Re: How mad are we????

June 14, 2005

mad enough to calmly, intelligently, formulate a plan and follow through on it without using violence or misdirected anger.

addic4 <loribcolec@...> wrote:

To allI think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must continue to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we know where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected! Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't shine! Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by all the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We called everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the audacity to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a "HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded to the circular file as soon as they hung up

or received the fax or book or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in high positions in Government has been directly affected by this discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss oflife. Imagine a group of local criminals did our children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE"s and they had a local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be able to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not just today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all our blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes we have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am

ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOO PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for those that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be a great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you are in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This forum is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the control back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even thwarted.LB

Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

June 14, 2005

LB I love your energy. But there are many trustworthy people in

power; not all of them are bad guys. You have great energy & it is

awesome to want to help soooooo much. We all just gotta keep a

level head though because our children are depending on us. I am

mad as hell, too, and I am FOCUSED on what needs to be done.

Someone with energy like yours can move mountains.

Where are you located? Maybe we can get together?

~Becky

> To all

> I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

continue

> to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we

> know

> where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected!

> Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't

shine!

> Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by

all

> the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

called

> everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> audacity

> to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded

to

> the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or

book

> or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in

high

> positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe

> the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of

>

> life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they

had a

> local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be

able

> to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not

just

> today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all

our

> blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes

we

> have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum

> that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am

> ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE

SOOOOOOOOOO

> PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for

those

> that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be

a

> great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you

are

> in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This

forum

> is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the

control

> back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> thwarted.

>

> LB

June 14, 2005

my anger is not misdirected, it comes from a broken heart. My

anger and others will motivate us to do more, not illegally as I

stated, just more of an impact that we can all participate in 24/7.

MASS TRANSIT.

LB

> To all

> I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

continue

> to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we

> know

> where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected!

> Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't shine!

> Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by

all

> the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

called

> everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> audacity

> to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded

to

> the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or

book

> or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in high

> positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe

> the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of

>

> life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they had

a

> local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be

able

> to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not just

> today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all our

> blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes

we

> have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum

> that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am

> ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOO

> PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for

those

> that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be a

> great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you

are

> in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This

forum

> is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the control

> back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> thwarted.

>

> LB

>

> ---------------------------------

>

June 14, 2005

Whoa, no fighting girls! LOL!

LB, it's just that we've been accused of being fanatical at times.

Your anger is totally justified & we all share it. Keep your enegry

up & use it!!

Together we can make a difference.

~Becky

PS - Anger leads to hate - hate leads to the dark side of the

force.

LOL - I thought you'd like that one. SW fan!!

> > To all

> > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

> continue

> > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum,

we

> > know

> > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most

respected!

> > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't

shine!

> > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by

> all

> > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

> called

> > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> > audacity

> > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got

forwarded

> to

> > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or

> book

> > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in

high

> > positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need.

Maybe

> > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss

of

> >

> > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they

had

> a

> > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be

> able

> > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not

just

> > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all

our

> > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!!

Yes

> we

> > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the

forum

> > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I

am

> > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE

SOOOOOOOOOO

> > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for

> those

> > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can

be a

> > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If

you

> are

> > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This

> forum

> > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the

control

> > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> > thwarted.

> >

> > LB

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

June 14, 2005

,

I think you mentioned you are from New York. Me too. We do have a

strategy that has been unfolding in a number of ways over the last

three years. We are at a crucial stage on one prong of that

strategy--the NY bill to ban Thimerosal in vaccines. See the links

below. Send the links to everyone you know. You can send a letter,

either the one provided or personalized, to key legislators easily and

quickly by clicking on the link. And subscribe to A-CHAMP so that you

can take action on issues and legislation.

Get mercury out of vaccines, in New York. If Congress won't do it, the

states can.

Thanks,

Bob Krakow

Letters from those outside New York can help, too. Click the top link.

Please feel free to forward this message to any and all interested

parties and message boards.

From the

Action Center

Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!

Urgent Action Needed on S 2707 in Senate Health Committee!

According to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC, one in six

children now suffer from neurodevelopmental disorders, such as AD/HD,

Asperger’s and Autism. Some vaccines given to pregnant women, infants

and children can contain as much as 25 micrograms of mercury. Mercury

is a known neurotoxin and a growing body of evidence suggests a strong

correlation between Thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative used

in vaccines, and these disorders.

Your help is urgently needed to convince the New York State Senate

Health Committee to advance S 2707, a bill banning mercury in vaccines

for pregnant women and children under the age of three.

