WRONG MESSAGE Re: IMVA - Calling for Heroes - June 26, 2005

[Guest guest]

maybe we should focus on thimerosal for now. if we

succeed in getting that removed, then we can raise

concerns about the aluminum and formaldehyde.

--- " M. Webster " <jwebs94@...> wrote:

> I too am anti vaccine.

> its not JUST thimerosal causing all the auto-immune

> disorders in the

> words --though I am sure they is some synergy to the

> virus and the metal

> mix. But there are other deadly toxins in there.

> Would you honestly shoot

> your self up with aluminum? or antifreeze or

> formaldehyde?

>

> Mass vaccination should be abandoned for focused

> vaccination.

> I say again, according to the CDC's own numbers

> vaccines have only added 1.5

> years onto our life span.

> Hep B has MS listed on its label as a possible side

> effect (well, they claim

> just b/c it HAS happened doesn't make it causal)

> Lyme disease vaccine was

> found to cause RA in like 30 to 40% of the

> population (interesting nugget of

> info... do a internet search for this gem, turns out

> a simple --but pricey

> ($400) test would have prevented the RA)

> Vaccines are misguided.

>

> THIS IS MY EDUCATED OPINION.

> 1.5 years onto our life span --traded for a life

> time of chronic illness.

>

> NO THANK YOU.

> I had a well respected bio professor (and neighbor!)

> who would often talk

> about this link --something about cancer cells

> having these certain virus

> markers on them. I think about that often and wish

> he was still alive.

> He'd have been a wonderful ally.

> --nah...

> Wash your hands with soap and water (NOT

> ANTIBACTERIAL) and eat healthy, it

> will take much further than any vaccine. Too bad I

> didn't know the before

> joining the army and getting injected with tons of

> CRAP, and then willingly

> letting them shoot me up again when they lost my

> records.

>

> My youngest will never be vaccinated. Vaccines are

> NOT preventive medicine.

> they are sheer laziness.

>

> [ M. Webster]

>

> WRONG MESSAGE Re: IMVA - Calling

> for Heroes - June 26,

> 2005

>

>

> I am without a doubt anti-vaccine. I have not

> forgotten that

> thimerisol is not the only toxic sustance in

> vaccines. When, and if

> they take the thimerisol out, what will they

> replace it with? What

> about the aluminum. Will it take another ten years

> to get them to

> take that poison out. My feeling is the only safe

> vaccine, is no

> vacine.

>

> Peggy

>

>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Calling for Heroes

> > > International Medical Veritas Association

> > >

> > >

> > > I am not sure if anyone of us realizes the

> significance of

> > recent events

> > > in the thimerosal battle. Most of us know that

> a great part of

> the

> > subject

> > > is not medical but political. Thus it is

> highly significant that

> > finally a

> > > person from a famous political family has

> stepped up to fight

> > against the

> > > medical industrial complex. Whenever anyone

> confronts any part of

> > the

> > > vaccine story one comes up against this

> megalithic power complex.

> > When it

> > > comes to most of the people in the

> anti-vaccination movement the

> > powers that

> > > be could care less who we are and what we say

> because all of us

> put

> > together

> > > have had little impact on the vaccination

> rates, which have gone

> up

> > not

> > > down.

> > >

> > > When a person with the stature of a

> Kennedy steps up to the

> > plate

> > > people get murdered. I was ten years old when

> Kennedy was

> shot

> > and I

> > > can remember that day better than yesterday.

> Something changed in

> > America on

> > > that day. Darkness settled upon the land, one

> that has only grown

> > thicker

> > > through the years. Today we think of nothing

> to go to war for

> bold

> > lies from

> > > a president, vice-president and cabinet who

> seem to be the front

> > men and

> > > women of a dark force. And certain people

> think nothing of

> > injecting poison

> > > in our own kids and exporting the same to the

> children of the

> > world. The

> > > American medical establishment has become a

> disgrace to the

> entire

> > human

> > > race and their cruelty of intellect will be

> remembered with

> horror

> > for a

> > > long time.

> > >

> > > I am sure that and Kennedy

> are smiling in heaven

> > at the

> > > progeny of their family. F. Kennedy Jr.

> is carrying on the

> > family

> > > tradition showing us what this family is

> really made of. I can

> > imagine

> > > on his PT boat in the Second World War and I

> can see

> > fighting an even

> > > more difficult battle against this cruel

> medical consciousness

> that

> > has

> > > taken over the world. Unbelievably to anyone

> who has studied the

> > matter, the

> > > medical establishment has adopted a type of

> mindset that

> justifies

> > the use

> > > of the most deadly nerve poison ever

> formulated in childhood

> > vaccines and

> > > other medical products. It is truly difficult

> to calculate the

> > depth of

> > > courage of this man considering what happened

> to his father and

> > uncle.

> > > Bearing in mind the historic importance of the

> decision that

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Barb,

When you consuder how long it took to bring the thimerisol issue into

the light, its unlikely any of us will live that long. LOL

Peggy

sibarbbaarb

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Calling for Heroes

> > > > International Medical Veritas Association

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am not sure if anyone of us realizes the

> > significance of

> > > recent events

> > > > in the thimerosal battle. Most of us know that

> > a great part of

> > the

> > > subject

> > > > is not medical but political. Thus it is

> > highly significant that

> > > finally a

> > > > person from a famous political family has

> > stepped up to fight

> > > against the

> > > > medical industrial complex. Whenever anyone

> > confronts any part of

> > > the

> > > > vaccine story one comes up against this

> > megalithic power complex.

