Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 I have been reticent about putting into words the feelings I am having concerning the situation with my son at his school. He has been repidly been spiralling out of control over the last few weeks, especially at school. I thought that the paraprofessional who was assigned to him was going to be given another assignment and that they were going to bring in another person who was more experienced for him. Because the person who has been working with him dosn't want to go to another assignment, they cannot replace her at this time. I am really having a lot of emotionally charged feelings of anger, annoyance and complete disgust with this type of thinking from the para. I am not at all grateful that this person still wants to work with my son, as it is crystal clear to me that he is not getting the help regulating his behavior that he needs and because of that he is out of control a good part of the time. His behavior then escalates and he spent all of las Wednesday afternoon freaking out in in-school suspension. I spent most of the last week in meetings about this situation or with him in his classroom observing and helping him. Tommy needs a combination tour guide, police officer and nagging wife in order to get through the day sucessfully! The person who is working with him thinks that if she tells him something once that is enough. She thinks that keeping him his classroom for tests is the right thing to do. I am completely disgusted because this stuff is in his IEP and it is being ignored. I also believe that the best interest of my son's mental health is being disregarded over a Human Resources issue. Have any of you experienced this happening? When my sonwas is first grade, many mistakes of this nature were made and he almost had to be hospitalized because the situation affected him so profoundly. He could not return to the classroom until 2nd grade. Knowing this, you would think that the para would be able to put her own feelings aside and do what is best for this child! I am in the process of finding out what my legal rights are in this situation as Tommy needs me to help him. in Southeastern PA --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Oh , good luck! I know how stressed I get whenever I deal with the school and teachers! I assume this aide has READ the IEP?! Maybe you should hand the aide a copy and tell her to keep this with her at all times and follow it OR you'll be going over the school's head to the administrative office/state office. Throw in the federal law part about IEP's too. I'm assuming that everything needed IS in the IEP? What did everyone say at the meetings about the aide other than that she doesn't want another job? So far as telling him something only once - is this addressed in the IEP about prompting him? And by having to have YOU there a couple days, they must realize that things aren't working out with the aide?! I hope others here have some great ideas for you!! I'm stressed worrying about what MIGHT come up at school that we haven't covered for this year yet and that's not in 's 504. So far his teachers this year just think I'm TOO concerned and maybe looking for problems where there aren't any! Hang in there, I KNOW that you can be more assertive/demanding than me! > I have been reticent about putting into words the feelings I am having concerning the situation with my son at his school. He has been repidly been spiralling out of control over the last few weeks, especially at school. I thought that the paraprofessional who was assigned to him was going to be given another assignment and that they were going to bring in another person who was more experienced for him. Because the person who has been working with him dosn't want to go to another assignment, they cannot replace her at this time. I am really having a lot of emotionally charged feelings of anger, annoyance and complete disgust with this type of thinking from the para. I am not at all grateful that this person still wants to work with my son, as it is crystal clear to me that he is not getting the help regulating his behavior that he needs and because of that he is out of control a good part of the time. His behavior then escalates and he spent all of las Wednesday afternoon freaking out in in-school suspension. I spent most of the last week in meetings about this situation or with him in his classroom observing and helping him. Tommy needs a combination tour guide, police officer and nagging wife in order to get through the day sucessfully! The person who is working with him thinks that if she tells him something once that is enough. She thinks that keeping him his classroom for tests is the right thing to do. I am completely disgusted because this stuff is in his IEP and it is being ignored. I also believe that the best interest of my son's mental health is being disregarded over a Human Resources issue. Have any of you experienced this happening? When my sonwas is first grade, many mistakes of this nature were made and he almost had to be hospitalized because the situation affected him so profoundly. He could not return to the classroom until 2nd grade. Knowing this, you would think that the para would be able to put her own feelings aside and do what is best for this child! I am in the process of finding out what my legal rights are in this situation as Tommy needs me to help him. in Southeastern PA > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2001 Report Share Posted October 14, 2001 Thanks for your response. Everything that Tommy needs is addressed in the IEP. The problem we seem to be dealing with is someone who is completely inexperienced with kids who have NBD's. She doesn't understand just how much prompting this child needs...she doesn't understand that just because he is doing OK on tests in the classroom, he can do GREAT if he is tested in an area where he can dictate answers to an adult and not have to worry about giving the answers away to the rest of the