Please take a moment to send a message to New York State Senators Kemp

Hannon, Chairman of the Health Committee and ph Bruno, New York

Senate Majority Leader.

Click Here to Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!

http://capwiz.com/a-champ/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=7708961

Click here if you are a NEW YORK resident!

http://capwiz.com/a-champ/issues/alert/?alertid=7708881 & type=ST

On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:03 PM, karen beauvais wrote:

> mad enough to calmly, intelligently, formulate a plan and follow

> through on it without using violence or misdirected anger.

>

> addic4 <loribcolec@...> wrote:

> To all

> I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must continue

> to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we

> know

> where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected!

> Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't shine!

> Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by all

> the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We called

> everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> audacity

> to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded to

> the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or book

> or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in high

> positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe

> the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of

>

> life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they had a

> local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be able

> to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not just

> today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all our

> blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes we

> have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum

> that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am

> ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOO

> PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for those

> that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be a

> great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you are

> in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This forum

> is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the control

> back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> thwarted.

>

> LB

>

> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

>

June 14, 2005

Didn't say you were misdirected.

I appreciate your passion, we all need to funnel anger into productive action.

I totally understand the broken heart thing.

Watch what you say.

This is a public site and any steam vented towards politicians or anyone else could be cut and paste then send off to the press.

This happened to me on this list so guard your words carefully.

I hope you can find answers that will mend your heart. If you have not started BioMed yet and need some help please let us know and we'll point you to some great interventions that are working with our kids.

addic4 <loribcolec@...> wrote:

my anger is not misdirected, it comes from a broken heart. My anger and others will motivate us to do more, not illegally as I stated, just more of an impact that we can all participate in 24/7. MASS TRANSIT.LB> To all> I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must continue > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we > know > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected! > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun

don't shine! > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by all > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We called > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the > audacity > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a "HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded to > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or book > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in high > positions in Government has been directly affected by this > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of>

> > > > > > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE"s and they had a > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be able > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not just > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all our > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes we > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOO > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for those

> that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be a > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you are > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This forum > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the control > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even > thwarted.> > LB> > > > > > --------------------------------->

June 14, 2005

thank you will do." J. Krakow" <rkrakow@...> wrote:

,I think you mentioned you are from New York. Me too. We do have a strategy that has been unfolding in a number of ways over the last three years. We are at a crucial stage on one prong of that strategy--the NY bill to ban Thimerosal in vaccines. See the links below. Send the links to everyone you know. You can send a letter, either the one provided or personalized, to key legislators easily and quickly by clicking on the link. And subscribe to A-CHAMP so that you can take action on issues and legislation.Get mercury out of vaccines, in New York. If Congress won't do it, the states can.Thanks,Bob KrakowLetters from those outside New York can help, too. Click the top link.Please feel free to forward this message to any and all interested parties and message boards.From

the Action Center Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!Urgent Action Needed on S 2707 in Senate Health Committee!According to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC, one in six children now suffer from neurodevelopmental disorders, such as AD/HD, Asperger’s and Autism. Some vaccines given to pregnant women, infants and children can contain as much as 25 micrograms of mercury. Mercury is a known neurotoxin and a growing body of evidence suggests a strong correlation between Thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative used in vaccines, and these disorders.Your help is urgently needed to convince the New York State Senate Health Committee to advance S 2707, a bill banning mercury in vaccines for pregnant women and

children under the age of three. Please take a moment to send a message to New York State Senators Kemp Hannon, Chairman of the Health Committee and ph Bruno, New York Senate Majority Leader.Click Here to Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!http://capwiz.com/a-champ/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=7708961 Click here if you are a NEW YORK resident!http://capwiz.com/a-champ/issues/alert/?alertid=7708881 & type=STOn Jun 14, 2005, at 12:03 PM, karen beauvais wrote:> mad enough to calmly, intelligently, formulate a plan and follow > through on it without using violence or misdirected anger.>>> addic4 wrote:> To all> I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must continue> to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we> know> where to go for help!! Our forum is the best

and most respected! > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't shine! > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by all> the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not> thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We called> everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent> our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the > audacity> to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a "HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL> FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded to> the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or book> or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in high> positions in Government has been directly affected by this> discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe > the someones I refer

to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of>>>>>>> life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our> children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE"s and they had a> local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be able> to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be> ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not just> today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all our> blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes we> have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum> that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am> ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual> level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOO> PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan,

off forum, for those> that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be a> great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you are> in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This forum> is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the control> back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even> thwarted.>> LB>>>>> > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour>>

June 14, 2005

Actually, I really liked the Pepsi commercial where Yoda uses Jedi mind tricks

to get

another guy's sandwich and tries to get his Pepsi. " Mmmm, Not want your pepsi,

you do! "

I'd like to learn a few Jedi mind tricks of my own and use them on the folks in

charge of

the VSD!

