Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I'm sorry, I deleted the last e-mail before replying so I can't remember who sent it. It was why was abortion even an issue when talking about autism or something along that line. It is just that lately this is the second article that I have seen suggesting that autistic babies should be aborted. As I said, abortion is a strong issue with me. One that gets me heated and I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that was just my view on it. So it really ticks me off when someone suggests that autistic children (that would mean my son) should be aborted before they are even given a chance. And I whole heartedly agree with you that my son was also fine until bombarded with all the crap they said he needs to be " healthy " . No, modern medicine didn't make him healthy, it destroyed his health so now I am having to nurse him back at the risk of going bankrupt to get there. Would I have aborted him if I had known he was going to be this way? If I had known that I will never have the nice house or the fancy cars? ABSOLUTELY NOT! This is not his fault and I have more " wealth " in him and my daughter then any millionaire on the hill. So if I offended any one with my comments, I am sorry. That is just two of my sore spots:abortion and people poking at autistics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Thank you! I'm glad that you agree. I just didn't want to offend anyone if I did, but I know this is a touchy issue with most. > > From: Debbie Graves <gravesfmly@...> > Date: 2005/10/24 Mon AM 07:25:07 CDT > tylerhaley01@... > Subject: Re: Abortion issue > > , > It is an absolute shame that you feel you need to apologize, for standing in a position of love for the unborn. I agree with you one hundred percent! > Abortion doesn't just destroy a baby...it also destroys a part of the mother that she can never get back. > These children are some of the best souls on this earth! In the midst of all the pain....there is so much unconditional love! > Life is valued so much more, I think, by the parents of the autistic child. There is no way a parent of a healthy child, or the childless couple, could possibly understand. I would not trade one moment with my daughter for anything in the world. She is the best person I have ever known. This world would be a darker place without her. And I, could not have become the person I am, without her. > Debbie Graves > > > tylerhaley01@... wrote: > I'm sorry, I deleted the last e-mail before replying so I can't remember who sent it. It was why was abortion even an issue when talking about autism or something along that line. It is just that lately this is the second article that I have seen suggesting that autistic babies should be aborted. As I said, abortion is a strong issue with me. One that gets me heated and I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that was just my view on it. So it really ticks me off when someone suggests that autistic children (that would mean my son) should be aborted before they are even given a chance. And I whole heartedly agree with you that my son was also fine until bombarded with all the crap they said he needs to be " healthy " . No, modern medicine didn't make him healthy, it destroyed his health so now I am having to nurse him back at the risk of going bankrupt to get there. Would I have aborted him if I had known he was going to be this way? If I had known that I will never have the > nice house or the fancy cars? ABSOLUTELY NOT! This is not his fault and I have more " wealth " in him and my daughter then any millionaire on the hill. So if I offended any one with my comments, I am sorry. That is just two of my sore spots:abortion and people poking at autistics! > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 As I said in my e-mail, what is really chapping my hide is that people talk about our children like they are objects. These unfeeling, defective items. No one would dream of saying if I had known my NT child was going to make my life inconvenient I would have aborted him. They would be looked at like a monster and unfit parent. What exactly is the difference? Now, I am a big supporter of Roe vs. Wade with this caveat, I would never abort a child and would never want anyone else to - that is no one's but my decision. The reason I support it is because overturning can end up being a double edged sword; if I allow the government to make a decision regarding my body now, (ie: not aborting) that precedent can be turned around (ie: you must abort a child that is considered a " burden " to society). That scares me. I don't think that is too far ahead, and I cannot allow that to happen. We have made the mistake as a society to involve the government in something that should not be a legal issue, it should be a social issue. Parents of disabled children need to stop allowing themselves to be portrayed as the poor burdened parents or the pathetic " sacrificial lambs " of society - " Look at them, look how patient/wonderful they are with " him/her " - I could never make that sacrifice.... what a rock " *Shan hurls on her keyboard* If we act burdened then our children look like a burden. It's really not that big a sacrifice, really. Sometimes it is difficult, but no more than any other thing that could have been thrown my way. Fortunately, this is one of the few groups of parents that do not portray themselves this way. Well, I have had my rant and, I also hope I did not offend anyone. > > I'm sorry, I deleted the last e-mail before replying so I can't remember who sent it. It was why was abortion even an issue when talking about autism or something along that line. It is just that lately this is the second article that I have seen suggesting that autistic babies should be aborted. As I said, abortion is a strong issue with me. One that gets me heated and I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that was just my view on it. So it really ticks me off when someone suggests that autistic children (that would mean my son) should be aborted before they are even given a chance. And I whole heartedly agree with you that my son was also fine until bombarded with all the crap they said he needs to be " healthy " . No, modern medicine didn't make him healthy, it destroyed his health so now I am having to nurse him back at the risk of going bankrupt to get there. Would I have aborted him if I had known he was going to be this way? If I had known that I will never have the > > nice house or the fancy cars? ABSOLUTELY NOT! This is not his fault and I have more " wealth " in him and