class because he can't stop whispering them. The teacher yelled at me Friday because I referenced a procedure in the IEP and he is completely stressed out by this situation. Sounds like I have the most out of control kid in the school! The aide also doesn't understand that my son's AD/HD is so bad that his impulsivity takes over and controls him unless he has an adult next to him reminding him (sometimes continually) that he needs to get it together or he will have to go take a break someplace quiet. The Supervisor of Special Ed for the District I think is in agreement that this aide needs to be replaced, but because she has not done anything to be fired (yet) and she wants to work with my son they cannot force her to move to another assignment. In the meantime, he is paying the price. I have been told that she is going to be told what she has to do in order to turn things around with him and that this probation period will not be for a long period of time. I have nothing against this woman at all, except that she is not respecting the fact that my knowledge base about my son's disorder's are far superior to hers. She is the mother of three children and you would think that she would be able to understand that some kids work better with some people rather than others. I think that sometimes I can be very assertive when it comes to issues involving my children, most especially my OCD/AD/HD son and that scares some of these teachers and administrators. I have had to be a very strong advocate for my child and even though I do not profess to have all the answers for him or any one else, have been to hell and back already with him and in some areas I do know what he needs better than the school. It is also interesting that his special ed. teacher who had such good results with him over the last 2 years has not been able to make much of an impression with them either. I bought this school a copy of Dr. Chansky's book and Teaching the Tiger and gave it to them in May. I would be very surprised to find out if any of them read either of these books. I asked repeatedly this fall for the aide to have this book, yet last Thursday, the Guidance Counselor saw my copy and asked about it as she had never seen it before. She looked for the new copy in the teacher library and it was there. She took it out for the weekend. I DON'T GET THIS!!!!!! If I were inthe aide's shoes I think I would keep that book next to me in the classroom until I was getting better results from Tommy. What I really want to ask her is if she is prepared to pay my son's bills if he continues to spiral downward. I went through the exact same problems with him in first grade and he almost needed to be hospitalized because the stress was too much for him and he became very agressive with adults. This calmed down once he was with a teacher who understood him better. This new school staff just doesn't get how fragile this situation can be and I am quite scared. I think the last resort will be pulling him out of the school if they don't get it together very quickly. I need to find a job as my husband is entering the ninth month of unemployment, but Tommy will come first and I will delay reentry to the workforce if he needs me. in Southeastern PA @... wrote: Oh , good luck! I know how stressed I get whenever I deal with the school and teachers! I assume this aide has READ the IEP?! Maybe you should hand the aide a copy and tell her to keep this with her at all times and follow it OR you'll be going over the school's head to the administrative office/state office. Throw in the federal law part about IEP's too. I'm assuming that everything needed IS in the IEP? What did everyone say at the meetings about the aide other than that she doesn't want another job? So far as telling him something only once - is this addressed in the IEP about prompting him? And by having to have YOU there a couple days, they must realize that things aren't working out with the aide?! I hope others here have some great ideas for you!! I'm stressed worrying about what MIGHT come up at school that we haven't covered for this year yet and that's not in 's 504. So far his teachers this year just think I'm TOO concerned and maybe looking for problems where there aren't any! Hang in there, I KNOW that you can be more assertive/demanding than me! > I have been reticent about putting into words the feelings I am having concerning the situation with my son at his school. He has been repidly been spiralling out of control over the last few weeks, especially at school. I thought that the paraprofessional who was assigned to him was going to be given another assignment and that they were going to bring in another person who was more experienced for him. Because the person who has been working with him dosn't want to go to another assignment, they cannot replace her at this time. I am really having a lot of emotionally charged feelings of anger, annoyance and complete disgust with this type of thinking from the para. I am not at all grateful that this person still wants to work with my son, as it is crystal clear to me that he is not getting the help regulating his behavior that he needs and because of that he is out of control a good part of the time. His behavior then escalates and he spent all of las Wednesday afternoon freaking out in in-school suspension. I spent most of the last week in meetings about this situation or with him in his classroom observing and helping him. Tommy needs a combination tour guide, police officer and nagging wife in order to get through the day sucessfully! The person who is working with him thinks that if she tells him something once that is enough. She thinks that keeping him his classroom for tests is the right thing to do. I am completely disgusted because this stuff is in his IEP and it is being ignored. I also believe that the best interest of my son's mental health is being disregarded over a Human Resources issue. Have any of you experienced this happening? When my sonwas is first grade, many