Guest guest Posted March 31, 2004 Report Share Posted March 31, 2004 Patti, I know what you mean! I got a brand new scale and measured out some Sweet Orange E/O--some had dribbled a bit down the side of the cup I guess and it immediatly ate the plastic surface before I could even clean it off. Makes you wonder about some of this stuff, we must use with care and get all the info. we can. Like Wintergreen E/O for example, less than 1/4 tsp. may kill a child. So all of us have to make sure these things are stored out of reach of any children or pets. Actually, any other people 'cause some of the E/Os can cause an epilectic to have an attack, and some are very dangerous and shouldn't be used by anyone that is pregnant or nursing. =^..^= Sandy > We had a counter top which had been resurfaced... some residue from an FO ate right thru it causing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2004 Report Share Posted April 1, 2004 Yes, this is why I am always nagging people to use low percentages of EOs when they are formulating for skin care. These things are powerful! However, two other things in your post jumped out at me... One, you would be hard pressed to find, and experts in the field of AT have not seen in years - any real Wintergreen EO. The main chemical constituent of REAL Wintergreen EO is methyl salicylate (a bad, nasty liver toxin) to about 98%. It is so much easier and cheaper for the unscrupulous - of whom there are a lot in AT, just as there are in other fields - to pour out a bottle of methyl sal and slap a Wintergreen EO label on it, so that is what is done. I know experts in AT who tell me they haven't seen a real Wintergreen EO in decades. Also, it is NOT TRUE that EOs can bring on an attack in epileptics. In fact, Rosemary EO, the one you most often hear this fairy tale about, has been used in clinical trials to RELIEVE epileptic attacks. There has never been any proof of EOs causing epileptic attacks, it is one of the AT myths form the many AT novels that plagiarize off one another from inaccurate info. Thirdly, the biggest consumer of EOs in the wholesale market are the food industry. Most of our foods and toothpastes, mouthwashes, sodas, candies, etc., have EOs in them for flavoring, albeit parts per million. So pregnant women would have to stop eating altogether to avoid EO use, they get it every day. Again, to the best of my knowledge there is no documented case of EOs causing adverse reactions during pregnancy. None. Having said that, as a practitioner I never used EOs with pregnant women. I know that doesn't make sense after what I said. But my feeling was that if one of my clients was pregnant, and she should have unexplained complications down the road unrelated to AT, I didn't want the use of Aromatherapy to even cross her mind as a possible cause. Would I use EOs in pregnancy if it were me or a loved one, yes I would. But I would dose as though I were dosing for the infant, not the mother. (NOTE- do NOT use EOs on infants!) But a little Lavender on a cotton pad tucked into a pillow for a pregnant Mom having trouble sleeping, or some such is generally not harmful, but always get the Dr's ok. All these unfounded cautions that pop up in the Aromatherapy novels for use during pregnancy, with epilepsy or high BP are purely anecdotal based on the herbal use of the plant, not on the EO. There ARE many EOs that are unsafe for use by ANYONE, epileptic or not, pregnant or not (Wintergreen being one of them). IF you are using EOs in your products, it is worth the money to you, your loved ones and your clients to research REAL AT books, not the AT novels. Best wishes- Lynda Vaux wrote: >Patti, I know what you mean! I got a brand new scale and measured out some >Sweet Orange E/O--some had dribbled a bit down the side of the cup I guess >and it immediatly ate the plastic surface before I could even clean it off. >Makes you wonder about some of this stuff, we must use with care and get all >the info. we can. Like Wintergreen E/O for example, less than 1/4 tsp. may >kill a child. So all of us have to make sure these things are stored out of >reach of any children or pets. Actually, any other people 'cause some of the >E/Os can cause an epilectic to have an attack, and some are very dangerous >and shouldn't be used by anyone that is pregnant or nursing. >=^..^= Sandy > > -- Lynda Sorenson http://Luna-Aromatics.com The home of " Arizona Balm " The natural solution to dry problem skin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Would you be able to recommend a couple reliable AT books/guides and perhaps some books on herbs as well? I am looking for a really good source. Thank you, Lynda, and anyone else that kindly replies. Drae Ocean Moon > [Original Message] > From: Lynda Sorenson <lynda@...