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<mnkygrl9@y...> wrote:I see the upside of an avian flu epidemic being that Darwin will be allowed to run his course, and, the herd will be culled.

I am sure Sanofi pasteur is looking for volunteers to determine the safety and immunogenicity of an H5N1 influenza vaccine...

Sanofi pasteur to Produce 100 M US Dollars of Vaccine Against H5N1 Influenza Virus for U.S. Government

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=153810

Sanofi pasteur is sponsoring the first clinical trials to determine the safety and immunogenicity of an H5N1 influenza vaccine. Sanofi pasteur is the only vaccine manufacturer to participate.

-----Original Message-----From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ]On Behalf Of Mark ProbertSent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:10 PMEOHarm Subject: Check out this website: StalkingThe owner of this blog remains anonymous. One of thefirst rules ofusing the internet is never trust anything, web sites,blogs, email,coming from ghosts, just as you wouldn't trust anyonewho walks aroundwearing a mask to hid their identity (except ofcourse, the Lone Ranger).Also, this casper makes a common mistake about emaillists like this.You cannot judge a list by the very small percentageof people whopost messages to it. I really can't tell if this isananti-thimerosal list or not by who is here. Amajority of subscriberswho leave comments when they apply for membership saysomething alongthe lines of that they want to join to keep up withissues raised bythe book Evidence of Harm without an opinion to goalong. Many do saythey are convinced of the mercury-vaccine connectionand want to dosomething about it, to be sure - but only a minority.Casper presents a caricature stereotype of who makesup this list andthen proceeds to throw anything it finds, big orpetty, to bash it.It's just an ongoing hit-piece against a straw man ithas created forpurposes of oppositional propaganda, and to beexpected. Ho-hum.Lennyps. I did send this casper an email asking it toidentify itself.We'll see.>http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/08/24-hours-on-s-evidence-of-harm.htmlI have been reading and lurking for several weeks.From what I can see, considering the nature of theattakcs on those who do not goose step in lock step tothe mantra of thimerosal is evil and caused us to haveruined lives, remaining annonymous seems to be a veryreasonable choice. I recall the "outing" of one owner of a blog where hispersonal professional contact information was postedto the group. This is nothing more than outrightstalking behavior. The fact that the moderator allowssuch conduct is chilling, as the only purpose ofposting such information is to intimidate theindividual. To save the fascist intimidators the trouble offinding dirt on me, I am convinced that there is nolink between autism, ADHD, etc. and the use ofthimerosal. Further, I am convinced that there arethose amongst the anti-thimerosal crowd who areanti-vaccine and are merely using the thimerosalissue. These people are child haters who would ratherwe return to the days of my childhood where ny didnot come back to school in September becuase his ironlung would not fit in the classroom. I see the upside of an avian flu epidemic being thatDarwin will be allowed to run his course, and, theherd will be culled. __________________________________ - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.

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I am responding to an email that Ms. Cregar sent

directly to me. If anyone does it, I will reply only

to the group.

--- Cregar <.Cregar@...> wrote:

> <mnkygrl9@y...> wrote:

> I see the upside of an avian flu epidemic being that

> Darwin will be allowed

> to run his course, and, the herd will be culled.

>

> I am sure Sanofi pasteur is looking for volunteers

> to determine the safety

> and immunogenicity of an H5N1 influenza vaccine...

>

> Sanofi pasteur to Produce 100 M US Dollars of

> Vaccine Against H5N1 Influenza

> Virus for U.S. Government

>

>

http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=153810

>

> Sanofi pasteur is sponsoring the first clinical

> trials to determine the

> safety and immunogenicity of an H5N1 influenza

> vaccine. Sanofi pasteur is

> the only vaccine manufacturer to participate.

As a combat veteran of Vietnam, I was given vaccines

for Yellow Fever, Plague, and all sorts of really bad

diseases.

While in Vietnam, I did not catch any of them. I did

enter a village where half the populace was dead due

to what was determined to be plague. We had been in

the area for a few weeks, and none of us caught it.

Imagine that. We evacuated the village and incinerated

the entire area to kill the infected rodents. Seems to

have worked. Imagine, though, that these poor people

could have kept their homes if they had been

vaccinated.

Later I got a job with Uncle Sam and spent a lot of

time in places where Sally Struthers would not walk

without puking. Again, copious use of vaccines kept me

healthy.

So, for your challenge, I have absolutely no problem.

I would have my entire family vaccinated in a heart

beat. My paternal grandparents were victims of the

1918 Worldwide Flu Pandemic. The avian flu looks like

a copy cat.

> Check out this website: Stalking

>

>

>

> The owner of this blog remains anonymous. One of

> the

> first rules of

> using the internet is never trust anything, web

> sites,

> blogs, email,

> coming from ghosts, just as you wouldn't trust

> anyone

> who walks around

> wearing a mask to hid their identity (except of

> course, the Lone

> Ranger).

>

> Also, this casper makes a common mistake about

> email

> lists like this.

> You cannot judge a list by the very small

> percentage

> of people who

> post messages to it. I really can't tell if this

> is

> an

> anti-thimerosal list or not by who is here. A

> majority of subscribers

> who leave comments when they apply for membership

> say

> something along

> the lines of that they want to join to keep up

> with

> issues raised by

> the book Evidence of Harm without an opinion to go

> along. Many do say

> they are convinced of the mercury-vaccine

> connection

> and want to do

> something about it, to be sure - but only a

> minority.

>

> Casper presents a caricature stereotype of who

> makes

> up this list and

> then proceeds to throw anything it finds, big or

> petty, to bash it.

> It's just an ongoing hit-piece against a straw man

> it

> has created for

> purposes of oppositional propaganda, and to be

> expected. Ho-hum.

>

> Lenny

>

> ps. I did send this casper an email asking it to

> identify itself.

> We'll see.

>

>

>

> >

>

>

http://www.supportvaccination.org/2005/08/24-hours-on-s-evidence-of-har

> m.html

>

>

> I have been reading and lurking for several weeks.

> From what I can see, considering the nature of the

> attakcs on those who do not goose step in lock

> step to

> the mantra of thimerosal is evil and caused us to

> have

> ruined lives, remaining annonymous seems to be a

> very

> reasonable choice.

>

> I recall the " outing " of one owner of a blog where

> his

> personal professional contact information was

> posted

> to the group. This is nothing more than outright

> stalking behavior. The fact that the moderator

> allows

> such conduct is chilling, as the only purpose of

> posting such information is to intimidate the

> individual.

>

> To save the fascist intimidators the trouble of

> finding dirt on me, I am convinced that there is

> no

> link between autism, ADHD, etc. and the use of

> thimerosal. Further, I am convinced that there are

> those amongst the anti-thimerosal crowd who are

> anti-vaccine and are merely using the thimerosal

> issue. These people are child haters who would

> rather

> we return to the days of my childhood where ny

> did

> not come back to school in September becuase his

> iron

> lung would not fit in the classroom.

>

> I see the upside of an avian flu epidemic being

> that

> Darwin will be allowed to run his course, and, the

> herd will be culled.

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________

> - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> http://mail.

>

>

>

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> I see the upside of an avian flu epidemic being that

> Darwin will be allowed to run his course, and, the

> herd will be culled.

Mark,

I think you are on the wrong list. For those with misanthropic

leanings like yourself who see upsides to pandemics, try

genocide-r-us.

We are mostly parents here with a far more modest goal of trying to

protect our children.

Good bye.

Lenny Schafer

EOH List Host

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