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The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was anything we could do to help out Jen with medical bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm like, "Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!

As most of you know, Jen is in one of those predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too much to get help from the state and federal systems in place.

I was in a similar situation myself; around 10 years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no insurance and made too much to get help from the state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..

If you would like to help Jen, you can donate money to her PayPal account, which is her email address:

_Dahlstromhotmail

Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for $25!

Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!

Namaste,

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Thank you VERY VERY MUCH! Jen kris alcs <chromechairs@...> wrote: yay!:) Gerard & Leonie Westenberg <westenbigpond> wrote: What a reat

idea - I'll try to gt to Paypal this week..Anny in AustraliaMy artwork available on cute items @http://www.cafepress.com/webgrl Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center.

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Hey Jen!

I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - can

I mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!

Thanks!

Donna

--- Pink Pussycat

<pinkpussycat@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone!

>

> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was

> anything we could do to help out Jen with medical

> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm

> like, " Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF

> COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING

> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!

>

> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those

> predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her

> insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford

> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too

> much to get help from the state and federal systems

> in place.

>

> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10

> years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no

> insurance and made too much to get help from the

> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of

> pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage

> only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to

> get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..

>

> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate

> money to her PayPal account, which is her email

> address:

>

> _Dahlstrom@...

>

> Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for

> $25!

>

> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!

>

> Namaste,

>

>

>

>

>

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I meant to post this the other day, but also go through the hospitals Financial Aid department. Many times they'll wipe it all out or reduce it significantly.I have a coworker who did this twice. He had back surgery a few years ago and his entire bill was wiped out. Our employer pays our insurance but you have to pay for family. The same coworker can't afford to do the family so his wife has her own and then the kids have CHIP. He had a baby last September and they also wiped out all the debt for all the costs. I can't recall the amounts, but I know both were a significant amount. I'm not sure what they make, his wife works very PT at Curves. A lot of folks don't realize that this may be available, also he had a house both times and was still approved for it. Even as a worse case scenario, *most* hospitals will work with you even if you're only paying $25 a month. They may still turn it over to collections once they no longer can carry it on their books, but many are quite flexible and willing to work with people.

On 5/15/07, Donna M-P <donna112520@...> wrote:

Hey Jen!I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - canI mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!Thanks!Donna--- Pink Pussycat<

pinkpussycat@...> wrote:> Hello Everyone!>> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was> anything we could do to help out Jen with medical> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm

> like, " Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF> COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!>> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those

> predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her> insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too> much to get help from the state and federal systems

> in place.>> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10> years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no> insurance and made too much to get help from the> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of

> pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage> only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to> get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..>> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate

> money to her PayPal account, which is her email> address:>> _Dahlstrom@...>> Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for

> $25!>> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!>> Namaste,> >>>>____________________________________________________________________________________

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The difference is that your co-worker is married and has children. I'm single and I don't have any children, am not disabled and not over 65 yrs of age. In Michigan, the only program that I qualify for is frozen by the Governor and probably will stay that way indefinately. The estimated cost of my surgery is $12,570 and the hospital wants half up front. The doctor's bill, anesthesialogist and any blood transfusions is not included in this estimate. And if I need to have stents placed in my uteters that would also be a separate bill along with the uralogist's charge. The above doesn't cover the two ultrasounds and other tests that I've had done. I am trying to meet with a Social worker from the hospital but I doubt that there will

be any kind of aid available to me, apparently single women without children do not qualify for aid. They do have a loan through the hospital that I could get but I would have to pay 9.5% interest. I'm trying everything possible to find help but it doesn't look good so far. Jen *~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmie@...> wrote: I meant to post this the other day, but also go through the hospitals Financial Aid department. Many times they'll wipe it all out or reduce it significantly.I have a coworker who did this twice. He had back surgery a few years ago and his entire bill was wiped out. Our employer pays our insurance but you have to pay for family. The same coworker can't afford to do the family so his wife has her own and then the kids have CHIP. He had a baby last September and they also wiped out all the debt for all the costs. I can't recall the amounts, but I know both were a significant amount. I'm not sure what they make, his wife works very PT at Curves. A lot of folks don't realize that this may be available, also he had a house both times and was still approved for it. Even

