Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics; autism hereditary?

[Guest guest]

I started taking notes of families from three different sources about 7 months ago.

In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700 families. I excluded all families (like mine) with an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 -- depending now how you count the two ASD kids I found.

So I believe that autism is only herediary when both kids are vaccinated.

I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier (according to every parent I've talked to). I have a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got eczema for the first time at six months. She had had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR which was not authorized), but is so much healthier -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia (the last one ended him in the hospital for two days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD improved) when he took him off milk

Veramnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing thetwo? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

[Guest guest]

my autistic son is vaxed and my NT 5 yr old is just starting his vaxs now 1 shot at a time and NO mercu

Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics; autism hereditary?

I started taking notes of families from three different sources about 7 months ago.

In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700 families. I excluded all families (like mine) with an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 -- depending now how you count the two ASD kids I found.

So I believe that autism is only herediary when both kids are vaccinated.

I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier (according to every parent I've talked to). I have a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got eczema for the first time at six months. She had had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR which was not authorized), but is so much healthier -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia (the last one ended him in the hospital for two days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD improved) when he took him off milk

Veramnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing thetwo? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

[Guest guest]

They will be eating snowcones in **ell before I ever vaccinate my ASD child.

I cannot understand why anyone would, it seems like insult to injury.(no pun intended)

After reading EOH I am done with vaccinations for my kids.

I am stunned at how underregulated the vaccine program is in this country.

One is thing is for sure, no one is thinking about our children's safety in the entire process.

Hot lots aren't pulled, no one is concerned about injecting toxins in babies and our government shields the manufacturer from liability.

No thanks keep your dang shots.

angela watters <aangelbaby66@...> wrote:

my autistic son is vaxed and my NT 5 yr old is just starting his vaxs now 1 shot at a time and NO mercu

Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics; autism hereditary?

I started taking notes of families from three different sources about 7 months ago.

In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700 families. I excluded all families (like mine) with an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 -- depending now how you count the two ASD kids I found.

So I believe that autism is only herediary when both kids are vaccinated.

I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier (according to every parent I've talked to). I have a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got eczema for the first time at six months. She had had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR which was not authorized), but is so much healthier -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia (the last one ended him in the hospital for two days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD improved) when he took him off milk

Veramnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing thetwo? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

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with out hireing a lawyer I don’t have a choice here

Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics; autism hereditary?

I started taking notes of families from three different sources about 7 months ago.

In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700 families. I excluded all families (like mine) with an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 -- depending now how you count the two ASD kids I found.

So I believe that autism is only herediary when both kids are vaccinated.

I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier (according to every parent I've talked to). I have a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got eczema for the first time at six months. She had had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR which was not authorized), but is so much healthier -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia (the last one ended him in the hospital for two days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD improved) when he took him off milk

Veramnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing thetwo? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

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[Guest guest]

Hi

I should have mentioned my children are 15 months apart, and while I knew my son had had a severe regression after his 10 month dtap, I still did not understand (about the seriousness of the thimerasol issue) until after my daughter had received her 5 shots -- which is nothing compared to what most of our ASD kids. And quite franky, right now I do not trust the labels that pharma is putting on the shots. I would not blink an eye if I found out that they were putting mercury back in to keep autism rates up. What can I say -- we've been burned.

Unlike most, I am still not a purist. If for example, they came out with a mercury-free safer meningitis shot, I still might consider it for my NT daughter. I'm with you, no way will my son ever receive another shot.

Verakaren beauvais <jesusnowworld@...> wrote:

They will be eating snowcones in **ell before I ever vaccinate my ASD child.

I cannot understand why anyone would, it seems like insult to injury.(no pun intended)

After reading EOH I am done with vaccinations for my kids.

I am stunned at how underregulated the vaccine program is in this country.

One is thing is for sure, no one is thinking about our children's safety in the entire process.

Hot lots aren't pulled, no one is concerned about injecting toxins in babies and our government shields the manufacturer from liability.

No thanks keep your dang shots.

angela watters <aangelbaby66@...> wrote:

my autistic son is vaxed and my NT 5 yr old is just starting his vaxs now 1 shot at a time and NO mercu

Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics; autism hereditary?