> > > When it

> > > > comes to most of the people in the

> > anti-vaccination movement the

> > > powers that

> > > > be could care less who we are and what we say

> > because all of us

> > put

> > > together

> > > > have had little impact on the vaccination

> > rates, which have gone

> > up

> > > not

> > > > down.

> > > >

> > > > When a person with the stature of a

> > Kennedy steps up to the

> > > plate

> > > > people get murdered. I was ten years old when

> > Kennedy was

> > shot

> > > and I

> > > > can remember that day better than yesterday.

> > Something changed in

> > > America on

> > > > that day. Darkness settled upon the land, one

> > that has only grown

> > > thicker

> > > > through the years. Today we think of nothing

> > to go to war for

> > bold

> > > lies from

> > > > a president, vice-president and cabinet who

> > seem to be the front

> > > men and

> > > > women of a dark force. And certain people

> > think nothing of

> > > injecting poison

> > > > in our own kids and exporting the same to the

> > children of the

> > > world. The

> > > > American medical establishment has become a

> > disgrace to the

> > entire

> > > human

> > > > race and their cruelty of intellect will be

> > remembered with

> > horror

> > > for a

> > > > long time.

> > > >

> > > > I am sure that and Kennedy

> > are smiling in heaven

> > > at the

> > > > progeny of their family. F. Kennedy Jr.

> > is carrying on the

> > > family

> > > > tradition showing us what this family is

> > really made of. I can

> > > imagine

> > > > on his PT boat in the Second World War and I

> > can see

> > > fighting an even

> > > > more difficult battle against this cruel

> > medical consciousness

> > that

> > > has

> > > > taken over the world. Unbelievably to anyone

> > who has studied the

> > > matter, the

> > > > medical establishment has adopted a type of

> > mindset that

> > justifies

> > > the use

> > > > of the most deadly nerve poison ever

> > formulated in childhood

> > > vaccines and

> > > > other medical products. It is truly difficult

> > to calculate the

> > > depth of

> > > > courage of this man considering what happened

> > to his father and

> > > uncle.

> > > > Bearing in mind the historic importance of the

> > decision that

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

I too am anti vaccine.

its not JUST thimerosal causing all the auto-immune disorders in the words --though I am sure they is some synergy to the virus and the metal mix. But there are other deadly toxins in there. Would you honestly shoot your self up with aluminum? or antifreeze or formaldehyde?

Mass vaccination should be abandoned for focused vaccination.

I say again, according to the CDC's own numbers vaccines have only added 1.5 years onto our life span.

Hep B has MS listed on its label as a possible side effect (well, they claim just b/c it HAS happened doesn't make it causal) Lyme disease vaccine was found to cause RA in like 30 to 40% of the population (interesting nugget of info... do a internet search for this gem, turns out a simple --but pricey ($400) test would have prevented the RA)

Vaccines are misguided.

THIS IS MY EDUCATED OPINION.

1.5 years onto our life span --traded for a life time of chronic illness.

NO THANK YOU.

I had a well respected bio professor (and neighbor!) who would often talk about this link --something about cancer cells having these certain virus markers on them. I think about that often and wish he was still alive. He'd have been a wonderful ally.

--nah...

Wash your hands with soap and water (NOT ANTIBACTERIAL) and eat healthy, it will take much further than any vaccine. Too bad I didn't know the before joining the army and getting injected with tons of CRAP, and then willingly letting them shoot me up again when they lost my records.

My youngest will never be vaccinated. Vaccines are NOT preventive medicine. they are sheer laziness.

[ M. Webster]

-----Original Message-----From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ]On Behalf Of Peggy RoseSent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:51 PMEOHarm Subject: WRONG MESSAGE Re: IMVA - Calling for Heroes - June 26, 2005