> PS - Anger leads to hate - hate leads to the dark side of the

> force.

> LOL - I thought you'd like that one. SW fan!!

June 14, 2005

Will this work with Chocolate? If so I'm in.

K Nanstiel <erik@...> wrote:

Actually, I really liked the Pepsi commercial where Yoda uses Jedi mind tricks to get another guy's sandwich and tries to get his Pepsi. "Mmmm, Not want your pepsi, you do!"I'd like to learn a few Jedi mind tricks of my own and use them on the folks in charge of the VSD!> PS - Anger leads to hate - hate leads to the dark side of the > force. > LOL - I thought you'd like that one. SW fan!! __________________________________________________

June 14, 2005

Well, I don't know. I think the closest thing to a Jedi mind trick available to

us in the real

world is a technique developed by Nealon of Saturday Night Live... as

portrayed by

his character " Mr. Subliminal "

: " Hi, " (your place) " would you like to join me for a lite? " (your

treat) " It's on

me! "

Pretty Girl: " Okay, but it's my treat! "

: " Oh, great, thanks! "

That might work for chocolate!

> Actually, I really liked the Pepsi commercial where Yoda uses Jedi mind tricks

to get

> another guy's sandwich and tries to get his Pepsi. " Mmmm, Not want your

pepsi, you

do! "

>

> I'd like to learn a few Jedi mind tricks of my own and use them on the folks

in charge of

> the VSD!

>

June 14, 2005

Hi Becky

I am an Illinoision. This forum has made me realize how much pain

and anguish our kids are experiencing... and they will be beyond REAL

HELP if this takes too long, they and we aren't gettin any younger.

The process is long and hard, and we don't know for sure who is our

friend, ie: the dissapointment of Hillary Clinton and others. If we

have friends then they will be there to help us carry out our plans .

The mountains we can move are the ones that each and every one of us

can do right now. The political stuff is not what I am in a position

to do, but I can ask the question, on T-shirts and signs on cars,

vans, etc. WHO WILL YOU VOTE FOR? The WH says it's OK to use 40

times the safe amount of preservatives in vaccines for pregnant

women, 1 day old babies and kids born between 1987 to present. Prior

to 1987.. 1 in 10,000 autistics and other developmental disorders,

2005... 1 in 500 you do the math. The White house isn't home when

we call!! We will leave a phone number and website for more info.

Just a thought, not anger, just hopefully very productive to our cause

LB

> > To all

> > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

> continue

> > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we

> > know

> > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most

respected!

> > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't

> shine!

> > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by

> all

> > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

> called

> > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> > audacity

> > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded

> to

> > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or

> book

> > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in

> high

> > positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need.

Maybe

> > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss

of

> >

> > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they

> had a

> > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be

> able

> > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not

> just

> > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all

> our

> > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes

> we

> > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum

> > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I

am

> > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE

> SOOOOOOOOOO

> > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for

> those

> > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be

> a

> > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you

> are

> > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This

> forum

> > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the

> control

> > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> > thwarted.

> >

> > LB

June 14, 2005

I see your point. I will try to post my ideas with less energy. LOL--

but, how bout it any of my thoughts doable? LB

- In EOHarm , karen beauvais <jesusnowworld@y...>

wrote:

> Didn't say you were misdirected.

> I appreciate your passion, we all need to funnel anger into

productive action.

> I totally understand the broken heart thing.

> Watch what you say.

> This is a public site and any steam vented towards politicians or

anyone else could be cut and paste then send off to the press.

> This happened to me on this list so guard your words carefully.

> I hope you can find answers that will mend your heart. If you have

not started BioMed yet and need some help please let us know and

we'll point you to some great interventions that are working with our

kids.

>

> addic4 <loribcolec@a...> wrote:

>

> my anger is not misdirected, it comes from a broken heart.

My

> anger and others will motivate us to do more, not illegally as I

> stated, just more of an impact that we can all participate in

24/7.

> MASS TRANSIT.

> LB

>

> > To all

> > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

> continue

> > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we

> > know

> > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most

respected!

> > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't

shine!

> > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by

> all

> > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

> called

> > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> > audacity

> > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded

> to

> > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or

> book

> > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in

high

> > positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need.

