Re: Digest Number 324

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2nd'd

Long term, any plastic will eventually breakdown from acid exposure. Even

those used in the medical prosthetic industry have a life expectancy of ten

years due to bio acids.

Re: Digest Number 324

> I assume if it is

> good enough for wine, it should be good enough for kombucha as well.

>

> michael.

Hi ,

IMHO just because a container is used for something else doesn't

necessarily mean it's appropriate. A fellow kt brewer here in my town

just switched to plastic - she was not concerned about leaching - in

fact, she said it tasted better. Hmmmm....I'm thinking if it's

affecting the flavor - whether good or bad - it's imparting some of

it's components. Which, in the case of plastic that something would

be petroleum based. With all the other brewing vessels available -

both large and small - why take the chance?

Drink Safe...Randie

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ok, sounds good... I'll stick with glass.

But what are my options when it comes to larger containers like 3, 4 or

more gallons?

michael.

>IMHO just because a container is used for something else doesn't

>necessarily mean it's appropriate. A fellow kt brewer here in my town

>just switched to plastic - she was not concerned about leaching - in

>fact, she said it tasted better. Hmmmm....I'm thinking if it's

>affecting the flavor - whether good or bad - it's imparting some of

>it's components. Which, in the case of plastic that something would

>be petroleum based. With all the other brewing vessels available -

>both large and small - why take the chance?

>

>Drink Safe...Randie

>

>

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Maybe this has been posted already, but Anchor Hocking makes two-

gallon and two-and-a-half-gallon glass jars. If you were looking for

larger sizes, personally, I'd simply use more containers rather than

bigger ones. Those things can get so heavy and hard to decant when

full! An all-glass fishbowl would be another option, but I don't know

how large they run.

HTH,

Nori

> ok, sounds good... I'll stick with glass.

>

> But what are my options when it comes to larger containers like 3, 4

or more gallons?

[Guest guest]

>Maybe this has been posted already, but Anchor Hocking makes two-

>gallon and two-and-a-half-gallon glass jars. If you were looking for

>larger sizes, personally, I'd simply use more containers rather than

>bigger ones.

>

I did see those on the web when I was looking for big jars but not sure

where to get those in Canada. Walmart doesn't have them. Although they

seem to have other Anchor Hocking products (I think). No Targets either.

Anyhow I'd prefer at least 3-4 gallons.

> Those things can get so heavy and hard to decant when

>full!

>

I don't mind how heavy they are since I just siphon with a tube and a

clamp to turn it on and off. (from the wine brewing store, very cheap)

Works very well.

>An all-glass fishbowl would be another option, but I don't know

>how large they run.

>

>

I guess I should look at fishbowls then.

michael.

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Hi,

Here is a link to spigots and the five gallon buckets. These buckets work good.

I have fermented in them for years with no problems. Mike

http://www.morebeer.com/browse.html?category_id=2388 & keyword= & x=1 & y=1

>Maybe this has been posted already, but Anchor Hocking makes two-

>gallon and two-and-a-half-gallon glass jars. If you were looking for

>larger sizes, personally, I'd simply use more containers rather than

>bigger ones.

>

I did see those on the web when I was looking for big jars but not sure

where to get those in Canada. Walmart doesn't have them. Although they

seem to have other Anchor Hocking products (I think). No Targets either.

Anyhow I'd prefer at least 3-4 gallons.

> Those things can get so heavy and hard to decant when

>full!

>

I don't mind how heavy they are since I just siphon with a tube and a

clamp to turn it on and off. (from the wine brewing store, very cheap)

Works very well.

>An all-glass fishbowl would be another option, but I don't know

>how large they run.

>

>

I guess I should look at fishbowls then.

michael.

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The glass carboy sounds like a great idea if you can cut the top off with a

glass cutter. As you remember from chemistry class, acids are stored in

glass because glass is non-reactive. Kombucha becomes increasingly acidic

and the petrochemicals will leach into the brew over time. This may be a

problem with ceramic crocks too; even if the glaze has no lead in it, there

are other chemicals in it that are VERY toxic - so much so that ceramists

get brain cancer.

Re: Digest Number 324

> Hi,

> Here is a link to spigots and the five gallon buckets. These buckets work

> good. I have fermented in them for years with no problems. Mike

> http://www.morebeer.com/browse.html?category_id=2388 & keyword= & x=1 & y=1

>

>

> >Maybe this has been posted already, but Anchor Hocking makes two-

> >gallon and two-and-a-half-gallon glass jars. If you were looking for

> >larger sizes, personally, I'd simply use more containers rather than

> >bigger ones.