I started taking notes of families from three different sources about 7 months ago.

In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700 families. I excluded all families (like mine) with an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 -- depending now how you count the two ASD kids I found.

So I believe that autism is only herediary when both kids are vaccinated.

I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier (according to every parent I've talked to). I have a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got eczema for the first time at six months. She had had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR which was not authorized), but is so much healthier -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia (the last one ended him in the hospital for two days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD improved) when he took him off milk

Veramnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing thetwo? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

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Hi Vera,

My unvaxed only child likely has Asperger's, though I have not received, nor do

I plan to, a

diagnosis. He just turned 3. I ate no fish while pregnant, or for 2 years

prior. My

amalgams were removed 18 years ago. I have not had a vaccination for 30 years.

It has been a mystery to me, how to proceed with his detox/healing. We are

doing the

DAN thing, slowly...about to start chelation, but still wondering if that is the

issue. We are

even considering seeing a metabolic geneticist at Stanford in August, to

hopefully rule out

the genetic issue.

I just found out that I tested highly positive for lyme disease from two

separate labs. One

test suggests that I have had lyme for at least a year, possibly longterm. I

only recently

got the classic symptoms, which is what led to my Alternative MD's office.

There is the

possibility that my son has congenital lyme. He however tested negative for

lyme. I have

been told that with congenital lyme, unless the child is given antibiotics

first, they will

often test negative...that the antibiotics work to provoke/activate the lyme.

DAN dr. Stepahanie Cave has told Dr. J. McCandless that she is finding lyme in

the majority

of her ASD patients, that it is an epidemic.

There is another list, lyme-autism, and the majority of those list-ers

believe that it

is the lyme that is the underlying cause of much of the autism. Lyme supposedly

impedes

the body's ability to detoxify metals, etc. Enter the vaxes on an already

compromised

system, etc.

I'm not sure if Lyme, which has supposedly been around for millenia, can cause

an

epidemic (that was my recent question to the list), but perhaps it is a cofactor

in the

development of some of the cases of autism.

Anyway, I don't know how the hell to proceed with my high functioning, but

quirky son.

His tests look like a lot of the ASD population. CDSA shows gut dysbiosis;

there are many

food sensitivities, red cheeks with certain foods, some stims, a lot of

meltdowns and

obsessions, advanced language with Asperger's qualities, repetitive behaviors

blah blah. I

don't exactly want to give him abx, but what if that would help cure him? On

this lyme-

autism list, I have " met " 2 moms whose sons were cured of Asperger's through

abx.

So, FWIW, another theory...and one that is showing up increasingly on all the

lists I'm

lurking around on.

Whatever,

Jill

PS Hi to DK if you're reading this!!! You are the pips! I sent a copy of EOH to

Oprah!

> Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing the

> two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

-Any lyme testing done on your child?

-- In EOHarm , " Simon Power \(sipower\) "

<sipower@c...> wrote:

> I have a question to which this mail may have the answer .. my son

is 5

> times better/cognitive when on antibiotics - I have spoken to GP an

> Specialists but they all give me that irritating smile like I'm an

idiot

> - is it possible that the antibiotics in my (vax damaged) son are

> causing a mild chelation?

>

> Simon(Rians Dad)

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf

> Of robinsnd

> Sent: 12 June 2005 05:13

> EOHarm

> Subject: Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics; autism hereditary?

>

>

> Hi Vera,

> My unvaxed only child likely has Asperger's, though I have not

received,

> nor do I plan to, a

> diagnosis. He just turned 3. I ate no fish while pregnant, or for

2

> years prior. My

> amalgams were removed 18 years ago. I have not had a vaccination

for 30

> years.

>

> It has been a mystery to me, how to proceed with his

detox/healing. We

> are doing the

> DAN thing, slowly...about to start chelation, but still wondering if

> that is the issue. We are

> even considering seeing a metabolic geneticist at Stanford in

August, to

> hopefully rule out

> the genetic issue.

