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hello gina :-)

i have a sumed cushion which i find comfortable, though you might find it a

bit hard to start with. i think it is a gel cushion. i know what you mean

about ot's try to make you text book. my last one said i should only be in a

wheelchair for a max of 3 hours at a time!!

linda

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> Firstly, an apology, as I rarely ever write, but have lurked here for a

long time.

>

> I have been going through an immense amount of pain for the past 5 months,

along with getting weaker rather more quickly than I am used to. I am type

1/2, 37, female living with partner.

>

> Can anybody suggest any ideas for cushions that are not moulded or

contoured? I have a pretty severe scoliosis which is fused (spinal fusion

when I was 16) - my left hip is about 3 " higher than the right - and I am in

the UK (so a little limited on what available). Oh, hips aren't level, but

the rest of my body has compensated over the years, so the point is - I am

used to it. I hate the idea of being trapped in a moulded seat - I fear it

will feel like a straight-jacket, and I like to be able to be moved a

little, albeit only a fraction. All I am being offered are very firm and

uncomfortable cushions (tempur foam is too hard), and constant discussions

about posture. My posture is shot, it is irredeemable, and therefore I want

comfort, not textbook postural support for increased lifespan at the cost of

comfort. My OT won't let me try a 4-cell Roho, and although I keep asking

for gel/soft cushions, yesterday I was given a Vicair to try (yuck, hard,

and today my hips are killing me).

>

> Please, if anyone has any ideas, I would be so grateful. I am so

uncomfortable that typing has become really hard, everything is getting so

hard now.

>

> Thanks for reading this,

>

>

>

> (big love and helloes to Lainie, and Sue, sorry for being such a

crap communicator)

>

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> 3 " higher than the right - and I am in the UK (so a little limited on what

> available). Oh, hips aren't level, but the rest of my body has compensated

> over the years, so the point is - I am used to it. I hate the idea of being

> trapped in a moulded seat - I fear it will feel like a straight-jacket, and

> I like to be able to be moved a little, albeit only a fraction.

I hear ya! They try that molded stuff with me...

Have you tried gel cushions....or putting something soft (fluffy towel, sheep

skin) on standard cushions.

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I use the dual cell, high profile Roho which I find very comfortable.

Why won't your OT let you try a Roho?

I hope you find just the right cushion! It makes a big difference.

Lori (40 y/o, married, Type II sma, peromobile use)

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Firstly, an apology, as I rarely ever write, but have lurked here for a long

time.

I have been going through an immense amount of pain for the past 5 months,

along with getting weaker rather more quickly than I am used to. I am type

1/2, 37, female living with partner.

Can anybody suggest any ideas for cushions that are not moulded or

contoured? I have a pretty severe scoliosis which is fused (spinal fusion

when I was 16) - my left hip is about 3 " higher than the right - and I am in

the UK (so a little limited on what available). Oh, hips aren't level, but

the rest of my body has compensated over the years, so the point is - I am

used to it. I hate the idea of being trapped in a moulded seat - I fear it

will feel like a straight-jacket, and I like to be able to be moved a

little, albeit only a fraction. All I am being offered are very firm and

uncomfortable cushions (tempur foam is too hard), and constant discussions

about posture. My posture is shot, it is irredeemable, and therefore I want

comfort, not textbook postural support for increased lifespan at the cost of

comfort. My OT won't let me try a 4-cell Roho, and although I keep asking

for gel/soft cushions, yesterday I was given a Vicair to try (yuck, hard,

and today my hips are killi!

ng me).

Please, if anyone has any ideas, I would be so grateful. I am so

uncomfortable that typing has become really hard, everything is getting so

hard now.

Thanks for reading this,

(big love and helloes to Lainie, and Sue, sorry for being such a crap

communicator)

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I had molded cushions all through grade school, high school and part

of college. Then I tried out a Roho. I would never go back to a

molded cushion. The Roho conforms wherever I'm placed in my

wheelchair seat, instead of having to be slid around until I'm in just

the right position!

Jenn

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Thank you so much for replying so fast, I am touched :)

>i have a sumed cushion which i find comfortable, though you might find it a

>bit hard to start with. i think it is a gel cushion.

I had a Sumed about 10 years ago, but the OT dept. (henceforth known as the

" off-topic " dept.) haave no record of it, jusst as they have no record of

the 2 Roho cushions I tried. I loved my Sumed, but It died a slimy death

when it became quite solidified and began to leak in its old age...