Maybe

> > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss

of

> >

> > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they

had

> a

> > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be

> able

> > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not

just

> > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all

our

> > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes

> we

> > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum

> > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I

am

> > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE

SOOOOOOOOOO

> > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for

> those

> > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be

a

> > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you

> are

> > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This

> forum

> > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the

control

> > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> > thwarted.

> >

> > LB

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

June 14, 2005

ok LB I'm with you wanna log miles and places we have been with fliers and our car signs?

We can set up a grid for the US.

North Atlanta

addic4 <loribcolec@...> wrote:

Hi BeckyI am an Illinoision. This forum has made me realize how much pain and anguish our kids are experiencing... and they will be beyond REAL HELP if this takes too long, they and we aren't gettin any younger. The process is long and hard, and we don't know for sure who is our friend, ie: the dissapointment of Hillary Clinton and others. If we have friends then they will be there to help us carry out our plans . The mountains we can move are the ones that each and every one of us can do right now. The political stuff is not what I am in a position to do, but I can ask the question, on T-shirts and signs on cars, vans, etc. WHO WILL YOU VOTE FOR? The WH says it's OK to use 40 times the safe amount of preservatives in vaccines for pregnant women, 1 day old babies and kids born between 1987 to

present. Prior to 1987.. 1 in 10,000 autistics and other developmental disorders, 2005... 1 in 500 you do the math. The White house isn't home when we call!! We will leave a phone number and website for more info. Just a thought, not anger, just hopefully very productive to our causeLB> > To all> > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must > continue > > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we > > know > > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected! > > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't > shine! > > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by > all > > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not > > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We > called > > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent > > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the > > audacity > > to ignore us,

with a smile to boot,and a "HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL > > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded > to > > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or > book > > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in > high > > positions in Government has been directly affected by this > > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe > > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our > > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE"s and they > had a > > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be > able > > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter

that we can be > > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not > just > > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all > our > > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes > we > > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum > > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am > > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual > > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE > SOOOOOOOOOO > > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for > those > > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be > a > > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you > are > > in let me know and we can arrange for a

meeting of sorts. This > forum > > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the > control > > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even > > thwarted.> > > > LB__________________________________________________

June 14, 2005

I'm in. Flyers become street debris. T-shirts I know are legal.

What about magnetic signs for the top of vehicles? Anybody know or

know how to find out, for thier state? Once we know the answer to

these questions I say lets pick a day to start the campaign. Day and

night, 24/7 our message will be moving along (so to speak) by human

and otherwise mass transit. The campaign will have no end until we

have our end. The message, in my opinion should all be the same, so

as to have the maximum impact and become like a slogan, no one can

stop talking about.

LB

..

> > > To all

> > > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

> > continue

> > > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum,

we

> > > know

> > > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most

> respected!

> > > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't

> > shine!

> > > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored

by

> > all

> > > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE

not

> > > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

> > called

> > > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we

sent

> > > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> > > audacity

> > > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I

WILL

> > > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got

forwarded

> > to

> > > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax

or

> > book

> > > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in

> > high

> > > positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> > > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need.

> Maybe

> > > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse,

loss

> of

> > >

> > > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> > > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they

> > had a

> > > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be

> > able

> > > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> > > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not

> > just

> > > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all

> > our

> > > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!!

Yes

> > we

> > > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the

forum

> > > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I

> am

> > > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am

individual

> > > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE

> > SOOOOOOOOOO

> > > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for

> > those

> > > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can

be

> > a

> > > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If

you

> > are

> > > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This

> > forum

> > > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the

> > control

> > > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> > > thwarted.

> > >

> > > LB

>

> ---------------------------------

>

June 14, 2005

Thanks, . A number of us will be in Albany, the State Capitol

tomorrow, to meet with legislators and we've asked to meet with the

Governor.

J. Krakow

Attorney At Law

225 Broadway, Suite 2700

New York, New York 10007

(212) 227-0600

(646) 349-1771 (fax)

On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:33 PM, karen beauvais wrote:

> thank you will do.

>

> " J. Krakow " <rkrakow@...> wrote:

> ,

> I think you mentioned you are from New York. Me too. We do have a

> strategy that has been unfolding in a number of ways over the last

> three years. We are at a crucial stage on one prong of that

> strategy--the NY bill to ban Thimerosal in vaccines. See the links

> below. Send the links to everyone you know. You can send a letter,

> either the one provided or personalized, to key legislators easily

> and

> quickly by clicking on the link. And subscribe to A-CHAMP so that you

> can take action on issues and legislation.