>

> I just found out that I tested highly positive for lyme disease

from two

> separate labs. One

> test suggests that I have had lyme for at least a year, possibly

> longterm. I only recently

> got the classic symptoms, which is what led to my Alternative MD's

> office. There is the

> possibility that my son has congenital lyme. He however tested

negative

> for lyme. I have

> been told that with congenital lyme, unless the child is given

> antibiotics first, they will

> often test negative...that the antibiotics work to provoke/activate

the

> lyme.

>

> DAN dr. Stepahanie Cave has told Dr. J. McCandless that she is

finding

> lyme in the majority

> of her ASD patients, that it is an epidemic.

>

> There is another list, lyme-autism, and the majority of those

> list-ers believe that it

> is the lyme that is the underlying cause of much of the autism.

Lyme

> supposedly impedes

> the body's ability to detoxify metals, etc. Enter the vaxes on an

> already compromised

> system, etc.

>

> I'm not sure if Lyme, which has supposedly been around for

millenia, can

> cause an

> epidemic (that was my recent question to the list), but perhaps it

is a

> cofactor in the

> development of some of the cases of autism.

>

> Anyway, I don't know how the hell to proceed with my high

functioning,

> but quirky son.

> His tests look like a lot of the ASD population. CDSA shows gut

> dysbiosis; there are many

> food sensitivities, red cheeks with certain foods, some stims, a

lot of

> meltdowns and

> obsessions, advanced language with Asperger's qualities, repetitive

> behaviors blah blah. I

> don't exactly want to give him abx, but what if that would help cure

> him? On this lyme-

> autism list, I have " met " 2 moms whose sons were cured of Asperger's

> through abx.

>

> So, FWIW, another theory...and one that is showing up increasingly

on

> all the lists I'm

> lurking around on.

>

> Whatever,

> Jill

> PS Hi to DK if you're reading this!!! You are the pips! I sent a

copy

> of EOH to Oprah!

>

>

> > Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing the

> > two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> >

[Guest guest]

thank you.

--- Vera <sircarlito@...> wrote:

> I started taking notes of families from three

> different sources about 7 months ago.

>

> In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700

> families. I excluded all families (like mine) with

> an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter

> (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about

> 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger

> NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger

> ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the

> older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before

> age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like

> .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and

> mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That

> gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 --

> depending now how you count the two ASD kids I

> found.

>

> So I believe that autism is only herediary when both

> kids are vaccinated.

>

> I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier

> (according to every parent I've talked to). I have

> a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got

> eczema for the first time at six months. She had

> had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no

> thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was

> misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR

> which was not authorized), but is so much healthier

> -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice

> -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my

> fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of

> mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved

> bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of

> chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems

> after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia

> (the last one ended him in the hospital for two

> days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD

> improved) when he took him off milk

>

> Vera

> mnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know if there have been any studies done

> comparing the

> two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer

> health issues.

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

my friend's child had a bad reaction to a vax. the

doc said, 'that one was a hot lot.' no, 'we're very

sorry about that.'

--- karen beauvais <jesusnowworld@...> wrote:

> They will be eating snowcones in **ell before I ever

> vaccinate my ASD child.

> I cannot understand why anyone would, it seems like

> insult to injury.(no pun intended)

> After reading EOH I am done with vaccinations for my

> kids.

> I am stunned at how underregulated the vaccine

> program is in this country.

> One is thing is for sure, no one is thinking about

> our children's safety in the entire process.

> Hot lots aren't pulled, no one is concerned about

> injecting toxins in babies and our government

> shields the manufacturer from liability.

> No thanks keep your dang shots.

>

>

> angela watters <aangelbaby66@...> wrote:

> my autistic son is vaxed and my NT 5 yr old is just

> starting his vaxs now 1 shot at a time and NO mercu

> Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics;

> autism hereditary?

>

>

> I started taking notes of families from three

> different sources about 7 months ago.

>

> In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700

> families. I excluded all families (like mine) with

> an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter

> (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about

> 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger

> NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger

> ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the

> older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before

> age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like

> .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and

> mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That

> gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 --

> depending now how you count the two ASD kids I

> found.

>

> So I believe that autism is only herediary when both

> kids are vaccinated.

