RE: What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?

[Guest guest]

Rates of new diagnoses in California have dropped over

something like 5 of the last 6 quarters in California.

There is documentation of similar decreases in Indiana as

well.

The CDC has the information to do nationwide surveillance

but remains strangely silent on the subject.

---- Original message ----

>Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:09 -0000

>From: " Craig Hansen " <craighansen@...>

>Subject: What about current vaccines and current

diagnosis rates?

>EOHarm

>

> I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,

> and knowing the

> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but

> now that current

> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing

> a precipitous

> drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest

> cohorts? It doesn't

> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis

> rates reported in

> California.

>

> ----------------------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

HI

Actually it has been quite rocky the past

five quarters

2 drops

3 increases (I will verify my data and

get back to you)

Or lenny can he’s the man!

Hugs

A Jeff's mom

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of brian@...

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:49

AM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: What about

current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?

Rates of new diagnoses in California have dropped over

something like 5 of the last 6 quarters in

California.

There is documentation of similar decreases in

Indiana as

well.

The CDC has the information to do nationwide

surveillance

but remains strangely silent on the subject.

---- Original message ----

>Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:09 -0000

>From: " Craig Hansen "

<craighansen@...>

>Subject: What about current vaccines

and current

diagnosis rates?

>EOHarm

>

> I've got a child with an

autism-spectrum disorder,

> and knowing the

> true cause would certainly be a

step forward, but

> now that current

> vaccines are free of mercury,

shouldn't we be seeing

> a precipitous

> drop-off in rates of autism among

the youngest

> cohorts? It doesn't

> seem to be happening, according

to the diagnosis

> rates reported in

> California.

>

> ----------------------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is all assuming that the current vaccines are mercury free, though, right? We certainly hope they are, but is there really any way of knowing? (, this isn't necessarily directed at you, just thinking out loud).

Ackerman <tacanow@...> wrote:

HI

Actually it has been quite rocky the past five quarters

2 drops

3 increases (I will verify my data and get back to you)

Or lenny can he’s the man!

Hugs

A Jeff's mom

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of brian@...Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:49 AMEOHarm Subject: Re: What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?

Rates of new diagnoses in California have dropped over something like 5 of the last 6 quarters in California. There is documentation of similar decreases in Indiana as well. The CDC has the information to do nationwide surveillance but remains strangely silent on the subject. ---- Original message ---->Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:09 -0000>From: "Craig Hansen"

<craighansen@...> >Subject: What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates? >EOHarm >> I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,> and knowing the> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but> now that current> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing> a precipitous> drop-off in rates of autism among

the youngest> cohorts? It doesn't> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis> rates reported in> California.>> ---------------------------------------------------->>

[Guest guest]

Has anyone purchased vaccines from current inventory to check them?

Not that I don't trust them,.. But actually I don't

-- In EOHarm , jensewspa <jensewspa@y...> wrote:

> This is all assuming that the current vaccines are mercury free,

though, right? We certainly hope they are, but is there really any way

of knowing? (, this isn't necessarily directed at you, just

thinking out loud).

>

>

> Ackerman <tacanow@c...> wrote:

>

> HI

>

>

>

> Actually it has been quite rocky the past five quarters

>

> 2 drops

>

> 3 increases (I will verify my data and get back to you)

>

>

>

> Or lenny can he's the man!

>

>

>

> Hugs

>

> A Jeff's mom

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of brian@d...

> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:49 AM

> EOHarm

> Subject: Re: What about current vaccines and current

diagnosis rates?

>

>

>

>

> Rates of new diagnoses in California have dropped over

> something like 5 of the last 6 quarters in California.

> There is documentation of similar decreases in Indiana as

> well.

>

> The CDC has the information to do nationwide surveillance

> but remains strangely silent on the subject.

>

>

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:09 -0000

> >From: " Craig Hansen " <craighansen@y...>

> >Subject: What about current vaccines and current

> diagnosis rates?

> >EOHarm

> >

> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,

> > and knowing the

> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but

> > now that current

> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing

> > a precipitous

> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest

> > cohorts? It doesn't

> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis

> > rates reported in

> > California.

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Craig,

Nobody reallly seems to know for certain. The vaccine makers started

making thimerosal-free vaccines in 1999, but remember, there was never

a recall of existing thimerosal containing vaccines nor is there any

definitive info on when these lots expired or were used up. Also,

Rhogam with thimerosal was fazed out of use in 2002 or 2003. Some

suggest that there is a high rate of RH negative moms in the autism

community. My wife is one of them. I think we will see rates

dropping late this year or early next year. Just my guess.

> I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing the

> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that current

> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitous

> drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn't

> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported in

> California.