>

> Get mercury out of vaccines, in New York. If Congress won't do it, the

> states can.

> Thanks,

>

> Bob Krakow

>

> Letters from those outside New York can help, too. Click the top link.

>

> Please feel free to forward this message to any and all interested

> parties and message boards.

> From the Action Center

>

> Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!

>

> Urgent Action Needed on S 2707 in Senate Health Committee!

>

> According to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC, one in six

> children now suffer from neurodevelopmental disorders, such as AD/HD,

> Asperger’s and Autism. Some vaccines given to pregnant women, infants

> and children can contain as much as 25 micrograms of mercury. Mercury

> is a known neurotoxin and a growing body of evidence suggests a strong

> correlation between Thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative used

> in vaccines, and these disorders.

>

> Your help is urgently needed to convince the New York State Senate

> Health Committee to advance S 2707, a bill banning mercury in vaccines

> for pregnant women and children under the age of three.

>

> Please take a moment to send a message to New York State Senators Kemp

> Hannon, Chairman of the Health Committee and ph Bruno, New York

> Senate Majority Leader.

>

> Click Here to Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!

>

> http://capwiz.com/a-champ/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=7708961

>

> Click here if you are a NEW YORK resident!

>

> http://capwiz.com/a-champ/issues/alert/?alertid=7708881 & type=ST

>

> On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:03 PM, karen beauvais wrote:

>

> > mad enough to calmly, intelligently, formulate a plan and follow

> > through on it without using violence or misdirected anger.

> >

> > addic4 wrote:

> > To all

> > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must continue

> > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we

> > know

> > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected!

> > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't shine!

> > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by all

> > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We called

> > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> > audacity

> > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded to

> > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or book

> > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in high

> > positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe

> > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of

> >

> > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they had a

> > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be able

> > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not just

> > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all our

> > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes we

> > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum

> > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am

> > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOO

> > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for those

> > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be a

> > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you are

> > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This forum

> > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the control

> > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> > thwarted.

> >

> > LB

> >

> > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour

> >

June 14, 2005

Actually, the entire quote is " Fear leads to anger; anger leads to

hate; hate leads to suffering " Okay, I am officially a nerd, and a

female one at that.

> > > To all

> > > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

> > continue

> > > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum,

> we

> > > know

> > > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most

> respected!

> > > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't

> shine!

> > > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored

by

> > all

> > > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE

not

> > > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

> > called

> > > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we

sent

> > > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have

the

> > > audacity

> > > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I

WILL

> > > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got

> forwarded

> > to

> > > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax

or

> > book

> > > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in

> high

> > > positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> > > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need.

> Maybe

> > > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse,

loss

> of

> > >

> > > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> > > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and

they

> had

> > a

> > > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth

be

> > able

> > > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> > > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not

> just

> > > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to

all

> our

> > > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!!

> Yes

> > we

> > > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the

> forum

> > > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!!

I

> am

> > > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am

individual

> > > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE

> SOOOOOOOOOO

> > > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum,

for

> > those

> > > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can

> be a

> > > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If

> you

> > are

> > > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts.

This

> > forum

> > > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the

> control

> > > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> > > thwarted.

> > >

> > > LB

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > >

June 14, 2005

LB, I'm with you. We've got to try something else. We are just

being ignored. Malan/ North Vernon, IN (home state of Ely

Lily and governor " my man Mitch " s) my e-mail

hdmalan@... and ph# 812-346-3869

> > To all

> > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must

> continue

> > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we

> > know

> > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most

respected!

> > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't

shine!

> > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by

> all

> > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not

> > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We

> called

> > everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent

> > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the

> > audacity

> > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a " HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL

> > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded

> to

> > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or

> book

> > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in

high

> > positions in Government has been directly affected by this

> > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need.

Maybe

> > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss

of

> >

> > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our

> > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE " s and they

had

> a

> > local police station to protect them, would heavan and earth be

> able

> > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be

> > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not

just

> > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all

our

> > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes

> we

> > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum

> > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I

am

> > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual

> > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE

SOOOOOOOOOO

> > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for

> those

> > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be

a

> > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you

> are

> > in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This

> forum

> > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the

control

> > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even

> > thwarted.

> >

> > LB

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

June 14, 2005

I know a circuit judge there who is a good family friend I will see if I can get in contact with him.