as a worse case scenario, *most* hospitals will work with you even if you're only paying $25 a month. They may still turn it over to collections once they no longer can carry it on their books, but many are quite flexible and willing to work with people. On 5/15/07, Donna M-P <donna112520 > wrote: Hey Jen!I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - canI mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!Thanks!Donna--- Pink Pussycat< pinkpussycatpinkpussycatscorner> wrote:> Hello Everyone!>> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was> anything we could do to help out Jen with

medical> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm > like, "Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF> COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!>> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those > predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her> insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too> much to get help from the state and federal systems > in place.>> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10> years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no> insurance and made too much to get help from the> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of > pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage> only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to> get

a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..>> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate > money to her PayPal account, which is her email> address:>> _Dahlstromhotmail>> Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for > $25!>> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!>> Namaste,> >>>>____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.http://sims./

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I'm really surprised to hear about the interest rate. I didn't think they were allowed to charge interest. I know I had very significant bills leftover after my insurance picked up its portion from several hospitalizations for my kids and myself. We were on a payment plan for YEARS but finally got it almost all paid off in 2006. Should have the last payments done this summer. We had to pay 10% of the initial bill as our monthly payment but there was no interest added on to the principal. Check again and see if there is an interest free payment plan option. Good luck!

Re: helping Jen with her upcoming medical bills

The difference is that your co-worker is married and has children. I'm single and I don't have any children, am not disabled and not over 65 yrs of age. In Michigan, the only program that I qualify for is frozen by the Governor and probably will stay that way indefinately.

The estimated cost of my surgery is $12,570 and the hospital wants half up front. The doctor's bill, anesthesialogist and any blood transfusions is not included in this estimate. And if I need to have stents placed in my uteters that would also be a separate bill along with the uralogist's charge. The above doesn't cover the two ultrasounds and other tests that I've had done.

I am trying to meet with a Social worker from the hospital but I doubt that there will be any kind of aid available to me, apparently single women without children do not qualify for aid. They do have a loan through the hospital that I could get but I would have to pay 9.5% interest.

I'm trying everything possible to find help but it doesn't look good so far.

Jen

*~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmiegmail> wrote:

I meant to post this the other day, but also go through the hospitals Financial Aid department. Many times they'll wipe it all out or reduce it significantly.I have a coworker who did this twice. He had back surgery a few years ago and his entire bill was wiped out. Our employer pays our insurance but you have to pay for family. The same coworker can't afford to do the family so his wife has her own and then the kids have CHIP. He had a baby last September and they also wiped out all the debt for all the costs. I can't recall the amounts, but I know both were a significant amount. I'm not sure what they make, his wife works very PT at Curves. A lot of folks don't realize that this may be available, also he had a house both times and was still approved for it. Even as a worse case scenario, *most* hospitals will work with you even if you're only paying $25 a month. They may still turn it over to collections once they no longer can carry it on their books, but many are quite flexible and willing to work with people.

On 5/15/07, Donna M-P <donna112520 > wrote: Hey Jen!I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - canI mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!Thanks!Donna--- Pink Pussycat< pinkpussycatpinkpussycatscorner> wrote:> Hello Everyone!>> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was> anything we could do to help out Jen with medical> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm > like, "Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF> COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!>> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those > predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her> insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too> much to get help from the state and federal systems > in place.>> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10> years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no> insurance and made too much to get help from the> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of > pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage> only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to> get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..>> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate > money to her PayPal account, which is her email> address:>> _Dahlstromhotmail>> Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for > $25!>> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!>> Namaste,> >>>>____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.http://sims./

