Guest guest Posted September 17, 2002 Report Share Posted September 17, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 12:08:43 AM Central Daylight Time, kingibexx@... writes: > I mean if > someone was going down the street and said " hey look at that gimpy crip in > the wheelchair! " Would that be alright? I guess it also has to deal with > the > porn sites that are out there. " Criptease, Cripplexxx, Gimpsex " There is > nothing sexual about those names of those sites, it is derogatory. It makes > > it sound freaky not sexy I knew I fell in love with you for a reason... Anyway, as we've already discussed - I completely agree. I'm a goddess because I'm beautiful and talented, not because I can't walk. If anyone ever referred to me as a gimp or cripple, I'd probably laugh and call them an ignorant asshole. So yeah, rock on with your non-gimp self, Will! =) -Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 I am a Gimp Goddess because I am perfect in my imperfection. I am an Ableist because I live my life doing the same things that AB's do without making a big deal about it. It's no big deal that I work two jobs, have two degrees, own my house and a vacation home on the coast, travel extensively, and am legally married; yet I've never walked or peed without someone putting me on the pot......not to mention grooming, dressing, feeding, etc. In the '80's and '90's, I'd probably be labeled a " Super Crip " . But, in my opinion, I'm just an average 44 yr. old woman. I don't let the fact that I have SMA Type I/II prevent me from pursuing the American Dream any more than I would let my eye color. I have personal expectations for myself. These expectations (or values for success) were taught to me by my parents. They threw me into the deep end of the pond at age 5 when they sent me to public school (without any Personal Aides or IEP's or Special Ed classrooms). I learned to overcome. And, in doing that, I grew up believing that I could go as far as my imagination and determination would take me. I had no disabled peers, so my goals in life where the same as my AB friends. I think that being an Ableist is positive when it illustrates that one's disability can take the back seat to one's potential. In my day to day interactions at work or with friends, my SMA never comes up. I've integrated into who I am. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 10:28:27 AM Central Daylight Time, VickiLJurney@... writes: > I think that being an Ableist > is positive when it illustrates that one's disability can take the back > seat > to one's potential. In my day to day interactions at work or with friends, > my > SMA never comes up. I've integrated into who I am. > That is good, some people never accept themselves. I've got a cousin who broke his back. He is a complete hermit, and tried to kill himself recently. It is sad. Now he spends his day doped up on meds for pain. never leaves, bought a house in the woods so he didn't have any neighbors. We have tried to get him off of the mountain, but it is no use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 2:09:10 PM Central Daylight Time, lynnie53@... writes: > first of all ppl on this list are " disabled " i am crippled, deformed, > crunched to the side from scoliosis, my legs nor arms work, and im very > vulnerable. thats the facts of life. crippled sex you ask why? why not? i > love love love sex! and my life without something so natural as sex would > be abnormal for me. my hunny helps me acheive many sexual desires of > mine. my hands dont work. i cannot masterbate, therefor someones gotta > release my tension. right? for many many years i've been trying to figure > out a way around the partner thing, i'd prefer to do it myself and, > unfortionatly i cannot. xxxcripsex rock on! i wish there were more > books/websites ect. accessible for those of us who are out of ideas > because being disabled limits options for position and techniques, it is > humane to have sex, make love, or just plain fuck, life would be boring I think you misunderstood me, I am not downplaying the sex part just the name's of the sites, not very sexy names. > if otherwise... > > and why is it so offensive to use the word gimpy/crip? > we are! if you are not d/a and use those words in a mean hurtful way your > wrong, but being gimpy i've got rights to the word. > > > it is offensive to me because if other people used the terms it would be offensive. Its not cute to toss around gimp and crip. The same thing as black people tossing around nigger to themselves. I mean think about it, I'm going to start a web site called " niggersex.com " doesn't sound all the nice does it? Homesexual's use fag. dOesn't make it right. Its offensive. We are what we are. HUMAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/02 12:08:43 AM Central Daylight Time, kingibexx@... writes: > > It's like two gay men calling eachother Fags.... If a strange hero guy of the street calls a gay guy he doesn't know a fag it is seen as negative. But when two gay men call eachother a fag or a close friend of a gay man it is seen as okay to most. Or haven't you ever seen to black people call eachothe niggers? Or Bro's? Now if I said that as a white person I'd be seen as racist.... In my GLBT class we learned that homosexuals have " taken back " terms (like fag, queer.) and symbols (triangle used by nazis) that were used as away to label or criticize them and turned the power around. I think many groups have done this women, blacks .... Of course not all gays agree on if they like the word fag or queer so you should wait and see before tossing those terms around. Same goes for gimp and rip... I use gimp a lot but I don't like it coming from a stranger. From strangers I like disabled. I cringe and handicapped and cripple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 2:09:15 PM Central Daylight Time, lynnie53@... writes: > Vicki- > > you go girl! > > you rock! > > Thanks! But hey, I'm just like any other middle-aged married professional. I just work to pay bills and try to find time to spend " quality time " with my husband. Pretty normal life! Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/02 2:44:48 PM Central Daylight Time, kingibexx@... writes: > I am not downplaying the sex part just the > name's of the sites, not very sexy names. > > Do most trashy porn sites have sexy names tho? Is " Big Hooters " sexy? SeXXXy teens? Farm F*cking? Big Dicks In Small Chicks? Hairy Muffs? Cock Shots? Anal Asian Action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/02 2:44:48 PM Central Daylight Time, kingibexx@... writes: > . I mean think about it, I'm going > to start a web site called " niggersex.com " doesn't sound all the nice does > But they have sites like that ......they are not just targeting disabled. The nature of a lot of porn is degrading.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 3:11:33 PM Central Daylight Time, MsBYGthoughts@... writes: > It's niggA, used more as a slAng. Even Puerto Ricans call each other " Nigga " > it's how u say it. > ~s, the unique princess~ > > is there a ghetto dictionary somewhere, i have a few words I would like to look up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 2:09:39 PM Central Daylight Time, lynnie53@... writes: > are you disabled? and why is it so offensive to use the word gimpy/crip? > we are! if you are not d/a and use those words in a mean hurtful way your > wrong, but being gimpy i've got rights to the word. > No, he isn't disabled - his wife (me) is. =P However, I am neither a " gimp " or " crip " and find it a tad ridiculous to label someone with a name of such negative connotations. You say you have rights to the words... well, no, sorry I disagree. I'd be as offended, if not more, if a disabled person called me either. -Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 I totally agree, Amy! Kathie In a message dated 9/18/02 4:18:42 PM Central Daylight Time, blueyedaze@... writes: > No, he isn't disabled - his wife (me) is. =P However, I am neither a " gimp " > > or " crip " and find it a tad ridiculous to label someone with a name of such > > negative connotations. You say you have rights to the words... well, no, > sorry I disagree. I'd be as offended, if not more, if a disabled person > called me either. > > -Amy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/02 4:53:29 PM Central Daylight Time, esma1999@... writes: > So, we each have our own standards. So, yes I have the right to call > myself a gimp goddess. And you have the right not to! > > Why can't you just call yourself a goddess? A goddess is a goddess! Why does it have to be qualified with the word gimp? Kathie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 will- first of all ppl on this list are " disabled " i am crippled, deformed, crunched to the side from scoliosis, my legs nor arms work, and im very vulnerable. thats the facts of life. crippled sex you ask why? why not? i love love love sex! and my life without something so natural as sex would be abnormal for me. my hunny helps me acheive many sexual desires of mine. my hands dont work. i cannot masterbate, therefor someones gotta release my tension. right? for many many years i've been trying to figure out a way around the partner thing, i'd prefer to do it myself and, unfortionatly i cannot. xxxcripsex rock on! i wish there were more books/websites ect. accessible for those of us who are out of ideas because being disabled limits options for position and techniques, it is humane to have sex, make love, or just plain fuck, life would be boring if otherwise... p.s. are you disabled? and why is it so offensive to use the word gimpy/crip? we are! if you are not d/a and use those words in a mean hurtful way your wrong, but being gimpy i've got rights to the word. jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 Vicki- you go girl! you rock! jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 5:54:51 PM Central Daylight Time, Grassberry@... writes: > Why can't you just call yourself a goddess? I call myself a Gimp Goddess because I'm perfect in my imperfection. I am the embodiment of grace, beauty, intellect, charm, feminine sexuality, wit, and compassionate spirituality; however, I use a wheelchair and am (and always have been) dependent on others for my care. Still, I embrace my disability and love the person it has made me. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated Wed, 18 Sep 2002 2:44:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, esma1999 writes: > . Or haven't you ever seen to black people call eachothe > niggers It's niggA, used more as a slAng. Even Puerto Ricans call each other " Nigga " it's how u say it. ~s, the unique princess~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 Whatever floats your boat and gets you through life! In a message dated 9/18/02 7:03:24 PM Central Daylight Time, VickiLJurney@... writes: > I call myself a Gimp Goddess because I'm perfect in my imperfection. I am > the > embodiment of grace, beauty, intellect, charm, feminine sexuality, wit, and > > compassionate spirituality; however, I use a wheelchair and am (and always > have been) dependent on others for my care. Still, I embrace my disability > and love the person it has made me. > > Vicki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated Wed, 18 Sep 2002 3:22:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, kingibexx writes: > is there a ghetto dictionary somewhere, i have a few words > I would like to > look up What r da words? I probably know what they mean. ~s, the unique princess~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 