368 & memberId=12500226 & storeId=226 & catalogId=40000000226 & langId=-1>

Put on a set of wool or polypropelene fleece socks (the heavier the

better) on the inside of the neoprene socks adds to the warmth. The

neopren stuff will have to be sized big enough to go over the socks.

Cabela's Shop -- Men's Socks

<http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/subcategory/subcategory.jsp?id=cat6\

00862 & navCount=0 & parentId=cat21082 & navAction=jump>

Cabela's Wader Knee-to-Toe Sock

<http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=001640\

4811788a & navCount=5 & podId=0016404 & parentId=cat601708 & masterpathid= & navAction=jum\

p & cmCat=catfeatfoot & catalogCode=XG & rid= & parentType=index & indexId=cat601708>

Cabela's -- Columbia Monarch Pass Hunting Sock and Liner Combo

<http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?id=002695\

5812250a & navCount=5 & podId=0026955 & parentId=cat601708 & masterpathid= & navAction=jum\

p & cmCat=catfeatfoot & catalogCode=2UG & rid= & parentType=index & indexId=cat601708>

Cabela's -- Women's Socks

<http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/index/index-display.jsp?id=cat60108\

9 & navAction=jump & navCount=1 & parentId=cat601085 & parentType=category & cmCat=MainCat\

cat601085>

Cabela's -- Acorn 200-Weight Fleece Versa Socks

<http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod.jsp?id=0029137 & nav\

Count=14 & parentId=cat601089 & masterpathid= & navAction=push & cmCat=MainCatcat601085-\

cat601089_TGP & parentType=index & indexId=cat601089 & rid=>

Men's Thermal Socks :: FootSmart :: Find Softop, Smartwool & Other

Thermal Socks for Men

<http://www.footsmart.com/C-Mens-Thermal-Socks-180.aspx>

Women's Thermal Socks for Cold Feet :: SmartWool, World's Softest Socks

& More :: FootSmart

<http://www.footsmart.com/C-Womens-Thermal-Socks-166.aspx>

I came across this one by accident. I suppose those who wear skirts

could wrap this heated blanket around their legs under a long skirt. I

have no idea how long the battery might last.

Roadpro 12-Volt Heated Blanket With Portable Power Supply, Truck & Suv,

Roadpro at Sportsman's Guide

<http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=155920>

I found something for hands -- will post it when I can find it again.

Kendra wrote on 12/03/06 14:25:

> Oh gosh! You guys are bringing up memories of things I forgot I hated

> about the cold. I always had my fingers/hands get so cold I couldn't

> drive either. I used gloves as much as possible, but again - just

> avoided going outside. Similarly, my lungs would burn from breathing

> the cold air. I really had to bundle up a lot to the point I couldn't

> move.

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> Higher cost of living? I'm pretty sure the cost of living is lower in

> the south. And...at least in Texas no state income tax.

I always thought Ohio had a really low cost of living, but

I guess I was wrong. It ranks like 22nd. Still, convincing

everyone to move just so I can be warm year-round is

going to take some doing.

Jenn

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I'm not trying to convince anyone to move anywhere. I was responding to

the inaccurate information that the cost of living is higher in the

south. I say if you want to be miserable and socially isolated all

winter, be my guest. I made the choice to move south and away from all

that.

Lori

jennifer wrote:

>

>

> >

> > Higher cost of living? I'm pretty sure the cost of living is lower in

> > the south. And...at least in Texas no state income tax.

>

> I always thought Ohio had a really low cost of living, but

> I guess I was wrong. It ranks like 22nd. Still, convincing

> everyone to move just so I can be warm year-round is

> going to take some doing.

>

> Jenn

>

>

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Hey, I just have to say that I¹ve lived in Minnesota my whole life and have

never found the winter to be that big of a deal. I still go out and do

everything except hang around outside of course... ;-) I have a mid wheel

drive chair and get threw the snow OK but not as well as my old rear wheel

drive chair did. I personally think it¹s fun to slide on the ice and go

iceskating....

On 12/4/06 6:15 PM, " Lori " <those2@...> wrote:

> I'm not trying to convince anyone to move anywhere. I was responding to

> the inaccurate information that the cost of living is higher in the

> south. I say if you want to be miserable and socially isolated all

> winter, be my guest. I made the choice to move south and away from all

> that.

>

> Lori

>

> jennifer wrote:

>> >

>> >

>>> > >

>>> > > Higher cost of living? I'm pretty sure the cost of living is lower in

>>> > > the south. And...at least in Texas no state income tax.

>> >

>> > I always thought Ohio had a really low cost of living, but

>> > I guess I was wrong. It ranks like 22nd. Still, convincing

>> > everyone to move just so I can be warm year-round is

>> > going to take some doing.

>> >

>> > Jenn

>> >

>> >

>

>

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My Invacare Storm3 is strong and can go into some snow but can not cope

with ice. I to go into hysterics thinking about it! :-)

Camilla

Germany

>

> So for those of you that live in the snowy areas, I'm wondering how

> your power chairs work out with this?

>

> as you know im considering a move to illinois, which would mean snow--

-

> something im not used to in CA...i just picture my tires spinning and

> having no control!

>

>

>

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> I'm not trying to convince anyone to move anywhere. I was responding to

> the inaccurate information that the cost of living is higher in the

> south. I say if you want to be miserable and socially isolated all

> winter, be my guest. I made the choice to move south and away from all

> that.

>

> Lori

Oh, no, I meant convincing everyone, as in my family members,

will be hard. I don't like to be miserable all winter, but

I can't exactly pick up and move if my husband and kids

aren't going to.

Jenn

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I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you meant.

L

jennifer wrote:

>

>

> >

> > I'm not trying to convince anyone to move anywhere. I was responding to

> > the inaccurate information that the cost of living is higher in the

> > south. I say if you want to be miserable and socially isolated all

> > winter, be my guest. I made the choice to move south and away from all

> > that.

> >

> > Lori

>

> Oh, no, I meant convincing everyone, as in my family members,

> will be hard. I don't like to be miserable all winter, but

> I can't exactly pick up and move if my husband and kids

> aren't going to.

>

> Jenn

>

>

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