>

> I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier

> (according to every parent I've talked to). I have

> a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got

> eczema for the first time at six months. She had

> had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no

> thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was

> misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR

> which was not authorized), but is so much healthier

> -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice

> -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my

> fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of

> mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved

> bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of

> chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems

> after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia

> (the last one ended him in the hospital for two

> days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD

> improved) when he took him off milk

>

> Vera

> mnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know if there have been any studies done

> comparing the

> two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer

> health issues.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

re the meningitis vaccine;

There are so many strains of meningitis and the

vaccine only covers the bacterial caused by the " C "

strain (which is only covering about 20% of all cases

in the US). The vaccine does not contain the " B "

strain, the most common strain of meningococcus.

Vaccination against meningitis in children under two

may make them more susceptible to the disease rather

than conferring protection, according to a new study.

http://www.nursingtimes.net/nav?pag...esource=2246191

B

--- Vera <sircarlito@...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I should have mentioned my children are 15 months

> apart, and while I knew my son had had a severe

> regression after his 10 month dtap, I still did not

> understand (about the seriousness of the thimerasol

> issue) until after my daughter had received her 5

> shots -- which is nothing compared to what most of

> our ASD kids. And quite franky, right now I do not

> trust the labels that pharma is putting on the

> shots. I would not blink an eye if I found out that

> they were putting mercury back in to keep autism

> rates up. What can I say -- we've been burned.

>

> Unlike most, I am still not a purist. If for

> example, they came out with a mercury-free safer

> meningitis shot, I still might consider it for my NT

> daughter. I'm with you, no way will my son ever

> receive another shot.

>

> Vera

>

> karen beauvais <jesusnowworld@...> wrote:

> They will be eating snowcones in **ell before I ever

> vaccinate my ASD child.

> I cannot understand why anyone would, it seems like

> insult to injury.(no pun intended)

> After reading EOH I am done with vaccinations for my

> kids.

> I am stunned at how underregulated the vaccine

> program is in this country.

> One is thing is for sure, no one is thinking about

> our children's safety in the entire process.

> Hot lots aren't pulled, no one is concerned about

> injecting toxins in babies and our government

> shields the manufacturer from liability.

> No thanks keep your dang shots.

>

>

> angela watters <aangelbaby66@...> wrote:

> my autistic son is vaxed and my NT 5 yr old is just

> starting his vaxs now 1 shot at a time and NO mercu

> Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics;

> autism hereditary?

>

>

> I started taking notes of families from three

> different sources about 7 months ago.

>

> In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700

> families. I excluded all families (like mine) with

> an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter

> (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about

> 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger

> NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger

> ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the

> older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before

> age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like

> .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and

> mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That

> gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 --

> depending now how you count the two ASD kids I

> found.

>

> So I believe that autism is only herediary when both

> kids are vaccinated.

>

> I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier

> (according to every parent I've talked to). I have

> a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got

> eczema for the first time at six months. She had

> had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no

> thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was

> misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR

> which was not authorized), but is so much healthier

> -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice

> -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my

> fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of

> mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved

> bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of

> chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems

> after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia

> (the last one ended him in the hospital for two

> days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD

> improved) when he took him off milk

>

> Vera

> mnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know if there have been any studies done

> comparing the

> two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer

> health issues.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Discover

> Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more.

> Check it out!

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

re the meningitis vaccine;

There are so many strains of meningitis but the

vaccine only covers the bacterial caused by the " C "

strain. The vaccine does not contain the " B " strain,

the most common strain of meningococcus.

Vaccination against meningitis in children under two

may make them more susceptible to the disease rather

than conferring protection, according to a new study.

http://www.nursingtimes.net/nav?pag...esource=2246191

But I can understand your concerns. It's a

frightening illness.

--- Vera <sircarlito@...> wrote:

> Hi

>

> I should have mentioned my children are 15 months

> apart, and while I knew my son had had a severe

> regression after his 10 month dtap, I still did not

> understand (about the seriousness of the thimerasol

> issue) until after my daughter had received her 5

> shots -- which is nothing compared to what most of

> our ASD kids. And quite franky, right now I do not

> trust the labels that pharma is putting on the

> shots. I would not blink an eye if I found out that

> they were putting mercury back in to keep autism

> rates up. What can I say -- we've been burned.

