Why is it so difficult to get states to ban mercury in the vaccines?

[Guest guest]

I think the simple answer to the question of mercury being in the

vaccines is that the longer pharma can postpone taking it out the more

profit it generates,additionally why is banning mercury in vaccines on

a state level so difficult if there is no mercury in the vaccines?

The pharma lobbyists are paying off the politicians to rule against

removing mercury which they would not bother to do if it was not there.

[Guest guest]

I hate to say it, but I think it is a strategy to blur the autism

statistics. Within a couple of years after 1999 when the mercury

removal " suggestion " came out, official folks were popping up with

remarks about " see, we took out the mercury and autism is still

rising " and first, it was way to soon to see an impact and second,

children were still be vaxed with mercury containing vaccines.

The next bit was recommending flu vaccines to babies and pregnant

women. Mercury out, no mercury in, but we will just pretend it is

out and then we can keep pointing to rising autism numbers but they

aren't caused by mercury see...because we took the mercury out...see

and etc. etc. etc.

Did somebody sit down and carefully plot this all out? Dunno. I

think sometimes that people who do evil stuff like this are

pretending even to themselves that they aren't really doing what

they are doing. But the psychology of evil isn't really OT for this

list.

Deborah

> I think the simple answer to the question of mercury being in the

> vaccines is that the longer pharma can postpone taking it out the

more

> profit it generates,additionally why is banning mercury in

vaccines on

> a state level so difficult if there is no mercury in the vaccines?

> The pharma lobbyists are paying off the politicians to rule

against

> removing mercury which they would not bother to do if it was not

there.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have to agree - can any one of us ever fully trust the vaccine program again

after what

we have learned goes on " behind the scenes " ? It seems pretty obvious to me that

they will

go to great lengths to keep this hidden. The last thing they want is a sharp

decline in

reported cases. I suspect this has a lot to do with their decision not to ban

thimerisol

entirely. Trace levels have been shown to be quite a bit more than just " trace "

- and using

it during the manufacturing process, removing it at the end and marking it

" thimerisol-

free " doesn't make me feel all that secure either.

Sara

> Yes, I think the numbers should be dropping too. But giving the flu

> vaccine to pregnant women is particularly insidious and is a pretty

> good substitute for taking it out of Rhogam.

>

> We are just speculating, but my sense is that a clear and obvious

> drop at a certain date would have given incredible fuel to the

> lawsuits. Better a lot of kids should have their lives destroyed...

>

> I didn't write that. I didn't even think it.

>

> Deborah

[Guest guest]

I have to agree - can any one of us ever fully trust the vaccine program again

after what

we have learned goes on " behind the scenes " ? It seems pretty obvious to me that

they will

go to great lengths to keep this hidden. The last thing they want is a sharp

decline in

reported cases. I suspect this has a lot to do with their decision not to ban

thimerisol

entirely. Trace levels have been shown to be quite a bit more than just " trace "

- and using

it during the manufacturing process, removing it at the end and marking it

" thimerisol-

free " doesn't make me feel all that secure either.

Sara

> Yes, I think the numbers should be dropping too. But giving the flu

> vaccine to pregnant women is particularly insidious and is a pretty

> good substitute for taking it out of Rhogam.

>

> We are just speculating, but my sense is that a clear and obvious

> drop at a certain date would have given incredible fuel to the

> lawsuits. Better a lot of kids should have their lives destroyed...

>

> I didn't write that. I didn't even think it.

>

> Deborah

[Guest guest]

,

By doctors do you mean the AAP?

Blow off the panic assertion - they're going to panic when we tell

them what ethylmercury does to mice and primates.

I thought your bill already allows for the provision of a waiver due

to shortage of supply of thimerosal free by your Public Health, if not

amend it to say so.

Docs are opposed based on the possiblity of a shortage; the above

mentioned amendment would take care of that.

We need a ban because 25 micrograms is too high for a developing fetus

and infant.

$* & ^% the IOM. Just state " they have refused to look at the evidence

based science and are rife with conflicts of interest.

Bring in the highlights of the Baskin, Hornig and Burbacher studies;

causes cell death,alters DNA, replicated in mice given thimerosal,

twice as much inorganic mercury vs.methylmercury in the brains of

primates, etc.

since when do states like NY wait for the feds to do something???

Go kick their ass, and best of luck!

> Here are some of the questions or concerns some NYS officials had

with a ban

> on thimerosal (well, the ones they vocalized with us)

>

> - people would panic

> - pregnant women wouldn't get the flu shot and then get the flu

> - there wouldn't be enough flu shot for everyone

> - why are doctors so opposed to it?

> - why isn't the health dept. on board?

> - why do we need a ban if it's out of almost all vaccines anyway?

> - the IOM said it was safe

> - there is no proof that thimerosal causes autism

> - the federal gov't hasn't banned it

>

> I think one of the real reasons is --they think if there is a ban on

> Thimerosal, the public will want to know why, and then all the

parents with

> mercury injured children will sue the doctors, dept. of health, CDC, fed

> gov't, santa clause, etc.....

>

> DOCTORS in NY are AGAINST taking Thimerosal out of vaccines.

> They lobby against it. They want mercury in vaccines.

>

> Does this make sense?

>

> Anyone in California seen panic? what about the other states?

> btw- it really helped to talk about the other states and show UA ads

and the

> 2 full page ads from GR.

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