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I really hope someone can help. Our 9 1/2 year old son was diagnosed with ADHD

and OCD,

both within the past three months. Since he started Adderall, his OCD symptoms

became

undeniable, and he was subsequently started on Luvox with good (but not great)

results.

Over the past 2 months his rituals have become more frequent and more plentiful,

and his

obsessions have increased, as well.

I am desperately looking for a cognitive-behavioral psychologist who has

experience in

working with children with OCD. So far I have been unsuccessful. We live near

Santa

Barbara, CA, but I'm willing to travel as far south as LA in order to get the

treatment

he needs. Does anyone out there have any suggestions?

Thank you all for taking the time to read this, and for being here. This has

been a long

and arduous road, and clearly one which is no where near over. I so appreciate

the

support and the collective wisdom of all parents out there who have been through

the same

thing with their children.

patti

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HI Patti:

Some referral resources you might try are:

1) OC Foundation (http://www.ocfoundation.org)

2) OCSDA (http://www.ocsda.org) - I'm not sure how active this

organization is right now, but they are the only one which screens

their referrals.

3) AABT (http://www.aabt.org) - American Academy of Behavior

Therapy

4) ADAA (http://www.adaa.org) _ Anxiety Disorders Association of

America

We have found the best referrals come from other families with kids

with OCD. If you network with organizations of parents with kids

with NBDs, hopefully you can find some good referral sources. Some of

us have found good prospects by contacting university Psychology

departments and getting referrals to behaviorally-trained

psychologists in the clinical psych area.

Perhaps the UCLA OCD center has referrals in the Santa Barbara area.

We were planning to fly to LA to take Steve there when he first got

ill but thanks to lucky networking after 12 different tries we found a

gem right here in our own state. Good luck, please keep us posted

on your progress to find a suitable CBT therapist. Take care,

aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> I really hope someone can help. Our 9 1/2 year old son was

diagnosed with ADHD and OCD,

> both within the past three months. Since he started Adderall, his

OCD symptoms became

> undeniable, and he was subsequently started on Luvox with good (but

not great) results.

> Over the past 2 months his rituals have become more frequent and

more plentiful, and his

> obsessions have increased, as well.

>

> I am desperately looking for a cognitive-behavioral psychologist who

has experience in

> working with children with OCD. So far I have been unsuccessful.

We live near Santa

> Barbara, CA, but I'm willing to travel as far south as LA in order

to get the treatment

> he needs. Does anyone out there have any suggestions?

>

> Thank you all for taking the time to read this, and for being here.

This has been a long

> and arduous road, and clearly one which is no where near over. I so

appreciate the

> support and the collective wisdom of all parents out there who have

been through the same

> thing with their children.

>

> patti

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HI Patti:

Some referral resources you might try are:

1) OC Foundation (http://www.ocfoundation.org)

2) OCSDA (http://www.ocsda.org) - I'm not sure how active this

organization is right now, but they are the only one which screens

their referrals.

3) AABT (http://www.aabt.org) - American Academy of Behavior

Therapy

4) ADAA (http://www.adaa.org) _ Anxiety Disorders Association of

America

We have found the best referrals come from other families with kids

with OCD. If you network with organizations of parents with kids

with NBDs, hopefully you can find some good referral sources. Some of

us have found good prospects by contacting university Psychology

departments and getting referrals to behaviorally-trained

psychologists in the clinical psych area.

Perhaps the UCLA OCD center has referrals in the Santa Barbara area.

We were planning to fly to LA to take Steve there when he first got

ill but thanks to lucky networking after 12 different tries we found a

gem right here in our own state. Good luck, please keep us posted

on your progress to find a suitable CBT therapist. Take care,

aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> I really hope someone can help. Our 9 1/2 year old son was

diagnosed with ADHD and OCD,

> both within the past three months. Since he started Adderall, his

OCD symptoms became

> undeniable, and he was subsequently started on Luvox with good (but

not great) results.

> Over the past 2 months his rituals have become more frequent and

more plentiful, and his

> obsessions have increased, as well.

>

> I am desperately looking for a cognitive-behavioral psychologist who

has experience in

> working with children with OCD. So far I have been unsuccessful.

We live near Santa

> Barbara, CA, but I'm willing to travel as far south as LA in order

to get the treatment

> he needs. Does anyone out there have any suggestions?

>

> Thank you all for taking the time to read this, and for being here.

This has been a long

> and arduous road, and clearly one which is no where near over. I so

appreciate the

> support and the collective wisdom of all parents out there who have

been through the same

> thing with their children.

>

> patti

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Kathy,

Thanks for the web sites and words of encouragement. We have three appointments

with

three different psychologists this week -- fingers are crossed that one will be

able to

help. Interestingly, one reports some success (with approximately 8 patients

aged 4 to

6) using a combination of CBT, EMDR, and hypnosis. Anyone ever had experience

with this

combo? It sounds intriguing, but I enter into that experience with some

skepticism (call

me a cynic -- but a cynic who will try anything reasonable which holds some

promise that

it will help my son!).

Yes, I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the support, y'all.

patti

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Kathy,

Thanks for the web sites and words of encouragement. We have three appointments

with

three different psychologists this week -- fingers are crossed that one will be

able to

help. Interestingly, one reports some success (with approximately 8 patients

aged 4 to

6) using a combination of CBT, EMDR, and hypnosis. Anyone ever had experience

with this

combo? It sounds intriguing, but I enter into that experience with some

skepticism (call

me a cynic -- but a cynic who will try anything reasonable which holds some

promise that

it will help my son!).