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Hi Gymmie, I don't want to sound like I'm mad at you because I'm not, I'm just very frustrated! I only made $13,000-something last year but I was denied Medicaid because I'm not disabled, single-without children and not over 65! The aid available depends on the state. I live in Michigan, we have the worst economy of any state in the nation and they've been cutting services left and right, seems like. Big companies like Comerica Bank our moving their headquarters elsewhere....it just keeps getting worse! There aren't many jobs available so even if I looked for a full-time job in another industry (I don't want to do that) I may not be able to find anything. I can't seem to get in touch with the right people at the hospital. I can't even contact a social worker or a patient advocate! SCREAMING INTO PILLOW, Jen *~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmie@...> wrote: I know some who've done the same and they're single and didn't have children. Theirs wasn't wiped out completely but a good chunk forgiven. That sucks :(. That's truly a shame :(. I truly don't understand the "health care" in this country. On 5/16/07, from Michigan <volleyjen0416 > wrote: The difference is that your co-worker is married and has children. I'm single and I don't have any children, am not

disabled and not over 65 yrs of age. In Michigan, the only program that I qualify for is frozen by the Governor and probably will stay that way indefinately. The estimated cost of my surgery is $12,570 and the hospital wants half up front. The doctor's bill, anesthesialogist and any blood transfusions is not included in this estimate. And if I need to have stents placed in my uteters that would also be a separate bill along with the uralogist's charge. The above doesn't cover the two ultrasounds and other tests that I've had done. I am trying to meet with a Social worker from the hospital but I doubt that there will be any kind of aid available to me, apparently single women without children do not qualify for aid. They do have a loan through the hospital

that I could get but I would have to pay 9.5% interest. I'm trying everything possible to find help but it doesn't look good so far. Jen *~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmiegmail> wrote: I meant to post this the other day, but also go through the hospitals Financial Aid department. Many times they'll wipe it all out or reduce it significantly.I have a coworker who did this twice. He had

back surgery a few years ago and his entire bill was wiped out. Our employer pays our insurance but you have to pay for family. The same coworker can't afford to do the family so his wife has her own and then the kids have CHIP. He had a baby last September and they also wiped out all the debt for all the costs. I can't recall the amounts, but I know both were a significant amount. I'm not sure what they make, his wife works very PT at Curves. A lot of folks don't realize that this may be available, also he had a house both times and was still approved for it. Even as a worse case scenario, *most* hospitals will work with you even if you're only paying $25 a month. They may still turn it over to collections once they no longer can carry it on their books, but many are quite flexible and willing to work with people. On 5/15/07, Donna M-P <donna112520 > wrote: Hey Jen!I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - canI mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!Thanks!Donna--- Pink Pussycat< pinkpussycatpinkpussycatscorner> wrote:> Hello Everyone!>> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was> anything we could do to help out Jen with medical> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm > like, "Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF > COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!>> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those > predicaments where her employer

doesn't offer her > insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too> much to get help from the state and federal systems > in place.>> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10 > years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no> insurance and made too much to get help from the> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of > pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage > only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to> get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..>> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate > money to her PayPal account, which is her email > address:>> _Dahlstromhotmail>> Every bit helps,

no matter how small. I'm in for > $25!>> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!>> Namaste,> >>>>____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.http://sims./

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I'm still looking into getting a payment plan. I don't have any collateral to speak of...my mom has her 2002 but that's all we have..... I guess my mom and I will have to come up with the money somehow. Jen *~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmie@...> wrote: It sounds like she's getting an actual loan not doing a payment plan. The loan they can charge interest on it. I know dentists often use Care Credit which is a CC that is for a specific purpose (i.e. gym membership, dental work, pet veterniary bills, etc.) and the interest rate on those can be high. But if you have really good credit *sometimes* they may have one for a lower interest rate. But yes an actual payment plan would have no interest. On 5/16/07, nancydewolfsbcglobal (DOT) net <nancydewolfsbcglobal (DOT) net > wrote: I'm really surprised to hear about the interest

rate. I didn't think they were allowed to charge interest. I know I had very significant bills leftover after my insurance picked up its portion from several hospitalizations for my kids and myself. We were on a payment plan for YEARS but finally got it almost all paid off in 2006. Should have the last payments done this summer. We had to pay 10% of the initial bill as our monthly payment but there was no interest added on to the principal. Check again and see if there is an interest free payment plan option. Good luck! Re: helping Jen with her upcoming medical bills The difference is that your co-worker is married and has children. I'm single and I don't have any children, am not disabled and not over 65 yrs of age. In Michigan, the only program that I qualify for is frozen by the Governor and probably will stay that way indefinately. The estimated cost of my surgery is $12,570 and the hospital