Lori

>I use the dual cell, high profile Roho which I find very comfortable.

>

>Why won't your OT let you try a Roho?

Because he seems to feel I need " postural support " - I fear he is trying to

improve, in his opinion, my posture - I have spent 21 years working on my

present posture - that is, I mean that given a soft enough cushion, I am a

happy bunny.

e_sma

>Have you tried gel cushions....or putting something soft (fluffy towel,

sheep

>skin) on standard cushions.

This is what I have been asking for, but I keep getting contoured stuff,

like Jay or Flowtech :( I am sitting on a piece of 3 " foam bought from a

local foam factory, amd what I am basically asking is for something which

mimics foam, but doesn't bottom out. Being assymetrical, I don't fit into

contoured stuff too well!

Jenn

>I had molded cushions all through grade school, high school and part

>of college. Then I tried out a Roho. I would never go back to a

>molded cushion. The Roho conforms wherever I'm placed in my

>wheelchair seat, instead of having to be slid around until I'm in just

>the right position!

My experience with the Roho in the past was that it made me feel more

floppy, but I know they now do 4 section ones, which in theory should work -

if only Bob the in the OT dept. would work with me on this.

What is really getting to me is that I feel I know my body best, and that my

gut feelings are pretty much always right. My neck was getting really tired

last year, so I asked whether I could try a neck brace to eliminate the need

for me to constantly prop up my head. The OT dept. (wheelchair services)

said it wasnt their area, and that I need to see an orthotist, which I then

did. 2 months later my apppoitment came, and the orthotist said she couldn't

help, but that the engineer there maybe could. They tried out the Whitmyer

headrest which has a strap around the forehead (if anyone is interested

http://www.whitbio.com/Pro%20Family%20Pages/Pro%20Dfs.html), and that worked

great for just short bursts of support to set me up for a few hours without

it. 6 months on and I am still waiting for it. It took 3 weeks for an

emergency meeting to discuss my cushion, and then I was given the Vicair a

week later, on loan.

I am so grateful to you all for replying, it really has made me feel that I

am not alone - I just wish I could borrow someones' spare cushion! Shame you

are all so far away. To top it all, I also have a small patch of exema on

the one hip that takes all the weight, and it flairs up with stress - right

now, it's bleeding and so itchy. I only developed this when I ghave up

smoking, grr!

Thanks again,

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I use a roho cushion. it works great for me. I have noticed I can

not stay up and am 'floppy' if it has too much air. Actually it is

more comfortable for me with no air. Sounds strange but its better

for me. I do not hit the bottom. The 4 cell doesnt work for me. just

regular old roho.

You need to try the gel cushions and the roho 4-cell and any other

kind until you get what works. I cant believe your OT wont let you

try it. I always thought an OT's job was to make you comfortable.

You can't do anything well if you're not comfortable.

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Lainie,

>I have a Varilite cushion. It's the best cushion that I have ever used. But

>I haven't tried all the others. This one is a combination of air and gel.

>It is 3 inches thick and it has a valve on one corner. You can open the

>valve and it sucks air in ( by magic ) . Of course you have to get your

>weight off of it for it to suck air in. When it's full you sit on it and

>then let air out a little at a time until it is comfortable. You can

>readjust it as many times and as often as necessary. Mine seem to last me

>about 2 years before it needs to be replaced.

I took a look at the website for the Varilite, but unfortunately I don't

think it will do for me as I am so asymmetrical ('windswept' as they say,

kinda romantic sounding ;), but it looks like a great cushion. I love the

principal of being able to let the air out of it, like a Roho, until you are

comfy. Hehehe, lasts 2 years? I've been trying to get a cushion that I can

sit on for longer than 2 hours for over 4 years now! Lol Thanks for writing

sweetie, I will be in touch when I can write more easily.

Vickie,

>, why won't your OT let you try a quad roho? I've had one forever and

love it. Mine is a quad especially made for me with 3 " bubbles " lower than

the rest. I just got it and it's saved me a lot of pain. You should push for

it. IMHO.