" J. Krakow" <rkrakow@...> wrote:

Thanks, . A number of us will be in Albany, the State Capitol tomorrow, to meet with legislators and we've asked to meet with the Governor. J. KrakowAttorney At Law225 Broadway, Suite 2700New York, New York 10007(212) 227-0600(646) 349-1771 (fax)On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:33 PM, karen beauvais wrote:> thank you will do.>> " J. Krakow" wrote:> ,> I think you mentioned you are from New York. Me too. We do have a> strategy that has been unfolding in a number of ways over the last> three years. We are at a crucial stage on one prong of that> strategy--the NY bill to ban Thimerosal in vaccines. See the links> below. Send the links to everyone you know. You can send a letter,> either the one provided or

personalized, to key legislators easily > and> quickly by clicking on the link. And subscribe to A-CHAMP so that you> can take action on issues and legislation.>> Get mercury out of vaccines, in New York. If Congress won't do it, the> states can.> Thanks,>> Bob Krakow>> Letters from those outside New York can help, too. Click the top link.>>> Please feel free to forward this message to any and all interested> parties and message boards.> From the Action Center>> >> Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!>> Urgent Action Needed on S 2707 in Senate Health Committee!>> According to the American Academy of Pediatrics and the CDC, one in six> children now suffer from neurodevelopmental disorders, such as AD/HD,> Asperger’s and Autism. Some vaccines given to pregnant women,

infants> and children can contain as much as 25 micrograms of mercury. Mercury> is a known neurotoxin and a growing body of evidence suggests a strong> correlation between Thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative used> in vaccines, and these disorders.>> Your help is urgently needed to convince the New York State Senate> Health Committee to advance S 2707, a bill banning mercury in vaccines> for pregnant women and children under the age of three. >> Please take a moment to send a message to New York State Senators Kemp> Hannon, Chairman of the Health Committee and ph Bruno, New York> Senate Majority Leader.>> Click Here to Help New York Ban Mercury in Vaccines!>> http://capwiz.com/a-champ/mail/oneclick_compose/?alertid=7708961> > Click here if you are a NEW YORK resident!>>

http://capwiz.com/a-champ/issues/alert/?alertid=7708881 & type=ST>> On Jun 14, 2005, at 12:03 PM, karen beauvais wrote:>> > mad enough to calmly, intelligently, formulate a plan and follow> > through on it without using violence or misdirected anger.> >> >> > addic4 wrote:> > To all> > I think it is clear, we can trust no one in power. We must continue> > to help our kids in every way possible. Thanks to this forum, we> > know> > where to go for help!! Our forum is the best and most respected! > > Now lets take what we know and shove it where the sun don't shine! > > Play fire with fire!! I am sooooo pissed to have been ignored by all> > the political figures we pay to do thier jobs for THE PEOPLE not> > thier own agendas!!! Look what we have done as a group!!! We called> >

everyone that is anyone, we provided data (not opinion), we sent> > our blood through the airwaves to them and they still have the > > audacity> > to ignore us, with a smile to boot,and a "HAVE A NICE DAY I WILL> > FORWARD YOUR MESSAGE TO?????!! Yeh right, I bet it got forwarded to> > the circular file as soon as they hung up or received the fax or book> > or pamphlet. I think that unless someone or many someones, in high> > positions in Government has been directly affected by this> > discrimination they will not help us to the extent we need. Maybe > > the someones I refer to were already helped $$$$$ or worse, loss of> >> >> >> >> >> >> > life. Imagine a group of local criminals did our> > children the same harm that the YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE"s and they had a> > local police

station to protect them, would heavan and earth be able> > to stop us from justice?? I am mad as a hatter that we can be> > ignored after all we have done, them knowing the damage is not just> > today but forever!!! How long can we wait for an answer to all our> > blood sweat and tears projects!!! Let's get mad, REAL MAD!!! Yes we> > have had some response, but are wqe any better off then the forum> > that started in 2000, about the Mercury=Autism connection!!! I am> > ready when you all are to take the upper hand! On am individual> > level I AM PISSED, how about a cumulitive level, WE ARE SOOOOOOOOOO> > PISSED! Let's use our energy and devise a plan, off forum, for those> > that are interested. The walls have ears and the internet can be a> > great place to pretend. Mass transit is the way to go!!! If you are>

> in let me know and we can arrange for a meeting of sorts. This forum> > is invaluable, don't stop posting, but the plan to take the control> > back where it belongs, to us, can be misconstrued and and even> > thwarted.> >> > LB> >> >> >> >> > > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour> >> >

June 14, 2005

What about contacting MoveOn.org? They have a great audience. If they were educated about the issue and its political ramifications it may be a great way to get the message out.