wants half up front. The doctor's bill, anesthesialogist and any blood transfusions is not included in this estimate. And if I need to have stents placed in my uteters that would also be a separate bill along with the uralogist's charge. The above doesn't cover the two ultrasounds and other tests that I've had done. I am trying to meet with a Social worker from the hospital but I doubt that there will be any kind of aid available to me, apparently single women without children do not qualify for aid. They do have a loan through the hospital that I could get but I would have to pay 9.5% interest. I'm trying everything possible to find help but it doesn't look good so far. Jen *~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmiegmail> wrote: I meant to post this the other day, but also go through the hospitals Financial Aid department. Many times they'll wipe it all out or reduce it significantly.I have a coworker who did this twice. He had back surgery a few years ago and his entire bill was wiped out. Our employer pays our insurance but you have to pay for family. The same coworker can't afford to do the family so his wife has her own and then the kids have CHIP. He had a baby last September and they also wiped out all the debt for all the costs. I can't recall the

amounts, but I know both were a significant amount. I'm not sure what they make, his wife works very PT at Curves. A lot of folks don't realize that this may be available, also he had a house both times and was still approved for it. Even as a worse case scenario, *most* hospitals will work with you even if you're only paying $25 a month. They may still turn it over to collections once they no longer can carry it on their books, but many are quite flexible and willing to work with people. On 5/15/07, Donna M-P <donna112520 > wrote: Hey Jen!I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - canI mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!Thanks!Donna--- Pink Pussycat< pinkpussycatpinkpussycatscorner> wrote:> Hello Everyone!>> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was> anything we could do to help out Jen with medical> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm > like, "Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF > COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!>> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those > predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her > insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too> much to get help from the state and federal systems > in place.>> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10 > years ago I made $16,400 a year

as a temp and had no> insurance and made too much to get help from the> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of > pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage > only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to> get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..>> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate > money to her PayPal account, which is her email > address:>> _Dahlstromhotmail>> Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for > $25!>> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!>> Namaste,>

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Jen, I was reading one of my newsletters...I was recently in the no health insurance night mare...I was turned down by a few insurers due to have glaucoma and no thyroid...nothing major...just chronic...I'm only 35 and I make a really nice wage for being a women...but...whatever...anyway, I was reading and you should check out this site http://www.coverageforall.org/finder/index.php it's federally funded insurance...not sure if you qualify...but he anythings worth a shot. I had to go through a state funded insurer...insurance is insurance...and something this better than nothing...Give it a look and hopefully it will help you.

Celeste

On 5/16/07, from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...> wrote:

Hi Gymmie, I don't want to sound like I'm mad at you because I'm not, I'm just very frustrated! I only made $13,000-something last year but I was denied Medicaid because I'm not disabled, single-without children and not over 65!

The aid available depends on the state. I live in Michigan, we have the worst economy of any state in the nation and they've been cutting services left and right, seems like. Big companies like Comerica Bank our moving their headquarters elsewhere....it just keeps getting worse!

There aren't many jobs available so even if I looked for a full-time job in another industry (I don't want to do that) I may not be able to find anything.

I can't seem to get in touch with the right people at the hospital. I can't even contact a social worker or a patient advocate!

SCREAMING INTO PILLOW,

Jen

*~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmiegmail> wrote:

I know some who've done the same and they're single and didn't have children. Theirs wasn't wiped out completely but a good chunk forgiven.

That sucks :(. That's truly a shame :(. I truly don't understand the " health care " in this country.

On 5/16/07, from Michigan <volleyjen0416@...

> wrote:

The difference is that your co-worker is married and has children. I'm single and I don't have any children, am not disabled and not over 65 yrs of age. In Michigan, the only program that I qualify for is frozen by the Governor and probably will stay that way indefinately.