I can only think, now out of paranoia, that he really does place posture

above comfort - I have read some studies online that discuss the 'comfort

verses posture' and how '...if the optimum posture is achieved, it can

prolong life expectancy'. I really am all for having a good life and not

worrying about how long or short it is, quality, not quantity. Only my

opinion for me, not judging anyone else. The OT basically says it's not in

his 'remit' - which does seem to change from day to day.

(forgive me if that's not your name, I am going by email addy)

>I use a roho cushion. it works great for me. I have noticed I can

not stay up and am 'floppy' if it has too much air. Actually it is

more comfortable for me with no air. Sounds strange but its better

for me. I do not hit the bottom. The 4 cell doesnt work for me. just

regular old roho.

You need to try the gel cushions and the roho 4-cell and any other

kind until you get what works. I cant believe your OT wont let you

try it. I always thought an OT's job was to make you comfortable.

You can't do anything well if you're not comfortable.

To be honest, I understand what you are saying about no air, purely from the

standpoint that we all know our bodies best, and sometimes we are a

contradiction. The point is, we SMAers are so very good at adapting, and

these medical folk just cannot comprehend that we are more knowledgeable

than them when it comes to knowing ourselves. Maybe it challenges them

professionally or something. Whatever it is, I want to get past it really

fast and get on with living, be able to spend a few hours not thinking about

my sore butt, stiff hips and tired neck! I want to stop acting like a moany

old lady and get on with my life! Maybe have enough energy to write here

more often, and chat with friends online again - right now, typing more than

a sentence takes so long, I start to forget what I was ranting about!!

But thank you again for writing, it really does mean so much that you guys

took the time and energy to write - and I am going to voice my request for

trialing both gel and Roho cushions more strongly now that I know you have

found comfort with them. I was wondering if I could open a poll, and maybe

use the stats to back me up - would anyone mind?

Huge hugs and great thanks,

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> (big love and helloes to Lainie, and Sue, sorry for being such a crap

communicator)

Hey

I know what it's like when you're uncomfortable and everything's a big effort.

I can't believe your OT won't let you try the cushion you think may work, that's

not on. I would definitely kick off, lol!

I've been having probs sitting comfortably for a while, I've got an appointment

with a " Special Seating " clinic next week so we'll see what they come up with.

I'll get the " you need a moulded seat " speech but I don't want that for the same

reason as you, I still want to move a teeny bit :)

Tuftz

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I just wanted to thank Vickie for the great link; I am also trying out

Dragon Dictate, a 'borrowed' copy as it costs a fortune. Bit weird, talking

to the PC, my dogs and cats think I'm nuts, and my b/f is trying to 'turn a

deaf ear' to my witterings. It seems very quick to learn voice commands, and

is great for macros.

Good to hear from you Sue, good luck with the cushion clinic. What do you

sit on at the moment?

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Do you think you could find a vendor who would let you try out a Roho for a

few days? If you liked it, maybe you could bypass the OT and go directly to

your doctor for a prescription.

Lori

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>

> (big love and helloes to Lainie, and Sue, sorry for being such a

crap communicator)

Hey

I know what it's like when you're uncomfortable and everything's a big

effort. I can't believe your OT won't let you try the cushion you think may

work, that's not on. I would definitely kick off, lol!

I've been having probs sitting comfortably for a while, I've got an

appointment with a " Special Seating " clinic next week so we'll see what they

come up with. I'll get the " you need a moulded seat " speech but I don't

want that for the same reason as you, I still want to move a teeny bit :)

Tuftz

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Sorry for taking so long to reply, I've been in so much pain that I

was stuck in bed for a few days. Still no further along, the OT

seems to take a week to get back to me each time :(

I doubt whether my doc would be ok with a script as here (at least

what I know of it where I live in England) they expect cushions to

be assessed and funded for by the local Wheelchair Services. Plus,

my GP is just about next to useless, I go to them when I need

antibiotics when I am on my last gasp as they always try to fob me

off with, " Well, it's your disability, so we can't really give you

anything to help, it is what is to be expected " .

And now my overhead hoist has broken down with no repair until

Monday (they don't carry parts on their emergency vans - ha!), so my

poor b/f is struggling with a very rusty, heavy old hydraulic one.

But thank you for your help - it's nice to know I am not alone :)

> ,

>

> Do you think you could find a vendor who would let you try out a

Roho for a

> few days? If you liked it, maybe you could bypass the OT and go

directly to

> your doctor for a prescription.

>

> Lori

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