my daughter then any millionaire on the hill. So if I offended any one with my comments, I am sorry. That is just two of my sore spots:abortion and people poking at autistics! > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Well said. I see what you mean about the Roe vs. Wade turning around on us. They may be able to force you eventually to abort a child that, in their mind, isn't " prefect " . I cannot make any decisions for people, I just have to make my own and live with what decisions I make. I am not perfect by any means. I agree with you that this group is a wonderfully strong group. We will not be made out to be the " weaker link " . I have actually had people tell me " You are such a strong person. You are such a good mother to be involved so much with autism and researching all that you can on it. " To me, that doesn't make me a good mother, it makes me a mother. It is just instinct to me to learn all that I can about my son so that I can help him. I am not doing this for my glory at all. I am doing this out of love for my son. I am sure that every parent here feels the same way. So in a way, I think it is society that makes us out to be the burdened ones, not us. Granted, I am sure there are some out there that do the " whoa is me " thing. Not me. (Don't know if I spelt that whoa right or not ) I do think that you are a strong parent, too, for standing up for your child. I will respond to this person's blog when I am at home and have time to write more. I noticed that someone had already responded to it. Was that you? Whoever it was, they are a very patient person. More then me. > > From: " taylorleea1 " <rcnilson@...> > Date: 2005/10/24 Mon AM 11:38:44 CDT > EOHarm > Subject: Re: Abortion issue > > As I said in my e-mail, what is really chapping my hide is that > people talk about our children like they are objects. These > unfeeling, defective items. > > No one would dream of saying if I had known my NT child was going to > make my life inconvenient I would have aborted him. They would be > looked at like a monster and unfit parent. What exactly is the > difference? > > Now, I am a big supporter of Roe vs. Wade with this caveat, I would > never abort a child and would never want anyone else to - that is no > one's but my decision. The reason I support it is because > overturning can end up being a double edged sword; if I allow the > government to make a decision regarding my body now, (ie: not > aborting) that precedent can be turned around (ie: you must abort a > child that is considered a " burden " to society). That scares me. I > don't think that is too far ahead, and I cannot allow that to happen. > > We have made the mistake as a society to involve the government in > something that should not be a legal issue, it should be a social > issue. Parents of disabled children need to stop allowing themselves > to be portrayed as the poor burdened parents or the > pathetic " sacrificial lambs " of society - " Look at them, look how > patient/wonderful they are with " him/her " - I could never make that > sacrifice.... what a rock " *Shan hurls on her keyboard* > > If we act burdened then our children look like a burden. > > It's really not that big a sacrifice, really. Sometimes it is > difficult, but no more than any other thing that could have been > thrown my way. > > Fortunately, this is one of the few groups of parents that do not > portray themselves this way. > > Well, I have had my rant and, I also hope I did not offend anyone. > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I deleted the last e-mail before replying so I can't > remember who sent it. It was why was abortion even an issue when > talking about autism or something along that line. It is just that > lately this is the second article that I have seen suggesting that > autistic babies should be aborted. As I said, abortion is a strong > issue with me. One that gets me heated and I know everyone is > entitled to their own opinion, that was just my view on it. So it > really ticks me off when someone suggests that autistic children > (that would mean my son) should be aborted before they are even > given a chance. And I whole heartedly agree with you that my son was > also fine until bombarded with all the crap they said he needs to > be " healthy " . No, modern medicine didn't make him healthy, it > destroyed his health so now I am having to nurse him back at the > risk of going bankrupt to get there. Would I have aborted him if I > had known he was going to be this way? If I had known that I will > never have the > > > nice house or the fancy cars? ABSOLUTELY NOT! This is not his > fault and I have more " wealth " in him and my daughter then any > millionaire on the hill. So if I offended any one with my comments, > I am sorry. That is just two of my sore spots:abortion and people > poking at autistics! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 I put something about it on my blog. But, I didn't respond to his blog. I thought he would probably delete me calling him an asshat on his own blog. Yeah, I know not very PC. I don't play well with others. > > Well said. I see what you mean about the Roe vs. Wade turning around on us. They may be able to force you eventually to abort a child that, in their mind, isn't " prefect " . I cannot make any decisions for people, I just have to make my own and live with what decisions I make. I am not perfect by any means. I agree with you that this group is a wonderfully strong group. We will not be made out to be the " weaker link " . I have actually had people tell me " You are such a strong person. You are such a good mother to be involved so much with autism and researching all that you can on it. " To me, that doesn't make me a good mother, it makes me a mother. It is just instinct to me to learn all that I can about my son so that I can help him. I am not doing this for my glory at all. I am doing this out of love for my son. I am sure that every parent here feels the same way. So in a way, I think it is society that makes us out to be the burdened ones, not us. Granted, I am sure there are some out there that do the " whoa is me " thing. Not me. (Don't know if I spelt that whoa right or not ) I do think that you are a strong parent, too, for standing up for your child. I will respond to this person's blog when I am at home and have time to write more. I noticed that someone had already responded to it. Was that you? Whoever it was, they are a very patient person. More then me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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