The estimated cost of my surgery is $12,570 and the hospital wants half up front. The doctor's bill, anesthesialogist and any blood transfusions is not included in this estimate. And if I need to have stents placed in my uteters that would also be a separate bill along with the uralogist's charge. The above doesn't cover the two ultrasounds and other tests that I've had done.

I am trying to meet with a Social worker from the hospital but I doubt that there will be any kind of aid available to me, apparently single women without children do not qualify for aid. They do have a loan through the hospital that I could get but I would have to pay 9.5% interest.

I'm trying everything possible to find help but it doesn't look good so far.

Jen

*~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmie@...> wrote:

I meant to post this the other day, but also go through the hospitals Financial Aid department. Many times they'll wipe it all out or reduce it significantly.I have a coworker who did this twice. He had back surgery a few years ago and his entire bill was wiped out. Our employer pays our insurance but you have to pay for family. The same coworker can't afford to do the family so his wife has her own and then the kids have CHIP. He had a baby last September and they also wiped out all the debt for all the costs. I can't recall the amounts, but I know both were a significant amount. I'm not sure what they make, his wife works very PT at Curves. A lot of folks don't realize that this may be available, also he had a house both times and was still approved for it. Even as a worse case scenario, *most* hospitals will work with you even if you're only paying $25 a month. They may still turn it over to collections once they no longer can carry it on their books, but many are quite flexible and willing to work with people.

On 5/15/07, Donna M-P <donna112520@... > wrote: Hey Jen!I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - canI mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!Thanks!

Donna--- Pink Pussycat< pinkpussycat@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone!>> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was> anything we could do to help out Jen with medical> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm > like, " Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF > COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!>> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those > predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her > insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too> much to get help from the state and federal systems > in place.>> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10 > years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no> insurance and made too much to get help from the> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of > pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage > only. I would up going to the homeless shelter to> get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..>> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate > money to her PayPal account, which is her email > address:>> _Dahlstrom@...>> Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for > $25!>> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!>> Namaste,> >>>>____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.http://sims./

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Hi Celeste, I looked it over but it doesn't say whether or not it will pay for my upcoming surgery and that is what I need help with. I don't make very much money and yet I don't qualify for Medicaid or other assistance programs here in Michigan. I am still looking for help but so far I've only had bad luck, Jen Celeste <celesteis@...> wrote: Jen, I was reading one of my newsletters...I was recently in the no health insurance night mare...I was turned down by a few insurers due to have glaucoma and no thyroid...nothing major...just chronic...I'm only 35 and I make a really nice wage for being a women...but...whatever...anyway, I was reading and you should check out this site http://www.coverageforall.org/finder/index.php it's federally funded insurance...not sure if you qualify...but he anythings worth a shot. I had to go through a state funded insurer...insurance is insurance...and something this better than nothing...Give it a look and hopefully it will help you. Celeste On 5/16/07, from Michigan <volleyjen0416 > wrote: Hi Gymmie, I don't want to sound like I'm mad at you because I'm not, I'm just very frustrated! I only made $13,000-something last year but I was denied Medicaid because I'm not disabled, single-without children and not over 65! The aid available depends on the state. I live in Michigan, we have the worst economy of any state in the nation and they've been cutting services left and right, seems like. Big companies like Comerica Bank our moving their headquarters

elsewhere....it just keeps getting worse! There aren't many jobs available so even if I looked for a full-time job in another industry (I don't want to do that) I may not be able to find anything. I can't seem to get in touch with the right people at the hospital. I can't even contact a social worker or a patient advocate! SCREAMING INTO PILLOW, Jen *~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmiegmail> wrote: I know some who've done the same and they're single and didn't have children. Theirs wasn't wiped out completely but a good chunk forgiven. That sucks :(. That's truly a shame :(. I truly don't understand the "health care" in this country. On