[Guest guest]

, I wish I had the proof that Kirby needs but I don't...

but I do know that my neighbor took her 5 yr old ASD son to the

doctor *last month*-- he was due for the DPT-- she asked for thim-

free and was told it was-- she asked to take the insert home to make

sure-- and sure it enough, it contained thimerosal. This was in

Needham, Massachusetts. This mom is not even convinced of the thim-

autism connection, she was just trying to play it safe. There have

been several similar stories on the CK2 board. I think the figures

are going to be tricky. All the best, Jeannie

>

> HI

>

>

>

> Actually it has been quite rocky the past five quarters

>

> 2 drops

>

> 3 increases (I will verify my data and get back to you)

>

>

>

> Or lenny can he's the man!

>

>

>

> Hugs

>

> A Jeff's mom

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of brian@d...

> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:49 AM

> EOHarm

> Subject: Re: What about current vaccines and current

diagnosis rates?

>

>

>

>

> Rates of new diagnoses in California have dropped over

> something like 5 of the last 6 quarters in California.

> There is documentation of similar decreases in Indiana as

> well.

>

> The CDC has the information to do nationwide surveillance

> but remains strangely silent on the subject.

>

>

>

> ---- Original message ----

> >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:09 -0000

> >From: " Craig Hansen " <craighansen@y...>

> >Subject: What about current vaccines and current

> diagnosis rates?

> >EOHarm

> >

> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,

> > and knowing the

> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but

> > now that current

> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing

> > a precipitous

> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest

> > cohorts? It doesn't

> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis

> > rates reported in

> > California.

> >

> > ----------------------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

from this :

This recently happened to a friend of mine in NE ohio... her doc was saying "oh silly, that is not in any of our shots!!" she pulled down three vials to show her and 2 of them had thimerosalin them

what the %^$# is going on?

jenny#2

What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates? > >EOHarm > >> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,> > and knowing the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but> > now that current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing> > a precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest> > cohorts? It doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis> > rates reported in> > California.> >> > ----------------------------------------------------> >> >

[Guest guest]

Many vaccines DO still contain TRACE amounts of thimerosal. How

much did vial say was in them?

> >

> > HI

> >

> >

> >

> > Actually it has been quite rocky the past five quarters

> >

> > 2 drops

> >

> > 3 increases (I will verify my data and get back to you)

> >

> >

> >

> > Or lenny can he's the man!

> >

> >

> >

> > Hugs

> >

> > A Jeff's mom

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

> >

> > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ]

On

> Behalf Of brian@d...

> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 9:49 AM

> > EOHarm

> > Subject: Re: What about current vaccines and current

> diagnosis rates?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Rates of new diagnoses in California have dropped over

> > something like 5 of the last 6 quarters in California.

> > There is documentation of similar decreases in Indiana as

> > well.

> >

> > The CDC has the information to do nationwide surveillance

> > but remains strangely silent on the subject.

> >

> >

> >

> > ---- Original message ----

> > >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 16:46:09 -0000

> > >From: " Craig Hansen " <craighansen@y...>

> > >Subject: What about current vaccines and current

> > diagnosis rates?

> > >EOHarm

> > >

> > > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,

> > > and knowing the

> > > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but

> > > now that current

> > > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing

> > > a precipitous

> > > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest

> > > cohorts? It doesn't

> > > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis

> > > rates reported in

> > > California.

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm in the state of California. A mom I know just recently went to the pediatrician and asked for thimerosal free vaccines. The doc told her that that would cost more money and that he would have to special order them. He suggested she find other parents that wanted these vaccines and go on in them together to cover the cost. Can you believe that! How rediculous. Special order???? What is really going on??

What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates? > >EOHarm > >> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,> > and knowing the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but> > now that current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing> > a precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest> > cohorts? It doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis> > rates reported in> > California.> >> > ----------------------------------------------------> >> >

[Guest guest]

see the recent posts about the vaccines on the childhood schedule STILL in docs offices STILL with thimerosal in them. Rhogam and a flu shot leaves a PG mom exposed to 80+micrograms before the kid is even born... mercury fillings, fish, coal buring plants... some babies are born just on the edge. Give 'em a couple flu shots and SHOVE! right over the edge.

Sad thing is while its out of SOME, its not out of all AND trace amounts are found in the thimerosal *FREE* shots b/c they use it in production.

That is why we are trying to get the mercury banned nationally or state by state. That is why it is so important to STILL check lables, vials, boxes and inserts AND request thimerosal free vax from you doc before you go.

jenny#2

What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?

I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing thetrue cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that currentvaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitousdrop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn'tseem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported inCalifornia.