I am without a doubt anti-vaccine. I have not forgotten that thimerisol is not the only toxic sustance in vaccines. When, and if they take the thimerisol out, what will they replace it with? What about the aluminum. Will it take another ten years to get them to take that poison out. My feeling is the only safe vaccine, is no vacine.Peggy> > > > > > > > Calling for Heroes> > International Medical Veritas Association> > > > > > I am not sure if anyone of us realizes the significance of > recent events> > in the thimerosal battle. Most of us know that a great part of the > subject> > is not medical but political. Thus it is highly significant that > finally a> > person from a famous political family has stepped up to fight > against the> > medical industrial complex. Whenever anyone confronts any part of > the> > vaccine story one comes up against this megalithic power complex. > When it> > comes to most of the people in the anti-vaccination movement the > powers that> > be could care less who we are and what we say because all of us put > together> > have had little impact on the vaccination rates, which have gone up > not> > down.> > > > When a person with the stature of a Kennedy steps up to the > plate> > people get murdered. I was ten years old when Kennedy was shot > and I> > can remember that day better than yesterday. Something changed in > America on> > that day. Darkness settled upon the land, one that has only grown > thicker> > through the years. Today we think of nothing to go to war for bold > lies from> > a president, vice-president and cabinet who seem to be the front > men and> > women of a dark force. And certain people think nothing of > injecting poison> > in our own kids and exporting the same to the children of the > world. The> > American medical establishment has become a disgrace to the entire > human> > race and their cruelty of intellect will be remembered with horror > for a> > long time.> > > > I am sure that and Kennedy are smiling in heaven > at the> > progeny of their family. F. Kennedy Jr. is carrying on the > family> > tradition showing us what this family is really made of. I can > imagine > > on his PT boat in the Second World War and I can see > fighting an even> > more difficult battle against this cruel medical consciousness that > has> > taken over the world. Unbelievably to anyone who has studied the > matter, the> > medical establishment has adopted a type of mindset that justifies > the use> > of the most deadly nerve poison ever formulated in childhood > vaccines and> > other medical products. It is truly difficult to calculate the > depth of> > courage of this man considering what happened to his father and > uncle.> > Bearing in mind the historic importance of the decision that needs > to be> > made by the human race - to either continue to poison its children > or to> > finally stop – we should all take a moment to reflect on what our > role needs> > to be in this titanic struggle.> > > > Politically can you imagine the difference between having a > president> > who would fight against the deliberate poisoning of children and > one who> > will not lift a finger to stop it? President Bush and his family > and many of> > his friends are deeply involved with the company that created, > marketed and> > lied about thimerosal, a company that will probably be recorded in > the> > history books as the company that killed babies.[1] Bush signed a > document> > concerning thimerosal during the last election after Kerry did but > true to> > form seemed to have forgotten it, so busy is he in war and killing. > When it> > comes to children his promises do not go far. Perhaps he will > remember and> > we will rejoice.> > > > Many of us have abandoned politics a long time ago in disgust > for many> > reasons, the primary one being that we have not been able to see > significant> > differences between the major political parties. When it comes to > certain> > questions like vaccines and health care both parties have supported > medical> > horrors and a medical system that has penetrated society to the > point of> > becoming a mean sucking money machine that causes more death and > disease> > than it could ever hope to prevent today. It is sickening but true > that both> > political parties have taken money from Eli Lilly and Company, > which has> > given $3,397,535 dollars to candidates for federal office between > the years> > 1989 and 2004.[2]> > > > Personally I would love to see Hillary Clinton step up to the > microphone> > and tell us how wrong she has been about medicine. I would like to > hear her> > thank Kennedy for waking everyone up and for coming to the aid of > the world'> > s children. Then I might have some hope for America. Then I could > see her as> > the first woman president. But if she doesn't, if she stands aside > and> > continues with the same ignorance of medical matters that Jimmy > and> > his wife dabbled in, and that Bill Gates and his wife lavish in, > then the> > entire hope of America's return to the light of goodness lies with > > > Kennedy.> > > > Kennedy has entered a battle without exit. He has raised his > banners on> > the field of childhood vaccines and is charging across the > landscape to meet> > some of the cruelest medical intellects the world has ever seen. > Certain men> > and women in the American medical establishment carry on the legacy > of the> > Nazi doctors and pharmaceutical companies that both built and ran > Auschwitz> > concentration camp[3], men and women who see nothing wrong with > injecting> > day old babies with thimerosal. The doctors at Auschwitz[4] did > about every> > nasty thing you can imagine but I do not think they injected > newborns with> > poisons to see what would happen with them.> > > > The Russians were smart and humane enough to stop this medical > madness> > twenty years ago and even the veterinarians had enough compassion > for the> > animals to stop using thimerosal many years ago. But pediatricians > have been> > branded in medical school with what can only be seen as a cruel > ignorance> > that makes them the enemies of children everywhere.