> >

> I did see those on the web when I was looking for big jars but not sure

> where to get those in Canada. Walmart doesn't have them. Although they

> seem to have other Anchor Hocking products (I think). No Targets either.

> Anyhow I'd prefer at least 3-4 gallons.

>

> > Those things can get so heavy and hard to decant when

> >full!

> >

> I don't mind how heavy they are since I just siphon with a tube and a

> clamp to turn it on and off. (from the wine brewing store, very cheap)

> Works very well.

>

> >An all-glass fishbowl would be another option, but I don't know

> >how large they run.

> >

> >

> I guess I should look at fishbowls then.

>

> michael.

>

>

>

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In Reply to Mike Tina,

Thank you for the link - I have used a plastic food quality bucket, similar to

the ones in the catalogue,

with the tap (spigot) at the bottom. It is around 12 to 15 litre capacity. I

have used it for 18 to 20 years.

I make 6 to 8 litres at a time, decant into 2litre Cola PET bottles, grade 1 and

leave 2 or 3 litres in the

bottom with the culture til I am next ready to brew.

I recall some years ago rusty and others, of the leaching theory, suggested that

I would be consuming

petrochemicals, but the bucket remains the same weight and I don't appear to

have suffered ill effects.

Use glass by all means if you have strong beliefs, but for myself and many

others brewing in Plastic

is fine. I guess a million Aussie beer brewers could be wrong, but they are

unlikely to admit it either.

stay well, Trevor www.kombuchaustralia.com

Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:13:13 -0500

From: " Mike Tina " <mbs@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 324

Hi,

Here is a link to spigots and the five gallon buckets. These buckets work good.

I have fermented in them for years with no problems. Mike

http://www.morebeer.com/browse.html?category_id=2388 & keyword= & x=1 & y=1

>Maybe this has been posted already, but Anchor Hocking makes two-

>gallon and two-and-a-half-gallon glass jars. If you were looking for

>larger sizes, personally, I'd simply use more containers rather than

>bigger ones.

>

I did see those on the web when I was looking for big jars but not sure

where to get those in Canada. Walmart doesn't have them. Although they

seem to have other Anchor Hocking products (I think). No Targets either.

Anyhow I'd prefer at least 3-4 gallons.

> Those things can get so heavy and hard to decant when

>full!

>

I don't mind how heavy they are since I just siphon with a tube and a

clamp to turn it on and off. (from the wine brewing store, very cheap)

Works very well.

>An all-glass fishbowl would be another option, but I don't know

>how large they run.

>

>

I guess I should look at fishbowls then.

michael.

[Guest guest]

I bought several 1 gallon anchor hocking jars at my locate Walmart,

for $6.97 each plus tax. The tea brews well in these and the scoby

looked great, big and thicker then my sun tea jar scobys. But

pouring out of these jars is a trip. I use 1 jar to store extra

scoby's.

> > ok, sounds good... I'll stick with glass.

> >

> > But what are my options when it comes to larger containers like

3, 4

> or more gallons?

[Guest guest]

HI ,

I found my one gallon and two gallon jars at Walmart.

They have nice wide mouths and are easy to manage.

Hope this helps, Myrna

[Guest guest]

hmm, our local walmarts (at least the 5 or 6 I've checked) don't have 2

gallon jars... anyhow I'll find something. thanks.

michael.

MPaltza@... wrote:

>HI ,

>I found my one gallon and two gallon jars at Walmart.

>They have nice wide mouths and are easy to manage.

>Hope this helps, Myrna

>

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ne B.

I had a regular Jazzy scooter, & now have a standard power w/c to go long distances with (eg. mall, trick-or-treating, festivals, etc.)

If you have a van, you can get ramps that fold up like a suitcase, made of aluminum. But I must cautio you, the ramp is still heavy for a flatbacker to handle. I don't know how you would manage to get either device in & out of your vehicle without assistance.

I did have another, and possibly less expensive idea though. Y'all might laugh at me, but I was thinking about one of those electric scooters - the type that run on something like a lawn mower battery. It's the kind you just stand up on & ride like a regular scooter. They generally run around $200 new & don't appear to weigh anywhere near as much as what I've got. If you don't have to carry a lot of stuff, this might be an option for you. I know that a regular electric w/c or Jazzy can cost a minimum of $2,000 used.

I hope you find something to make your life easier. SOON

Blessings,

Carla Kay

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