[Guest guest]

Where are you getting this Rhogam data? All thimerosal was

supposedly pulled out of Rhogam in 2001. Please be factual and site

sources because if we don't we look like crackpots.

http://www.braytonlaw.com/news/mednews/061104_mercury_rhogam.htm

> see the recent posts about the vaccines on the childhood schedule

STILL in docs offices STILL with thimerosal in them. Rhogam and a

flu shot leaves a PG mom exposed to 80+micrograms before the kid is

even born... mercury fillings, fish, coal buring plants... some

babies are born just on the edge. Give 'em a couple flu shots and

SHOVE! right over the edge.

>

> Sad thing is while its out of SOME, its not out of all AND trace

amounts are found in the thimerosal *FREE* shots b/c they use it in

production.

> That is why we are trying to get the mercury banned nationally or

state by state. That is why it is so important to STILL check

lables, vials, boxes and inserts AND request thimerosal free vax

from you doc before you go.

>

> jenny#2

> What about current vaccines and current

diagnosis rates?

>

>

> I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing

the

> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that

current

> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a

precipitous

> drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It

doesn't

> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported

in

> California.

>

>

>

>

>

> -------------------------------------------------------------------

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>

[Guest guest]

my apologies, I was using the same math as the thimerosal laced childhood vaccines --we were told they stopped in 99 and were still on the shelves until early 2003.

if rhogam was done in 2001 I thought 2005.

I mean is that possible?

Isnt it possible there is still some out there? Or was this recalled? shorter shelf life?

Someone educate me please

jenny

What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?> > > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing the> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that current> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitous> drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn't> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported in> California.> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

[Guest guest]

I don't know about anyone else on this list but thimersol free or

not, I will never take another vaccine again in my life, nor will I

ever let them give another one to my granddaughter. I have been

around a long time. I'm 53years old. My son (who is my granddaugters

father) had a serious reaction to his first an only DPT. He wasn't dx

until 27 years later with ADD. Off course a lifetime of failure took

its toll on him. Two jail sentences, alcohol and drug addiction

problems. His daughter went into convulsions with her fourth

injection of poison. She is Dx aspergers. One of the questions we

need to ask ourselves is, if they take thimerisol out, what will they

replace it with? What other toxic shit is in these vaccines? No one I

knew growing up died from measles, mumps, german measles, diptheria,

Ccicken pox, ect. I am still trying to figure out when these diseases

became deadly killers. We never even went to the MD's when we came

down with them. As far as I am concerned they need to put all the

CDC, FDA, IOM so called experts that were part of this cover up in

gitmo. They are the true terrorists. I think they should save a cot

for Bush, and Frist, along with the CEO's of the pharmaceuticals. So

much for my two cents.

Peggy

> I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing the

> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that current

> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitous

> drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn't

> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported in

> California.

[Guest guest]

PeggyI am 38 and I don’t recall my mom dragging us off to the doc every time we got one of these illnesses and I had all of them all I remember about them is I got to stay home and watch cartoons for 2 weeks and I iched a lot my son who was given the chicken pox shot got a Lung infection from the damn thing and was out of school for 3 weeks with that and then this yr he ended up getting chicken pox anyway and was out of school again for 8 days I am still trying to figure out how that shot saved us anything

Re: What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?

I don't know about anyone else on this list but thimersol free or not, I will never take another vaccine again in my life, nor will I ever let them give another one to my granddaughter. I have been around a long time. I'm 53years old. My son (who is my granddaugters father) had a serious reaction to his first an only DPT. He wasn't dx until 27 years later with ADD. Off course a lifetime of failure took its toll on him. Two jail sentences, alcohol and drug addiction problems. His daughter went into convulsions with her fourth injection of poison. She is Dx aspergers. One of the questions we need to ask ourselves is, if they take thimerisol out, what will they replace it with? What other toxic shit is in these vaccines? No one I knew growing up died from measles, mumps, german measles, diptheria, Ccicken pox, ect. I am still trying to figure out when these diseases became deadly killers. We never even went to the MD's when we came down with them. As far as I am concerned they need to put all the CDC, FDA, IOM so called experts that were part of this cover up in gitmo. They are the true terrorists. I think they should save a cot for Bush, and Frist, along with the CEO's of the pharmaceuticals. So much for my two cents.Peggy> I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing the> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that current> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitous> drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn't> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported in> California.