> > I think America is being given one more chance. It can redeem > itself if> > it can come clean about the poisoning of the children of the world > or it can> > continue to sponsor the worst kind of biomedical terrorism the > world has> > ever known. Kennedy is the one who has stepped forward with the > banner and> > is heading over the hill into the line and fire. Let's call on > Hillary to go> > over that hill with him or ask her to go into early retirement.> > > > While we are at it lets invite the entire political community to > forget> > about the hands that feed them and go over that hill. Especially > Senator> > Bill Frist who I hear from good sources has apologized for the > rider he had> > put in the original Homeland Security Act,[5] which was designed to > protect> > the Eli Lilly Company from liability for what they have done to > children. It> > was very good to hear that an important politician like Frist said > he would> > do nothing further to hurt the children. In an ideal world it would > be nice> > to see someone like Clinton fundamentally change her beliefs > about> > medicine and it would be ecstatic to see the entire political > community rush> > to save the integrity of the United States by vowing to protect the > children> > at all cost, first from deliberate mercury poisoning, and then from > a host> > of other chemical toxicities that are destroying their futures.> > Let's declare the major issue of the next presidential campaign > right> > now. It has to be the children. We have to not only protect them > from> > further harm from mercury in vaccines, dental products and power > emissions,> > but we have to harness the nation's resources to right the > horrendous wrong> > done. When the CDC finally comes clean and admits that mercury has > damaged a> > generation of children, the medical community can go into high gear > with> > treatments that can recover these children saving literally > trillions of> > dollars that America no longer has.> > > > Perhaps we should even offer full amnesty for those doctors and > medical> > officials who repent in the next year and who dedicate their lives > to> > reducing the terrible suffering caused. And perhaps new prisons > should be> > built to house all those stubborn in their arrogance who don't give > a damn> > for the lives of the children meaning they would continue to > support what> > only the worst drug pushers are guilty of. Pushing dangerous drugs > on> > children is a crime. It's more than a crime; it's an abomination of > the> > worst possible kind.> > > > Mark Sircus Ac., OMD> > Director International Medical Veritas Association> > http://www.detoxchelationclinic.com> > http://www.imva.info> > http://www.worldpsychology.net> > > > > > Reader Comments> > I agree with you about Hillary; a powerful, intelligent woman in her> > position on the side of justice for our children is exactly what we> > desperately need right now. That is also what is essential to > awaken heart> > and hope in her limpid political party, and playing the usual man's > game> > will get Hillary nowhere. Women who generally tend to be > suspicious of her> > power would flock to her support, particularly the young idealistic > ones and> > the mothers with children being offered on the chopping block of > blind> > corporate greed. Only a politician with heart combined with > piercing> > intelligence to know and face the truth can hope to make a change > in the> > totally destructive path the world is currently on, and I believe > it must be> > a woman.> > > > Dr. Jaquelyn McCandeless> > > > > > > > > > [1] For more than sixty years the medical community simply > trusted the> > Eli Lilly Company's assertion that thimerosal/merthiolate had a low> > potential toxicity if injected into humans. Based on unscientific > and> > unethical studies done in the late nineteen twenties, several > generations of> > public health care officials, doctors and medical educators were > duped into> > injecting the most toxic and lethal chemical known to man into > infants.> > Documents from the archives of Eli Lilly & Company, the original> > manufacturer of thimerosal, clearly demonstrates that the mercury-> based> > vaccine preservative, implicated in a number of recent law suits as > causing> > neurological injury to infants, was known as early as April 1930 to > be> > dangerous.> > > > [2] The numbers are based on contributions from PACs and > individuals giving> > $200 or more. All donations were made during the 1989-2004 election > cycles> > and were released by the Federal Election Commission.> > http://www.Opensecrets.org> > > > [3] The people who bring you your Bayer Aspirin are the same> > folks who built and ran the Auschwitz Concentration Camp.> > > > Auschwitz was the largest mass extermination factory in human > history.> > Few people know that Auschwitz was a 100% subsidiary of IG Farben > which now> > lives on as the Bayer Aspirin Company. On April 14, 1941, in > Ludwigshafen,> > Otto Armbrust, the IG Farben board member responsible for the > Auschwitz> > project, stated to his IG Farben board colleagues, "our new > friendship with> > the SS is a blessing. We have determined all measures integrating > the> > concentration camps to benefit our company." The pharmaceutical > departments> > of the IG Farben cartel used the victims of the concentration camps > in their> > own way: thousands of them died during human experiments such as > the testing> > of new vaccines.> > > > Bayer experimental drugs were tested on Auschwitz prisoners.> > One of the SS doctors at Auschwitz, Dr. Helmut Vetter, a longtime > Bayer> > employee, was> > involved in the testing of Bayer experimental vaccines and > medicines on> > inmates.> > He was later executed for giving inmates fatal injections. "I have > thrown> > myself into my> > work wholeheartedly," he wrote to his bosses at Bayer headquarters.> > "Especially as> > I have the opportunity to test our new preparations. I feel like I > am in> > paradise."