mistakes of this nature were made and he almost had to be hospitalized because the situation affected him so profoundly. He could not return to the classroom until 2nd grade. Knowing this, you would think that the para would be able to put her own feelings aside and do what is best for this child! I am in the process of finding out what my legal rights are in this situation as Tommy needs me to help him. in Southeastern PA > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2001 Report Share Posted October 15, 2001 , I'm sure things will work out in the long run, but I HOPE they work out soon for Tommy's sake and yours! I work in the developmental disabilities dept of our county mental health center as an office assistant/secretary. Some of our dept's clients are school-aged and need one-on-one's at school. After 5 years here, it seems the school system and at times " us " still don't know exactly how things are supposed to work; everyone has a different opinion about who is responsible for what!! But bascially the school system is because of IDEA. So " we've " dropped out of the picture regarding the aides. Anyway, I do know from all the typing I've done for goals for these kids that prompting and structure and understanding the child's diagnosis (ex - autism) is important. And listening to the case managers talk over the years, our system has apparently had good and bad aides too. Hang in there! And hope you find the perfect job!! > > I have been reticent about putting into words the feelings I am > having concerning the situation with my son at his school. He has > been repidly been spiralling out of control over the last few weeks, > especially at school. I thought that the paraprofessional who was > assigned to him was going to be given another assignment and that > they were going to bring in another person who was more experienced > for him. Because the person who has been working with him dosn't > want to go to another assignment, they cannot replace her at this > time. I am really having a lot of emotionally charged feelings of > anger, annoyance and complete disgust with this type of thinking from > the para. I am not at all grateful that this person still wants to > work with my son, as it is crystal clear to me that he is not getting > the help regulating his behavior that he needs and because of that he > is out of control a good part of the time. His behavior then > escalates and he spent all of las Wednesday afternoon freaking out in > in-school suspension. I spent most of the last week in meetings > about this situation or with him in his classroom observing and > helping him. Tommy needs a combination tour guide, police officer > and nagging wife in order to get through the day sucessfully! The > person who is working with him thinks that if she tells him something > once that is enough. She thinks that keeping him his classroom for > tests is the right thing to do. I am completely disgusted because > this stuff is in his IEP and it is being ignored. I also believe > that the best interest of my son's mental health is being disregarded > over a Human Resources issue. Have any of you experienced this > happening? When my sonwas is first grade, many mistakes of this > nature were made and he almost had to be hospitalized because the > situation affected him so profoundly. He could not return to the > classroom until 2nd grade. Knowing this, you would think that the > para would be able to put her own feelings aside and do what is best > for this child! I am in the process of finding out what my legal > rights are in this situation as Tommy needs me to help him. in > Southeastern PA > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 : Have you gone to the Head of the Special Ed department in your school district and told him/her that Tommy's IEP is not being followed? I would do this if you haven't already. Then I'd go to the superintendent, and if no luck there, find an attorney to write a letter to the superintendent. I would think a letter would do it since most school districts don't want law suits. I think it's great that you're showing your presence at school -- by now they have to know you mean business. Keep after them, as you know, they have to follow the IEP. Don't forget to take time for yourself -- take a hot bubble bath after coming back from a battle at school, or take a walk or write and vent to us. Take care of yourself and let us know how things are going. Tamra (ocdmom2001) Worried, sick and stressed > I have been reticent about putting into words the feelings I am having concerning the situation with my son at his school. He has been repidly been spiralling out of control over the last few weeks, especially at school. I thought that the paraprofessional who was assigned to him was going to be given another assignment and that they were going to bring in another person who was more experienced for him. Because the person who has been working with him dosn't want to go to another assignment, they cannot replace her at this time. I am really having a lot of emotionally charged feelings of anger, annoyance and complete disgust with this type of thinking from the para. I am not at all grateful that this person still wants to work with my son, as it is crystal clear to me that he is not getting the help regulating his behavior that he needs and because of that he is out of control a good part of the time. His behavior then escalates and he spent all of las Wednesday afternoon freaking out in in-school suspension. I spent most of the last week in meetings about this situation or with him in his classroom observing and helping him. Tommy needs a combination tour guide, police officer and nagging wife in order to get through the day sucessfully! The person who is working with him thinks that if she tells him something once that is enough. She thinks that keeping him his classroom for tests is the right thing to do. I am completely disgusted because this stuff is in his IEP and it is being ignored. I also