>

> Unlike most, I am still not a purist. If for

> example, they came out with a mercury-free safer

> meningitis shot, I still might consider it for my NT

> daughter. I'm with you, no way will my son ever

> receive another shot.

>

> Vera

>

> karen beauvais <jesusnowworld@...> wrote:

> They will be eating snowcones in **ell before I ever

> vaccinate my ASD child.

> I cannot understand why anyone would, it seems like

> insult to injury.(no pun intended)

> After reading EOH I am done with vaccinations for my

> kids.

> I am stunned at how underregulated the vaccine

> program is in this country.

> One is thing is for sure, no one is thinking about

> our children's safety in the entire process.

> Hot lots aren't pulled, no one is concerned about

> injecting toxins in babies and our government

> shields the manufacturer from liability.

> No thanks keep your dang shots.

>

>

> angela watters <aangelbaby66@...> wrote:

> my autistic son is vaxed and my NT 5 yr old is just

> starting his vaxs now 1 shot at a time and NO mercu

> Re: Vaxed vs Unvaxed Autistics;

> autism hereditary?

>

>

> I started taking notes of families from three

> different sources about 7 months ago.

>

> In summary -- I have taken notes on about 700

> families. I excluded all families (like mine) with

> an older ASD son and a younger un-vax NT daughter

> (due to the gender discrepancy in ASD). I had about

> 500 families left with an older ASD vax and younger

> NT unvax. Of the 500 families, only 2 had younger

> ASD un-vax siblings which were far milder than the

> older kids (and one recovered with bio-med before

> age 2). So I came up with a rate of something like

> .25 (the other ASD kids was very mild and

> mainstreamed -- a counted him as .25) per 500. That

> gives a very rough herditary rate of 1 in 2000 --

> depending now how you count the two ASD kids I

> found.

>

> So I believe that autism is only herediary when both

> kids are vaccinated.

>

> I think unvaxed kids are much much healthier

> (according to every parent I've talked to). I have

> a younger (under-vaccinated) sibling. She got

> eczema for the first time at six months. She had

> had 1 HIB and one Dtap. The ped had told me no

> thimerasol -- I found out he either lied or was

> misinformed. She got one more of each (and an MMR

> which was not authorized), but is so much healthier

> -- two colds in two years and the stomach flu twice

> -- no allergies; no asthma. Compare that to my

> fully vaccinated son who received 145 micrograms of

> mercury -- allergies (we just found out his beloved

> bananas were the single biggest source), 6 months of

> chronic ear infections, 5 months of gastro problems

> after his third dtap, and 3 bouts with pnuemonia

> (the last one ended him in the hospital for two

> days). The ear infections stopped (and ASD

> improved) when he took him off milk

>

> Vera

> mnkygrl9 <mnkygrl9@...> wrote:

> Does anyone know if there have been any studies done

> comparing the

> two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer

> health issues.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dosing with probiotics during antibiotic use and for several weeks

afterwards can prevent the yeast overgrowth. You have to find a good

brand because some of them are quite useless. I have only had

antibiotics a few times in my life and I've always used a probiotic

to prevent digestive problems. I have a terrible digestive system!

The last thing I need is to f**k it up any further!

Deborah

> > Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing

the

> > two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health

issues.

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[Guest guest]

Hi

Given the lyme-autism connection, and that antibiotics can make lyme better, I'd

suggest

lyme testing, specifically the Lyme Western Blot Panel from Igenex Labs in Palo

Alto. Of

course, check to see if you need to stop antibiotics prior to testing.

Best,

jill

> > Does anyone know if there have been any studies done comparing the

> > two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health issues.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Simon -

I know how you feel - it's this gnawing ache in the pit of your

stomache. We were told " use of antibiotics for an ear infection or

sinusitis is not a contraindication not to vaccinate " .

received all his vaccinations (except the birth Hep while on

antibiotics.

You would think that the doctors would know not to vaccinate kids on

antibiotics! The research has been out there for years (early

1980's - I.R. Rowland for Rats & mice) You would have thought that

they would have put 2+2 together.

Kasemodel

> > Does anyone know if there have been any studies done

comparing

> the

> > two? I'm wondering if unvaxed autistics have fewer health

> issues.

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