> > < > > Date: 4/1/04 9:37:27 AM > Subject: Re: FOs & EOs Use-Care > > Yes, this is why I am always nagging people to use low percentages of > EOs when they are formulating for skin care. These things are > powerful! However, two other things in your post jumped out at me... > > One, you would be hard pressed to find, and experts in the field of AT > have not seen in years - any real Wintergreen EO. The main chemical > constituent of REAL Wintergreen EO is methyl salicylate (a bad, nasty > liver toxin) to about 98%. It is so much easier and cheaper for the > unscrupulous - of whom there are a lot in AT, just as there are in other > fields - to pour out a bottle of methyl sal and slap a Wintergreen EO > label on it, so that is what is done. I know experts in AT who tell me > they haven't seen a real Wintergreen EO in decades. > > Also, it is NOT TRUE that EOs can bring on an attack in epileptics. In > fact, Rosemary EO, the one you most often hear this fairy tale about, > has been used in clinical trials to RELIEVE epileptic attacks. There > has never been any proof of EOs causing epileptic attacks, it is one of > the AT myths form the many AT novels that plagiarize off one another > from inaccurate info. > > Thirdly, the biggest consumer of EOs in the wholesale market are the > food industry. Most of our foods and toothpastes, mouthwashes, sodas, > candies, etc., have EOs in them for flavoring, albeit parts per > million. So pregnant women would have to stop eating altogether to > avoid EO use, they get it every day. Again, to the best of my knowledge > there is no documented case of EOs causing adverse reactions during > pregnancy. None. Having said that, as a practitioner I never used EOs > with pregnant women. I know that doesn't make sense after what I said. > But my feeling was that if one of my clients was pregnant, and she > should have unexplained complications down the road unrelated to AT, I > didn't want the use of Aromatherapy to even cross her mind as a possible > cause. Would I use EOs in pregnancy if it were me or a loved one, yes I > would. But I would dose as though I were dosing for the infant, not > the mother. (NOTE- do NOT use EOs on infants!) But a little Lavender > on a cotton pad tucked into a pillow for a pregnant Mom having trouble > sleeping, or some such is generally not harmful, but always get the Dr's ok. > > All these unfounded cautions that pop up in the Aromatherapy novels for > use during pregnancy, with epilepsy or high BP are purely anecdotal > based on the herbal use of the plant, not on the EO. > > There ARE many EOs that are unsafe for use by ANYONE, epileptic or not, > pregnant or not (Wintergreen being one of them). IF you are using EOs > in your products, it is worth the money to you, your loved ones and your > clients to research REAL AT books, not the AT novels. > > Best wishes- > Lynda > > Vaux wrote: > > >Patti, I know what you mean! I got a brand new scale and measured out some > >Sweet Orange E/O--some had dribbled a bit down the side of the cup I guess > >and it immediatly ate the plastic surface before I could even clean it off. > >Makes you wonder about some of this stuff, we must use with care and get all > >the info. we can. Like Wintergreen E/O for example, less than 1/4 tsp. may > >kill a child. So all of us have to make sure these things are stored out of > >reach of any children or pets. Actually, any other people 'cause some of the > >E/Os can cause an epilectic to have an attack, and some are very dangerous > >and shouldn't be used by anyone that is pregnant or nursing. > >=^..^= Sandy > > > > > > -- > Lynda Sorenson > http://Luna-Aromatics.com > The home of " Arizona Balm " The natural solution to dry problem skin > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 - I LOVE Watts' book 'Plant Aromatics' It is only available from Butch at www.av-at.com. It gives great guidelines on how to use (and not use LOL) EOs in skin care preparations. 's website at www.aromamedical.com has lots of great info as well. My other favorite book does need some updating with new info, but it is still one of the best out there, just a little pricey, and that is Sylla Shepherd Hangar's 'The Aromatherapy Practitioner's Guide'. I believe that Butch sells that one as well, as does Marge at Nature's Gift. Another less expensive but pretty good is Salvatore Battaglia's 'The Complete Guide to Aromatherapy' even though I object to the world complete in ANY title. And Mojay has written a good book on the esoteric uses of EOs in 'Aromatherapy For Healing the Sprit'. I like Jennine Stromkins' 'The Autonomic Nervous System and Aromatherapy' (not as scary as it sounds), and Wanda Sellars' 'The Guide to Essential Oils'. Lawless' 'Guide to Essential Oils' is good for beginning reference, but you will soon move beyond that. I would avoid like the plague any book written by the Schillers, since I have seen first hand their appalling lack of AT knowledge and dangerous teachings - through what I feel is sheer ignorance on their part; unlike Young and anyone involved in Young Living EOs, who I would blame for a dangerous combination of ignorance and sheer evil in that they advocate dangerous practices purely for profit, and use religion as a selling point. Anyone who would do that to make money scares me! HTH, and if you have other questions, let me know! Lynda wrote: >Would you be able to recommend a couple reliable AT books/guides and >perhaps some books on herbs as well? I am looking for a really good >source. Thank you, Lynda, and anyone else that kindly replies. > > -- Lynda Sorenson http://Luna-Aromatics.com The home of " Arizona Balm " The natural solution to dry problem skin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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