5/16/07, from Michigan <volleyjen0416 > wrote: The difference is that your co-worker is married and has children. I'm single and I don't have any children, am not disabled and not over 65 yrs of age. In Michigan, the only program that I qualify for is frozen by the Governor and probably will stay that way indefinately. The estimated cost of my surgery is $12,570 and the hospital wants half up front. The doctor's bill, anesthesialogist and any blood transfusions is not included in this estimate. And if I need to have stents placed in my uteters that would also be a separate bill along with the uralogist's charge. The above

doesn't cover the two ultrasounds and other tests that I've had done. I am trying to meet with a Social worker from the hospital but I doubt that there will be any kind of aid available to me, apparently single women without children do not qualify for aid. They do have a loan through the hospital that I could get but I would have to pay 9.5% interest. I'm trying everything possible to find help but it doesn't look good so far. Jen *~*Gymmie*~* <taebogymmiegmail> wrote: I meant to post this the other day, but also go through the hospitals Financial Aid department. Many times they'll wipe it all out or reduce it significantly.I have a coworker who did this twice. He had back surgery a few years ago and his entire bill was wiped out. Our employer pays our insurance but you have to pay for family. The same coworker can't afford to do the family so his wife has her own and then the kids have CHIP. He had a baby last September and they also wiped out all the debt for all the costs. I can't recall the amounts, but I know both were a significant amount. I'm not sure what they make, his wife works very PT at Curves. A lot of folks don't realize that this may be available, also he had a house both times and was still approved for it. Even as a worse case

scenario, *most* hospitals will work with you even if you're only paying $25 a month. They may still turn it over to collections once they no longer can carry it on their books, but many are quite flexible and willing to work with people. On 5/15/07, Donna M-P <donna112520 > wrote: Hey Jen!I'm not pay pal enabled, but I want to help out - canI mail you a check? Just e-mail me off list!Thanks!Donna--- Pink Pussycat< pinkpussycatpinkpussycatscorner> wrote:> Hello Everyone!>> The other day, Kris emailed me asking if there was> anything we could do to help out

Jen with medical> bills associated with her upcoming surgery. I'm > like, "Why on earth didn't I think of that??? OF > COURSE I WOULD BE UP FOR HELPING ORGANIZE SOMETHING> TO HELP JEN! Kris, you are a godsend!!>> As most of you know, Jen is in one of those > predicaments where her employer doesn't offer her > insurance. She doesn't earn enough to afford> insurance on her own, yet she makes just a hair too> much to get help from the state and federal systems > in place.>> I was in a similar situation myself; around 10 > years ago I made $16,400 a year as a temp and had no> insurance and made too much to get help from the> state. I had to pay quite a bit each month out of > pocket on my own just to get catastrophic coverage > only. I would up going to the homeless shelter

to> get a flu, pnemonia and tetanus shot..>> If you would like to help Jen, you can donate > money to her PayPal account, which is her email > address:>> _Dahlstromhotmail>> Every bit helps, no matter how small. I'm in for > $25!>> Jen, we love you and wish you the best of health!>> Namaste,> >>>>____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.http://sims./

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Oh Jen-- I can empathize with how frustrating and frightening this whole situation must be. It's awful that there's no more help for you than what you've been offered. I'm still praying.Too, I wanted to let you know that I'll be giving something too, as soon as I get my paycheck and can put it into my account. I just didn't want you to think I'd forgotten about you.

I only wish I could do more...((Hugs))Tess

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Thank you Tess! My mom and I are trying to scrape together about $4,000 more dollars. If we can put down $10,000 then the hospital will waive the remaining balance on the bill which is $2,517. Hopefully I won't be in the hospital longer than the estimated two days because if I am then we will have to put more down which I doubt we will be able to. Any little bit does help though as I have other medical bills and monthly bills I will need paid while I'm not working. Luv ya, Jen Lethe Loupe <lethe.loupe@...> wrote: Oh Jen-- I can empathize with how frustrating and frightening this whole situation must be. It's awful that there's no more help for you than what you've been offered. I'm still praying.Too, I wanted to let you know that I'll be giving something too, as soon as I get my paycheck and can put it into my account. I just didn't want you to think I'd forgotten about you. I only wish I could do more...((Hugs))Tess

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