Yes, I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for the support, y'all.

patti

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Patti, I don't have any answers but I'll be interested to see what

others have to say. I do want to mention that my OCD son was

getting OT from someone who was also licensed in hypnosis. I sort

of " jokingly " asked her couldn't she just hypnotize him out of the

OCD and she seriously said " no " that hypnosis wouldn't work for

that. My own thinking, of course, is I'm willing to try anything,

but I suppose it's because OCD is neurologically caused.

> Kathy,

> Thanks for the web sites and words of encouragement. We have three

appointments with

> three different psychologists this week -- fingers are crossed that

one will be able to

> help. Interestingly, one reports some success (with approximately

8 patients aged 4 to

> 6) using a combination of CBT, EMDR, and hypnosis. Anyone ever had

experience with this

> combo? It sounds intriguing, but I enter into that experience with

some skepticism (call

> me a cynic -- but a cynic who will try anything reasonable which

holds some promise that

> it will help my son!).

>

> Yes, I'll keep you posted.

>

> Thanks for the support, y'all.

> patti

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In a message dated 12/17/01 3:51:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

patti_wilczek@... writes:

> if only we had some magic wand to wave and make our kids/partners/loved ones

> okay.

Patti

Boy do I agree with you on that! :)

Tammy

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In a message dated 12/17/01 3:51:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,

patti_wilczek@... writes:

> if only we had some magic wand to wave and make our kids/partners/loved ones

> okay.

Patti

Boy do I agree with you on that! :)

Tammy

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Dear ,

if only we had some magic wand to wave and make our kids/partners/loved ones

okay. This

feels so uncontrollable -- really hard for control freaks, like me!

Thanks for the thoughts.

patti in CA

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Dear ,

if only we had some magic wand to wave and make our kids/partners/loved ones

okay. This

feels so uncontrollable -- really hard for control freaks, like me!

Thanks for the thoughts.

patti in CA

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HI Patti:

I learned a lot about effective OCD treatment from lurking on the

now-defunct OCD-List. Dr. Jim Claiborn, who practices in New

England, is a dedicated on-line free service provider to OCD sufferers

who has tried many different modalities. He is a regular presenter at

the annual OCF conference as well as being a board member.

He has found that hypnosis is not effective for OCD and I believe this

has been tested with similar results in the scientific literature.

While he uses EMDR for some of his patients he does not find it

helpful for those with OCD. I have read that docs speculate that when

EMDR is effective with OCD it is because it is a form of exposure

which is part of E & RP. Since the response prevention part of E & RP is

very important, if that is combined with EMDR you might find your son

benefits.

We have also trod that slippery path of not wanting to challenge the

docs treatment plan when it does not follow the expert consensus

guidelines. What I found was a successful compromise was to have

every other session dedicated to E & RP only and other sessions for

other " issues " (in the same week). If you find the doc sticks to this

they will notice how much more effective the E & RP sessions are and

start to increase their frequency. If they are avoiding motivating

your son to do the more aversive E & RP, then you may have to switch to

another provider. We went through a dozen m.h. professionals before

finding a good match, the struggle was tough but well worth it.

Do not apologize for being a cynic - I think you mean a savvy mental

health services consumer on behalf of your son. He is very lucky to

have you looking out for his best interests so well. Good luck,

please keep us posted on his progress, take care,aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> Kathy,

> Thanks for the web sites and words of encouragement. We have three

appointments with

> three different psychologists this week -- fingers are crossed that

one will be able to

> help. Interestingly, one reports some success (with approximately 8

patients aged 4 to

> 6) using a combination of CBT, EMDR, and hypnosis. Anyone ever had

experience with this

> combo? It sounds intriguing, but I enter into that experience with

some skepticism (call

> me a cynic -- but a cynic who will try anything reasonable which

holds some promise that

> it will help my son!).

>

> Yes, I'll keep you posted.

>

> Thanks for the support, y'all.

> patti

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Kathy, thanks so much for the info on hypnosis and EMDR for OCD. I have been

doing some

research on my own and have come up with similar conclusions. Besides, the m.h.

pro

no-showed for our first appointment! Not a good sign.....

We've had good meetings with two psychologists using conventionally agreed upon

techniques. So, it seems that we are on some track -- on the right one? One

can only

hope!

Have a wonderful holiday season, one and all.

patti in CA

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HI Patti:

Thanks for your good wishes. Sorry about the no-show but that is

probably much better than getting going and things not working out.

I am glad to hear that you have two good prospects lined up. You

can stay in touch with them and monitor treatment goal achievement

and progress to ensure that everything is going according to your

needs.

Please keep us posted on progress. Happy holidays, take care,

aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> Kathy, thanks so much for the info on hypnosis and EMDR for OCD. I

have been doing some

> research on my own and have come up with similar conclusions.

Besides, the m.h. pro

> no-showed for our first appointment! Not a good sign.....

>

> We've had good meetings with two psychologists using conventionally

agreed upon

> techniques. So, it seems that we are on some track -- on the right

one? One can only

> hope!

>

> Have a wonderful holiday season, one and all.

> patti in CA

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