[Guest guest]

,

It didn't save us anything, It just increased the profits for the

pharmaceutcals, not only by paying for the vaccine, but as you said,

your son got sick twice because of it. My granddaughter came down

with chickenpox last summer. The Ped automatically said it was

something else. Well low and behold she just got over a mild case of

shingels. He (Ped) couldn't deny it was shingels. I very

sarcastically said, how could she get the shingles if she didn't have

the chickenpox? He agreed. I made sure he wrote it down in her

medical records. We'll all be seeing a booster shot on this one two.

Oh! lets not forget the new vaccine for shingels they are about to

unleash on the poor elderly, and most likely another mandated vaccine

for our kids. Create the disease, and then create the so called cure.

These people are evil incarnate.

Peggy

> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing

the

> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that

current

> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a

precipitous

> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It

doesn't

> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported

in

> > California.

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

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>

[Guest guest]

Peggyour ped finely just told us well 20 % of the kids who get the shot still get sick but not as bad as the would have if they hadnt had the shot I looked at him and said if my son had gotten any sicker from the shot he would be 6 ft under

Re: What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?

,It didn't save us anything, It just increased the profits for the pharmaceutcals, not only by paying for the vaccine, but as you said, your son got sick twice because of it. My granddaughter came down with chickenpox last summer. The Ped automatically said it was something else. Well low and behold she just got over a mild case of shingels. He (Ped) couldn't deny it was shingels. I very sarcastically said, how could she get the shingles if she didn't have the chickenpox? He agreed. I made sure he wrote it down in her medical records. We'll all be seeing a booster shot on this one two. Oh! lets not forget the new vaccine for shingels they are about to unleash on the poor elderly, and most likely another mandated vaccine for our kids. Create the disease, and then create the so called cure. These people are evil incarnate.Peggy> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported in> > California.> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

[Guest guest]

I'm going to share this again. I was told at Autism One that an individual found CHILDHOOD VACCINES dated 2007 and still containing mercury!

Barb

What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?> > > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing the> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that current> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitous> drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn't> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported in> California.> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

[Guest guest]

Could you tell us who said this?

Are they on any of the lists.

We need more than hearsay.

There must be some way to find the shelf life for vaccines.

jromkema <jromkema@...> wrote:

I'm going to share this again. I was told at Autism One that an individual found CHILDHOOD VACCINES dated 2007 and still containing mercury!

Barb

What about current vaccines and current diagnosis rates?> > > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing the> true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that current> vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a precipitous> drop-off

in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It doesn't> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported in> California.> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

[Guest guest]

Barb: Who was this person? How can we contact him/her? Kirby

wants to know. Because the 1999 request by the Fraud and Drug

Administration (FDA) to vaccine makers was a polite request, and

because so far as we know we are being required to take the

manufacturers at their word

(http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#pres), Kirby and

others are looking for hard evidence of current vaccine vials of

pediatric vaccines that contain thimerosal.

Does anyone know if there has been any follow up to the August 2004

HAPI report that found thimerosal in vaccine vials they purchased

(http://www.hapihealth.com/project/vaxtest.html)?

Davey's Dad

> > see the recent posts about the vaccines on the childhood

schedule

> STILL in docs offices STILL with thimerosal in them. Rhogam

and a

> flu shot leaves a PG mom exposed to 80+micrograms before the

kid is

> even born... mercury fillings, fish, coal buring plants...

some

> babies are born just on the edge. Give 'em a couple flu shots

and

> SHOVE! right over the edge.

> >

> > Sad thing is while its out of SOME, its not out of all AND

trace

> amounts are found in the thimerosal *FREE* shots b/c they use

it in

> production.

> > That is why we are trying to get the mercury banned

nationally or

> state by state. That is why it is so important to STILL check

> lables, vials, boxes and inserts AND request thimerosal free

vax

> from you doc before you go.

> >

> > jenny#2

> > What about current vaccines and current

> diagnosis rates?

> >

> >

> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and

knowing

> the

> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that

> current

> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a

> precipitous

> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It

> doesn't

> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates

reported

> in

> > California.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -------------------------------------------------------------

------

> -----------

> >

[Guest guest]

my friend in ohio --she had to PURCHASE her own VIAL of DTaP --mercury free for $300. It was a ten does vial. Her doc could not order it in b/c of a pharma contract the office had. So she had to get the rx filled at a local pharmcy!

this is really starting to make me wonder.

I think I am going to call her doc in ohio and ask if the vaccines are thimerosal free, how come parents are having to special order them?

Are docs offices lying to us? can they still order childhood vaccines with mercury in them? are they? are they b/c its cheaper and then making parents special order?