7:14:00 PM Central Daylight Time, Grassberry@... writes: > Whatever floats your boat and gets you through life! > LOL.......Funny you should say that because this Saturday my boat is leaving on a 5-day cruise to Cozumel. Want to come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/02 8:12:17 PM Central Daylight Time, VickiLJurney@... writes: > LOL.......Funny you should say that because this Saturday my boat is leaving > > on a 5-day cruise to Cozumel. Want to come? > Thank you, but I'll decline this time. :-) Have a nice cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 But gimp is slang so is fag and queer..... I'm just saying it's only negative when used by an outsider.. > In a message dated Wed, 18 Sep 2002 2:44:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, esma1999 writes: > > > . Or haven't you ever seen to black people call eachothe > > niggers > > It's niggA, used more as a slAng. Even Puerto Ricans call each other " Nigga " it's how u say it. > ~s, the unique princess~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/2002 8:32:57 PM Central Daylight Time, Grassberry@... writes: > Have a nice cruise Thanks! , my husband, and I shall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 You say you have rights to the words... well, no, > sorry I disagree. I'd be as offended, if not more, if a disabled person > called me either. > > -Amy > Well, I find the words cripple and handicapped offensive. I hate signs that say " handicapped parking, door... " . I don't like cripple or handicapped because most who use it are " older " and still see the disabled as " special " or poor things. Or because Jerry uses those words LOL I don't like PC terms much better like physicaly challanged. Because many who use it like politicians use it to look like they care and understand what my life is like. When they don't. If you don't know me well call me disabled, physicaly disabled or just ! So, we each have our own standards. So, yes I have the right to call myself a gimp goddess. And you have the right not to! I never heard gimp used to mean " disabled " till a disabled person used it. To me most of my life gimp was used to make bracelets at day camp lol I bet many TABS don't know what a gimp is...Unlike cripple... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 If that is an Ablest then what's wrong with that? Don't we all want our disability to be seen as nothing more than our eye color etc? I guess nicole will answer.... I was thinkintg an ablest was someone who thinks you need to walk/ " be normal " to be happy. Like reeves or lewis? > I am a Gimp Goddess because I am perfect in my imperfection. I am an Ableist > because I live my life doing the same things that AB's do without making a > big deal about it. It's no big deal that I work two jobs, have two degrees, > own my house and a vacation home on the coast, travel extensively, and am > legally married; yet I've never walked or peed without someone putting me on > the pot......not to mention grooming, dressing, feeding, etc. In the '80's > and '90's, I'd probably be labeled a " Super Crip " . But, in my opinion, I'm > just an average 44 yr. old woman. I don't let the fact that I have SMA Type > I/II prevent me from pursuing the American Dream any more than I would let my > eye color. I have personal expectations for myself. These expectations (or > values for success) were taught to me by my parents. They threw me into the > deep end of the pond at age 5 when they sent me to public school (without any > Personal Aides or IEP's or Special Ed classrooms). I learned to overcome. > And, in doing that, I grew up believing that I could go as far as my > imagination and determination would take me. I had no disabled peers, so my > goals in life where the same as my AB friends. I think that being an Ableist > is positive when it illustrates that one's disability can take the back seat > to one's potential. In my day to day interactions at work or with friends, my > SMA never comes up. I've integrated into who I am. > > Vicki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2002 Report Share Posted September 18, 2002 In a message dated 9/18/02 5:54:39 PM Central Daylight Time, Grassberry@... writes: > > Why can't you just call yourself a goddess? A goddess is a goddess! Why > does it have to be qualified with the word gimp? > > Well, I'm not ashamed of being a gimp. Or a woman, or polish German American, or Aries, or white, or auburn, curly haired..... Why not just call us human? Let's stop using all labels huh? Like heterosexual, homosexual, fag, gay, woman, man, chick, guy, black, white, African American...we are all just human! But we use labels all the time... everyday... no one will ever agree on what's ok and what's not. That's why I said don't call a stranger a gimp, fag or whatever till you know how they feel. Just respect others views. I don't think you have a right to say to me that calling myself a gimp is wrong anymore than me telling you to use the word gimp. I know more disabled who " accept " or use gimp or crip than don't.... It's not like I go around yelling I'm a Gimp! Looky I'm a Gimp! lol I use it where most will understand how I mean it. Or I use it with non disabled and most smile when I call my self a " gimp goddess " cuz it shows I'm fine with my disability and not denying or hiding it. It also shows that I feel I am still as much a woman/sexy even though I'm disabled. It also lets some tension when people are afraid to ask about my disability or when they struggle to find a term say about being disabled (handicapped, uniquely able, differently able...) It's an ice breaker that's all. It's not so much what term you use but who uses it and how..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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