Re: Calories vs Fat Calories -

[Guest guest]

Here's something I've posted before about heart rates. The idea of the

20-minute solution cardio in the book is to train your heart through

all of the ranges, including flirting with your max heart rate for the

" 10 " . When I hit a 10 I'm giving it 110% literally! LOL

~~~

Heart rate formulas have never worked for me. Those formulas are just

estimates, and for a lot of people, especially older athletes in crazy

shape, they're just flat out wrong. According to my heart rate

monitor, when I'm hitting a 10 at around 200 bpm (considerably higher

than my estimated " maximum " of 182), I should be dead, or at the very

least on my way to the emergency room. I'm not, I'm flying along at

top speed, grinning like an idiot, and feeling great... you know,

right up until the lack of oxygen and lactic acid build-up hits me.

:-)

Unless you've been put on a treadmill and given a stress test by a

doctor, you have no idea what your maximum heart rate really is.

You're probably better off going by perceived exertion. Maybe walking

fast feels like a 5 to you and running full speed on a step mill feels

like a 10. If it's a 10, it's totally anaerobic and you can only

maintain it for a few seconds. If you're staying in a comfortable

zone, if you feel like you could go faster or keep doing it longer,

you're definitely not hitting a 10.

Here are some things to read:

Heart Rate Zones

http://www.skwigg.com/id10.html

Maximum Heart Rate Formula is Wrong

http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/9156.html

~~~

Now, having said that, I should definitely add a disclaimer. Consider

your fitness level and medical history before running your heart up as

fast as it goes. If you have any doubts, get cleared for takeoff by

your doctor.

On 3/9/06, CzMarie04@... <CzMarie04@...> wrote:

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>

>

> Does this hold true for using a heart rate monitor? I use to have one but

> now I can't find all the pieces to it. But I've been concerned with going

> over my designated heart rate zone. I used to wear one and it was always

> saying I was going over but if I slowed down well that didn't seem like much

of a

> workout. If you do go over what does that indicate? I figure I shouldn't

> really worry about it cause the military doesn't give every one in basic

> training a heart rate monitor and tell them to stay in their heart rate zone.

> But then again I'm in my forties not in my 20's like the kids in Basic

> Training.

>

> Colleen

[Guest guest]

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Thanks! When I recover the interval after my sprints or my immediate cool

down, I am always WAY up there in the dead category. I was wondering if I

should take it down a notch or two or three...how can you go all out and not

go there? I wondered. Now, I'm taking it on and not worrying about it.

However, the last session I had yesterday, one of the firemen at the Y (they

work out there) said, " I know CPR if you need it! " (No, he wasn't coming on

to me...I had stumbled off the machine and said, " it's like rollerskates. I

still feel like I'm on the crazy thing. " )

Thanks again,

Kari

On 3/10/06, Skwigg <skwigg@...> wrote:

>

> Here's something I've posted before about heart rates. The idea of the

> 20-minute solution cardio in the book is to train your heart through

> all of the ranges, including flirting with your max heart rate for the

> " 10 " . When I hit a 10 I'm giving it 110% literally! LOL

>

> ~~~

> Heart rate formulas have never worked for me. Those formulas are just

> estimates, and for a lot of people, especially older athletes in crazy

> shape, they're just flat out wrong. According to my heart rate

> monitor, when I'm hitting a 10 at around 200 bpm (considerably higher

> than my estimated " maximum " of 182), I should be dead, or at the very

> least on my way to the emergency room. I'm not, I'm flying along at

> top speed, grinning like an idiot, and feeling great... you know,

> right up until the lack of oxygen and lactic acid build-up hits me.

> :-)

>

> Unless you've been put on a treadmill and given a stress test by a

> doctor, you have no idea what your maximum heart rate really is.

> You're probably better off going by perceived exertion. Maybe walking

> fast feels like a 5 to you and running full speed on a step mill feels

> like a 10. If it's a 10, it's totally anaerobic and you can only

> maintain it for a few seconds. If you're staying in a comfortable

> zone, if you feel like you could go faster or keep doing it longer,

> you're definitely not hitting a 10.

>

> Here are some things to read:

>

> Heart Rate Zones

> http://www.skwigg.com/id10.html

>

> Maximum Heart Rate Formula is Wrong

> http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/9156.html

>

> ~~~

>

> Now, having said that, I should definitely add a disclaimer. Consider

> your fitness level and medical history before running your heart up as

> fast as it goes. If you have any doubts, get cleared for takeoff by

> your doctor.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On 3/9/06, CzMarie04@... <CzMarie04@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Does this hold true for using a heart rate monitor? I use to have one

> but

> > now I can't find all the pieces to it. But I've been concerned with

> going

> > over my designated heart rate zone. I used to wear one and it was

> always

> > saying I was going over but if I slowed down well that didn't seem like

> much of a

> > workout. If you do go over what does that indicate? I figure I

> shouldn't

> > really worry about it cause the military doesn't give every one in

> basic

> > training a heart rate monitor and tell them to stay in their heart rate

> zone.

> > But then again I'm in my forties not in my 20's like the kids in Basic

> > Training.

> >

> > Colleen

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kari -

I continue to do my cardio for longer than the 20 minutes, AT A LOWER

INTENSITY/SPEED - until I can safely get off the machine without still 'racing'

ie, - the one-minute cooldown is not enuf for me; I add up to 10 minutes of

gentle activity, so that when I get off, I'm walking and breathing normally

n

At 09:19 AM 3/10/2006, you wrote:

> -

>Thanks! When I recover the interval after my sprints or my immediate cool

>down, I am always WAY up there in the dead category. I was wondering if I

>should take it down a notch or two or three...how can you go all out and not

>go there? I wondered. Now, I'm taking it on and not worrying about it.

>

>However, the last session I had yesterday, one of the firemen at the Y (they

>work out there) said, " I know CPR if you need it! " (No, he wasn't coming on

>to me...I had stumbled off the machine and said, " it's like rollerskates. I

>still feel like I'm on the crazy thing. " )

>

>Thanks again,

>Kari