Anyone want to assure me this is a fluke?? eh??

jenny#2

What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates? > >EOHarm > >> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,> > and knowing the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but> > now that current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing> > a precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest> > cohorts? It doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis> > rates reported in> > California.> >> > ----------------------------------------------------> >> >

[Guest guest]

,

aren't the thimerosal "free" (or reduced) vaccines only available in the single vials, hence the increase in price? I thought the whole point of the thimerosal was because of the greater risk of infection in the multi-dose vial and needle re-entry into the vial.

V

" M. Webster" <jwebs94@...> wrote:

my friend in ohio --she had to PURCHASE her own VIAL of DTaP --mercury free for $300. It was a ten does vial. Her doc could not order it in b/c of a pharma contract the office had. So she had to get the rx filled at a local pharmcy!

this is really starting to make me wonder.

I think I am going to call her doc in ohio and ask if the vaccines are thimerosal free, how come parents are having to special order them?

Are docs offices lying to us? can they still order childhood vaccines with mercury in them? are they? are they b/c its cheaper and then making parents special order?

Anyone want to assure me this is a fluke?? eh??

jenny#2

What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates? > >EOHarm > >> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,> > and knowing the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but> > now that current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing> > a precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest> > cohorts? It doesn't>

> seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis> > rates reported in> > California.> >> > ----------------------------------------------------> >> >

[Guest guest]

Do we have any doctors or nurses who can ferret out this info?

Surely the information must be accessible to healthcare professions.

For the nominal cost of testing why is it they cannot be tested on a larger scale than HAPI's testing? HAPI's test was all of 500.00 let see if we all chipped in that's under a buck.

<david@...> wrote:

Barb: Who was this person? How can we contact him/her? Kirby wants to know. Because the 1999 request by the Fraud and Drug Administration (FDA) to vaccine makers was a polite request, and because so far as we know we are being required to take the manufacturers at their word (http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm#pres), Kirby and others are looking for hard evidence of current vaccine vials of pediatric vaccines that contain thimerosal.Does anyone know if there has been any follow up to the August 2004 HAPI report that found thimerosal in vaccine vials they purchased (http://www.hapihealth.com/project/vaxtest.html)?Davey's Dad > > see the recent posts about the vaccines on the childhood schedule > STILL in docs offices STILL with thimerosal in them. Rhogam and a > flu shot leaves a PG mom exposed to 80+micrograms before the kid is > even born... mercury fillings, fish, coal buring plants... some > babies are born just on the edge. Give 'em a couple flu shots and > SHOVE! right over the edge.> > > > Sad thing is while its out of SOME, its not out of all AND trace > amounts are found in the thimerosal *FREE* shots b/c they use it in

> production.> > That is why we are trying to get the mercury banned nationally or > state by state. That is why it is so important to STILL check > lables, vials, boxes and inserts AND request thimerosal free vax > from you doc before you go.> > > > jenny#2> > What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates?>

> > > > > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing > the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that > current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a > precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It > doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported > in> > California.> > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

Here is what she wrote:

"We were unable to get an Hg free version of *******'s DTap without buying a 10 dose vial -- this ran us over $300 -- it had to be special ordered and everything. Our pediatrician wasn't able to order it through the practice because of drug company contracts... UGH! So she wrote us a script and we had it filled at the pharmacy... and we had to pay out of pocket. BUT its worth it for the piece of mind, IMHO!"

jenny

What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates? > >EOHarm > >> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,> > and knowing the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but> > now that current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing> > a precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest> > cohorts? It doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis> > rates reported in> > California.> >> > ----------------------------------------------------> >> >

[Guest guest]

Here is what she wrote:

"We were unable to get an Hg free version of *******'s DTap without buying a 10 dose vial -- this ran us over $300 -- it had to be special ordered and everything. Our pediatrician wasn't able to order it through the practice because of drug company contracts... UGH! So she wrote us a script and we had it filled at the pharmacy... and we had to pay out of pocket. BUT its worth it for the piece of mind, IMHO!"

jenny

What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates? > >EOHarm > >> > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder,> > and knowing the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but> > now that current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing> > a precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest> > cohorts? It doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis> > rates reported in> > California.> >> > ----------------------------------------------------> >> >

[Guest guest]

ok I wrote to my friend who had to special order a mulitdose vial of thimerosal free....

I asked her if she can contact the doc and get more info --brand lot# ex year.. etc..

I will let you know as soon as I know

jenny

What about current vaccines and current > diagnosis rates?> > > > > > I've got a child with an autism-spectrum disorder, and knowing > the> > true cause would certainly be a step forward, but now that > current> > vaccines are free of mercury, shouldn't we be seeing a > precipitous> > drop-off in rates of autism among the youngest cohorts? It > doesn't> > seem to be happening, according to the diagnosis rates reported > in> > California.> > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------> -----------> >