> > > > The pharmaceutical and chemical giant I.G. Farben attempted to > shake> > its abominable image through corporate restructuring and renaming > after> > World War II and they succeeded beyond their wildest imagination. > So great> > has been their success that the public has no idea that many of the > men who> > were responsible for the worst atrocities known to mankind were > able to> > carry on their work despite the demise of the Nazi regime. The > story of> > pharmaceutical terrorism is the story of such men, which are the > same men> > who are most responsible for creating the modern medical paradigm > that> > relies almost exclusively on drugs of highly toxic and poisonous > natures.> > These men were in control of the large chemical and pharmaceutical > companies> > well before Hitler reached puberty and were around well after his > death.> > > > I've never met a drug yet, including aspirin,> > that didn't have some side effects.> > Dr. > Arthur> > Caplan> > > > The Nuremberg War Criminal Tribunal convicted 24 IG Farben > board> > members and executives on the basis of mass murder, slavery and > other crimes> > against humanity. Amazingly however, by 1951 all of them had > already been> > released, continuing to consult with German corporations. The > Nuremberg> > Tribunal dissolved the IG Farben into Bayer, Hoechst, and BASF. > Today each> > of the three daughters of the IG Farben is 20 times as big as the > IG Farben> > mother was at its height at the end of the Second World War. More> > importantly, for almost three decades after the Second World War, > BASF,> > Bayer and Hoechst (now Aventis) each filled its highest position, > chairman> > of the board, with former members of the Nazi regime.> > > > By accepted legal standards, the Bayer Company of today is, in > fact, the> > Bayer of> > World War II. As such it is being sued by survivors of medical > experiments> > such as Eva Kor> > who with her sister survived the most terrible experiences at the > hand of> > one of the most> > terrible medical monsters who ever lived, Dr. f Mengele at > Auschwitz> > > > In 1998, the pharmaceutical giant, Bayer, conducted pesticide> > experiments on humans in what was called the Inveresk trials. Three > years> > later the company behind the tests stands accused of breaking the > Nuremberg> > Code. The Sunday Herald in England reported that subjects were > given a> > single dose of a substance called azinphos-methyl (AM) and then > observed for> > seven days. This is just the tip of the iceberg that shows the > kinds of> > attitudes that have always been a part of pharmaceutical companies > like> > Lilly which lied about the safety of thimerosal in the 1930's and > then> > proceeded to put its mercury based compound `almost' secretly into > vaccines> > and many other medical products for decades without interference > from the> > FDA.> > > > Nazi doctors and scientists at Auschwitz were called> > the "ultimate biological warriors," by Dr. Jay Lifton> > for their acts of carrying out Nazism's extreme racial eugenics.> > > > The tradition lives on, and many of the techniques are the > same. All of> > this is important when looking for medical truth and sanity because > it is> > exactly that which was abandoned by the pharmaceutical and chemical > giants> > in the beginning of the 20th century. It is a historic fact that it > was the> > Rockefeller-Farben industrial complexes that were instrumental in > fostering> > chemical-based drug treatment as the basis for health care, and > true to form> > they have been the dominant adversaries against safer non-drug > treatments.> > When D. Rockefeller interlocked his American-based, > international> > empire with that of I.G. Farben in 1928 "there was created the > largest and> > most powerful cartel the world has ever known. Not only has that > cartel> > survived through the years, it has grown and prospered. Today it > plays a> > major role in both the science and politics of cancer therapy," > wrote G.> > in a World Without Cancer and The Politics of Cancer > Therapy.> > > > [4] In the concentration camp there was no one who wielded terror > like the> > Nazi doctor. He was the ultimate indecent man. Under the hands of > doctors'> > innocent men, women, and children were gassed, poisoned, frozen to > death,> > and vivisected. They were injected with typhus and malaria. They > were> > exposed to mustard gas, killed in high-pressure chambers, injected > with> > lethal bacteria like gangrene and tetanus, injected with salt water,> > forcibly sterilized during fast and bloody operations, infected with> > jaundice, deliberately poisoned, exposed to incendiary bombs, and > literally> > skinned, among other horrors, like forced sterilizations, > hypothermia tests> > that killed human subjects, deliberately injecting tuberculosis > bacteria in> > children, forced abortions, as well as lethal injections to kill > sick> > prisoners. "Psychologically speaking, nothing is darker or more > menacing, or> > harder to accept, than the participation of physicians in mass > murder" wrote> > Dr. Jay Lifton of the Nuremberg Commission.> > > > [5] Bruce Levine. Eli Lilly, Zyprexa, & the Bush Family. In 2002, > Eli Lilly> > flexed its muscles at the highest level of the U.S. government in an> > audacious Lillygate. The event was the signing of the Homeland > Security Act,> > praised by President W. Bush as a "heroic action" that > demonstrated> > "the resolve of this great nation to defend our freedom, our > security and> > our way of life." Soon after the Act was signed, New York Times > columnist> > Bob Herbert discovered what had been slipped into the Act at the > last minute> > and on November 25, 2002, he wrote, "Buried in this massive bill, > snuck into> > it in the dark of night by persons unknown…was a provision> > that—incredibly—will protect Eli Lilly and a few other big > pharmaceutical> > outfits from lawsuits by parents who believe their children were > harmed by> > thimerosal." http://zmagsite.zmag.org/May2004/levinepr0504.html