believe that the best interest of my son's mental health is being disregarded over a Human Resources issue. Have any of you experienced this happening? When my sonwas is first grade, many mistakes of this nature were made and he almost had to be hospitalized because the situation affected him so profoundly. He could not return to the classroom until 2nd grade. Knowing this, you would think that the para would be able to put her own feelings aside and do what is best for this child! I am in th! > e process of finding out what my legal rights are in this situation as Tommy needs me to help him. in Southeastern PA > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2001 Report Share Posted October 17, 2001 There is an agency in SC and I would think in every state,called the Protection and Advocacy Board(I am almost positive this is a Federal Agency)that you can contact if the IDEA or 504 plan is not being implemented for your child.They have attorneys and they will come in to see why the school is not complying.The school will not tell you about this and neither will the special ed department,but it does exist.The schools do not want you to know about it,because they can actually close down a school. Theresa in SC --- Tamra Wulff <tjwulff@...> wrote: > : > > Have you gone to the Head of the Special Ed > department in your school >> > --------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2001 Report Share Posted October 18, 2001 Hi Tamra, The Supervisor of Special Ed has been in all of our meetings and has signaled her support of this situation. She is personally following what is happening. This week, they got a substitute teacher in for the Special Ed. teacher so that he could go into the classroom with Tommy and his aide. So far this has been his best week since school started. I have raised the question with both the Supervisor of Spec Ed. and the Spec. Ed. teacher as to what the plan is for next week. I will be in the presence of the Supervisor of Spec. Ed from 8:00 AM until 8:30 PM on Tuesday at an event that is being jointly sponsored by the school district and our parent support group. The situation with the aide is evidently a Human Resources issue that cannot be resolved unless this woman agrees to move to another job in the district or is shown to not be skilled enough to work with my son. I think what has happened this week is enough ammo to have her position changed if he starts to regress again next week. I despise going this route, but I know that in the end my credibility will be established with the administration in this school. It makes me angry that these kids mental health is tampered with to this degree by some educators that are not educated enough! Oh well, I am happy that my son is having a better week. Thanks for your support and suggestions! in Southeastern PA--- @y..., " Tamra Wulff " <tjwulff@h...> wrote: > : > > Have you gone to the Head of the Special Ed department in your school > district and told him/her that Tommy's IEP is not being followed? I would > do this if you haven't already. Then I'd go to the superintendent, and if > no luck there, find an attorney to write a letter to the superintendent. I > would think a letter would do it since most school districts don't want law > suits. > > I think it's great that you're showing your presence at school -- by now > they have to know you mean business. Keep after them, as you know, they > have to follow the IEP. Don't forget to take time for yourself -- take a > hot bubble bath after coming back from a battle at school, or take a walk or > write and vent to us. > > Take care of yourself and let us know how things are going. > > Tamra > (ocdmom2001) > > Worried, sick and stressed > > > > I have been reticent about putting into words the feelings I am having > concerning the situation with my son at his school. He has been repidly > been spiralling out of control over the last few weeks, especially at > school. I thought that the paraprofessional who was assigned to him was > going to be given another assignment and that they were going to bring in > another person who was more experienced for him. Because the person who has > been working with him dosn't want to go to another assignment, they cannot > replace her at this time. I am really having a lot of emotionally charged > feelings of anger, annoyance and complete disgust with this type of thinking > from the para. I am not at all grateful that this person still wants to > work with my son, as it is crystal clear to me that he is not getting the > help regulating his behavior that he needs and because of that he is out of > control a good part of the time. His behavior then escalates and he spent > all of las Wednesday afternoon freaking out in in-school suspension. I > spent most of the last week in meetings about this situation or with him in > his classroom observing and helping him. Tommy needs a combination tour > guide, police officer and nagging wife in order to get through the day > sucessfully! The person who is working with him thinks that if she tells > him something once that is enough. She thinks that keeping him his > classroom for tests is the right thing to do. I am completely disgusted > because this stuff is in his IEP and it is being ignored. I also believe > that the best interest of my son's mental health is being disregarded over a > Human Resources issue. Have any of you experienced this happening? When my > sonwas is first grade, many mistakes of this nature were made and he almost > had to be hospitalized because the situation affected him so profoundly. He > could not return to the classroom until 2nd grade. Knowing this, you would > think that the para would be able to put her own feelings aside and do what > is best for this child! I am in th! > > e process of finding out what my legal rights are in this situation as > Tommy needs me to help him. in Southeastern PA > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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