[Guest guest]

let me reply to you , after shooting off my last email --just b/c I am very anti vaccine, does not mean I let that be the message.

I always speak about the mercury and we all should.

If I am asking flat out I tell them first and foremost the link needs to me acknowledged so kids can get the bio-medical help they need.

THEN we need to get mercury out of vaccines, fillings, any product AND the environment.

If that doesn't make the question go away I discuss how we need stricter standards for our vaccines, I mention to other crap in them, the fact we do no long term testing etc.

I say WHEN vaccines are safe and smart (like no anthrax on kids, etc), I would most certainly reconsider.

-----Original Message-----From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ]On Behalf Of NanstielSent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:04 PMEOHarm Subject: WRONG MESSAGE Re: IMVA - Calling for Heroes - June 26, 2005Your hard-lined stance is a dangerous one to take. It is ONE thing to get the medical community and the public to accept the need for SAFER vaccines...and a revamped pediatric vaccination schedule...but it is quite another to rebel against the concept of vaccination altogether. Taking that stance is sure to LOSE.But I hear ya. My daughter was severely damaged by her vaccines. However, I see the benefit of battling preventable diseases. What we need is to revamp the system. Share the safety data...and open the pharma to litigation. Let's do everything humanly possible to make these vaccines (and the pediatric schedule) as safe as possible.And absolutely...we MUST take mercury out of the vaccines we ship overseas. Third world countries are still getting the full amount of thimerosal... @ FAIR Autism Mediahttp://www.autismmedia.org/> > > > > > > > > > > > Calling for Heroes> > > International Medical Veritas Association> > > > > > > > > I am not sure if anyone of us realizes the significance of > > recent events> > > in the thimerosal battle. Most of us know that a great part of > the > > subject> > > is not medical but political. Thus it is highly significant that > > finally a> > > person from a famous political family has stepped up to fight > > against the> > > medical industrial complex. Whenever anyone confronts any part of > > the> > > vaccine story one comes up against this megalithic power complex. > > When it> > > comes to most of the people in the anti-vaccination movement the > > powers that> > > be could care less who we are and what we say because all of us > put > > together> > > have had little impact on the vaccination rates, which have gone > up > > not> > > down.> > > > > > When a person with the stature of a Kennedy steps up to the > > plate> > > people get murdered. I was ten years old when Kennedy was > shot > > and I> > > can remember that day better than yesterday. Something changed in > > America on> > > that day. Darkness settled upon the land, one that has only grown > > thicker> > > through the years. Today we think of nothing to go to war for > bold > > lies from> > > a president, vice-president and cabinet who seem to be the front > > men and> > > women of a dark force. And certain people think nothing of > > injecting poison> > > in our own kids and exporting the same to the children of the > > world. The> > > American medical establishment has become a disgrace to the > entire > > human> > > race and their cruelty of intellect will be remembered with > horror > > for a> > > long time.> > > > > > I am sure that and Kennedy are smiling in heaven > > at the> > > progeny of their family. F. Kennedy Jr. is carrying on the > > family> > > tradition showing us what this family is really made of. I can > > imagine > > > on his PT boat in the Second World War and I can see > > fighting an even> > > more difficult battle against this cruel medical consciousness > that > > has> > > taken over the world. Unbelievably to anyone who has studied the > > matter, the> > > medical establishment has adopted a type of mindset that > justifies > > the use> > > of the most deadly nerve poison ever formulated in childhood > > vaccines and> > > other medical products. It is truly difficult to calculate the > > depth of> > > courage of this man considering what happened to his father and > > uncle.> > > Bearing in mind the historic importance of the decision that > needs > > to be> > > made by the human race - to either continue to poison its > children > > or to> > > finally stop – we should all take a moment to reflect on what our > > role needs> > > to be in this titanic struggle.> > > > > > Politically can you imagine the difference between having a > > president> > > who would fight against the deliberate poisoning of children and > > one who> > > will not lift a finger to stop it? President Bush and his family > > and many of> > > his friends are deeply involved with the company that created, > > marketed and> > > lied about thimerosal, a company that will probably be recorded > in > > the> > > history books as the company that killed babies.[1] Bush signed a > > document> > > concerning thimerosal during the last election after Kerry did > but > > true to> > > form seemed to have forgotten it, so busy is he in war and > killing. > > When it> > > comes to children his promises do not go far. Perhaps he will > > remember and> > > we will rejoice.> > > > > > Many of us have abandoned politics a long time ago in > disgust > > for many> > > reasons, the primary one being that we have not been able to see > > significant> > > differences between the major political parties. When it comes to > > certain> > > questions like vaccines and health care both parties have > supported > > medical> > > horrors and a medical system that has penetrated society to the > > point of> > > becoming a mean sucking money machine that causes more death and > > disease> > > than it could ever hope to prevent today. It is sickening but > true > > that both> > > political parties have taken money from Eli Lilly and Company, > > which has> > > given $3,397,535 dollars to candidates for federal office between > > the years> > > 1989 and 2004.[2]> > > > > > Personally I would love to see Hillary Clinton step up to the > > microphone> > > and tell us how wrong she has been about medicine. I would like > to > > hear her> > > thank Kennedy for waking everyone up and for coming to the aid of > > the world'> > > s children. Then I might have some hope for America. Then I could > > see her as> > > the first woman president. But if she doesn't, if she stands > aside > > and> > > continues with the same ignorance of medical matters that Jimmy > > and> > > his wife dabbled in, and that Bill Gates and his wife lavish in, > > then the> > > entire hope of America's return to the light of goodness lies > with > > > > > Kennedy.> > > > > > Kennedy has entered a battle without exit. He has raised his > > banners on> > > the field of childhood vaccines and is charging across the > > landscape to meet> > > some of the cruelest medical intellects the world has ever seen. > > Certain men> > > and women in the American medical establishment carry on the > legacy > > of the> > > Nazi doctors and pharmaceutical companies that both built and ran > > Auschwitz> > > concentration camp[3], men and women who see nothing wrong with > > injecting> > > day old babies with thimerosal. The doctors at Auschwitz[4] did > > about every> > > nasty thing you can imagine but I do not think they injected > > newborns with> > > poisons to see what would happen with them.> > > > > > The Russians were smart and humane enough to stop this > medical > > madness> > > twenty years ago and even the veterinarians had enough compassion > > for the> > > animals to stop using thimerosal many years ago. But > pediatricians > > have been> > > branded in medical school with what can only be seen as a cruel > > ignorance> > > that makes them the enemies of children everywhere.> > > I think America is being given one more chance. It can > redeem > > itself if> > > it can come clean about the poisoning of the children of the > world > > or it can> > > continue to sponsor the worst kind of biomedical terrorism the > > world has> > > ever known. Kennedy is the one who has stepped forward with the > > banner and> > > is heading over the hill into the line and fire. Let's call on > > Hillary to go> > > over that hill with him or ask her to go into early retirement.> > > > > > While we are at it lets invite the entire political community > to > > forget> > > about the hands that feed them and go over that hill. Especially > > Senator> > > Bill Frist who I hear from good sources has apologized for the > > rider he had> > > put in the original Homeland Security Act,[5] which was designed > to > > protect> > > the Eli Lilly Company from liability for what they have done to > > children. It> > > was very good to hear that an important politician like Frist > said > > he would> > > do nothing further to hurt the children. In an ideal world it > would > > be nice> > > to see someone like Clinton fundamentally change her > beliefs > > about> > > medicine and it would be ecstatic to see the entire political > > community rush> > > to save the integrity of the United States by vowing to protect > the > > children> > > at all cost, first from deliberate mercury poisoning, and then > from > > a host> > > of other chemical toxicities that are destroying their futures.> > > Let's declare the major issue of the next presidential > campaign > > right> > > now. It has to be the children. We have to not only protect them > > from> > > further harm from mercury in vaccines, dental products and power > > emissions,> > > but we have to harness the nation's resources to right the > > horrendous wrong> > > done. When the CDC finally comes clean and admits that mercury > has > > damaged a> > > generation of children, the medical community can go into high > gear > > with> > > treatments that can recover these children saving literally > > trillions of> > > dollars that America no longer has.> > > > > > Perhaps we should even offer full amnesty for those doctors > and > > medical> > > officials who repent in the next year and who dedicate their > lives > > to> > > reducing the terrible suffering caused. And perhaps new prisons > > should be> > > built to house all those stubborn in their arrogance who don't > give > > a damn> > > for the lives of the children meaning they would continue to > > support what> > > only the worst drug pushers are guilty of. Pushing dangerous > drugs > > on> > > children is a crime. It's more than a crime; it's an abomination > of > > the> > > worst possible kind.> > > > > > Mark Sircus Ac., OMD> > > Director International Medical Veritas Association> > > http://www.detoxchelationclinic.com> > > http://www.imva.info> > > http://www.worldpsychology.net> > > > > > > > > Reader Comments> > > I agree with you about Hillary; a powerful, intelligent woman in > her> > > position on the side of justice for our children is exactly what > we> > > desperately need right now. That is also what is essential to > > awaken heart> > > and hope in her limpid political party, and playing the usual > man's > > game> > > will get Hillary nowhere. Women who generally tend to be > > suspicious of her> > > power would flock to her support, particularly the young > idealistic > > ones and> > > the mothers with children being offered on the chopping block of > > blind> > > corporate greed. Only a politician with heart combined with > > piercing> > > intelligence to know and face the truth can hope to make a change > > in the> > > totally destructive path the world is currently on, and I believe > > it must be> > > a woman.> > > > > > Dr. Jaquelyn McCandeless> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] For more than sixty years the medical community simply > > trusted the> > > Eli Lilly Company's assertion that thimerosal/merthiolate had a > low> > > potential toxicity if injected into humans. Based on unscientific > > and> > > unethical studies done in the late nineteen twenties, several > > generations of> > > public health care officials, doctors and medical educators were > > duped into> > > injecting the most toxic and lethal chemical known to man into > > infants.> > > Documents from the archives of Eli Lilly & Company, the original> > > manufacturer of thimerosal, clearly demonstrates that the mercury-> > based> > > vaccine preservative, implicated in a number of recent law suits > as > > causing> > > neurological injury to infants, was known as early as April 1930 > to > > be> > > dangerous.> > > > > > [2] The numbers are based on contributions from PACs and > > individuals giving> > > $200 or more. All donations were made during the 1989-2004 > election > > cycles> > > and were released by the Federal Election Commission.> > > http://www.Opensecrets.org> > > > > > [3] The people who bring you your Bayer Aspirin are the same> > > folks who built and ran the Auschwitz Concentration Camp.> > > > > > Auschwitz was the largest mass extermination factory in > human > > history.> > > Few people know that Auschwitz was a 100% subsidiary of IG Farben > > which now> > > lives on as the Bayer Aspirin Company. On April 14, 1941, in > > Ludwigshafen,> > > Otto Armbrust, the IG Farben board member responsible for the > > Auschwitz> > > project, stated to his IG Farben board colleagues, "our new > > friendship with> > > the SS is a blessing. We have determined all measures integrating > > the> > > concentration camps to benefit our company." The pharmaceutical > > departments> > > of the IG Farben cartel used the victims of the concentration > camps > > in their> > > own way: thousands of them died during human experiments such as > > the testing> > > of new vaccines.> > > > > > Bayer experimental drugs were tested on Auschwitz prisoners.> > > One of the SS doctors at Auschwitz, Dr. Helmut Vetter, a longtime > > Bayer> > > employee, was> > > involved in the testing of Bayer experimental vaccines and > > medicines on> > > inmates.> > > He was later executed for giving inmates fatal injections. "I > have > > thrown> > > myself into my> > > work wholeheartedly," he wrote to his bosses at Bayer > headquarters.> > > "Especially as> > > I have the opportunity to test our new preparations. I feel like > I > > am in> > > paradise."> > > > > > The pharmaceutical and chemical giant I.G. Farben attempted > to > > shake> > > its abominable image through corporate restructuring and renaming > > after> > > World War II and they succeeded beyond their wildest imagination. > > So great> > > has been their success that the public has no idea that many of > the > > men who> > > were responsible for the worst atrocities known to mankind were > > able to> > > carry on their work despite the demise of the Nazi regime. The > > story of> > > pharmaceutical terrorism is the story of such men, which are the > > same men> > > who are most responsible for creating the modern medical paradigm > > that> > > relies almost exclusively on drugs of highly toxic and poisonous > > natures.> > > These men were in control of the large chemical and > pharmaceutical > > companies> > > well before Hitler reached puberty and were around well after his > > death.> > > > > > I've never met a drug yet, including aspirin,> > > that didn't have some side effects.> > > Dr. > > Arthur> > > Caplan> > > > > > The Nuremberg War Criminal Tribunal convicted 24 IG Farben > > board> > > members and executives on the basis of mass murder, slavery and > > other crimes> > > against humanity. Amazingly however, by 1951 all of them had > > already been> > > released, continuing to consult with German corporations. The > > Nuremberg> > > Tribunal dissolved the IG Farben into Bayer, Hoechst, and BASF. > > Today each> > > of the three daughters of the IG Farben is 20 times as big as the > > IG Farben> > > mother was at its height at the end of the Second World War. More> > > importantly, for almost three decades after the Second World War, > > BASF,> > > Bayer and Hoechst (now Aventis) each filled its highest position, > > chairman> > > of the board, with former members of the Nazi regime.> > > > > > By accepted legal standards, the Bayer Company of today is, in > > fact, the> > > Bayer of> > > World War II. As such it is being sued by survivors of medical > > experiments> > > such as Eva Kor> > > who with her sister survived the most terrible experiences at the > > hand of> > > one of the most> > > terrible medical monsters who ever lived, Dr. f Mengele at > > Auschwitz> > > > > > In 1998, the pharmaceutical giant, Bayer, conducted > pesticide> > > experiments on humans in what was called the Inveresk trials. > Three > > years> > > later the company behind the tests stands accused of breaking the > > Nuremberg> > > Code. The Sunday Herald in England reported that subjects were > > given a> > > single dose of a substance called azinphos-methyl (AM) and then > > observed for> > > seven days. This is just the tip of the iceberg that shows the > > kinds of> > > attitudes that have always been a part of pharmaceutical > companies > > like> > > Lilly which lied about the safety of thimerosal in the 1930's and > > then> > > proceeded to put its mercury based compound `almost' secretly > into > > vaccines> > > and many other medical products for decades without interference > > from the> > > FDA.> > > > > > Nazi doctors and scientists at Auschwitz were called> > > the "ultimate biological warriors," by Dr. Jay Lifton> > > for their acts of carrying out Nazism's extreme racial eugenics.> > > > > > The tradition lives on, and many of the techniques are the > > same. All of> > > this is important when looking for medical truth and sanity > because > > it is> > > exactly that which was abandoned by the pharmaceutical and > chemical > > giants> > > in the beginning of the 20th century. It is a historic fact that > it > > was the> > > Rockefeller-Farben industrial complexes that were instrumental in > > fostering> > > chemical-based drug treatment as the basis for health care, and > > true to form> > > they have been the dominant adversaries against safer non-drug > > treatments.> > > When D. Rockefeller interlocked his American-based, > > international> > > empire with that of I.G. Farben in 1928 "there was created the > > largest and> > > most powerful cartel the world has ever known. Not only has that > > cartel> > > survived through the years, it has grown and prospered. Today it > > plays a> > > major role in both the science and politics of cancer therapy," > > wrote G.> > > in a World Without Cancer and The Politics of > Cancer > > Therapy.> > > > > > [4] In the concentration camp there was no one who wielded terror > > like the> > > Nazi doctor. He was the ultimate indecent man. Under the hands of > > doctors'> > > innocent men, women, and children were gassed, poisoned, frozen > to > > death,> > > and vivisected. They were injected with typhus and malaria. They > > were> > > exposed to mustard gas, killed in high-pressure chambers, > injected > > with> > > lethal bacteria like gangrene and tetanus, injected with salt > water,> > > forcibly sterilized during fast and bloody operations, infected > with> > > jaundice, deliberately poisoned, exposed to incendiary bombs, and > > literally> > > skinned, among other horrors, like forced sterilizations, > > hypothermia tests> > > that killed human subjects, deliberately injecting tuberculosis > > bacteria in> > > children, forced abortions, as well as lethal injections to kill > > sick> > > prisoners. "Psychologically speaking, nothing is darker or more > > menacing, or> > > harder to accept, than the participation of physicians in mass > > murder" wrote> > > Dr. Jay Lifton of the Nuremberg Commission.> > > > > > [5] Bruce Levine. Eli Lilly, Zyprexa, & the Bush Family. In > 2002, > > Eli Lilly> > > flexed its muscles at the highest level of the U.S. government in > an> > > audacious Lillygate. The event was the signing of the Homeland > > Security Act,> > > praised by President W. Bush as a "heroic action" that > > demonstrated> > > "the resolve of this great nation to defend our freedom, our > > security and> > > our way of life." Soon after the Act was signed, New York Times > > columnist> > > Bob Herbert discovered what had been slipped into the Act at the > > last minute> > > and on November 25, 2002, he wrote, "Buried in this massive bill, > > snuck into> > > it in the dark of night by persons unknown…was a provision> > > that—incredibly—will protect Eli Lilly and a few other big > > pharmaceutical> > > outfits from lawsuits by parents who believe their children were > > harmed by> > > thimerosal." http://zmagsite.zmag.org/May2004/levinepr0504.html