Re: aggression/rage...P.S. - again

[Guest guest]

I got one of those " can't display the page " type messages when I sent

a post a second ago, so hope this doesn't show twice!

What I wanted to also mention is that my other 2 non-OCD sons have

tempers and display physical and verbal anger (just the verbal

towards me tho). Quick tempers, but I have to admit they got the

quick temper from me. But I just don't believe it's the same type

anger as 's.

> > I still haven't figured out if this is ocd or not, but noticed

> many

> > other posts about aggressive anger in kids. My 9 yr old, Theresa,

> who

> > is homeschooling, seems to have outbursts triggered by her

> obsessive

> > interests (whereas other seem to post about their kid's obsessive

> > fears) she wants to get a bird, a cat, or another dog (all

animals

> > she has researched very thoroughly on her own: breeds, training,

> > food, etc) she even has a feather collection which can trigger a

> > meltdown if one of the feathers blows out of place. She had a

> really

> > bad long spell of irritability a month ago when a neighbor's dog

> that

> > she had " tamed " (it was very timid) and made friends with, was

> given

> > away. We have our own dog, and when she is in a " spell " she'll

> accuse

> > me of hating him. But the dog is also therapeutic for her, b/c

when

> > she pets him or plays with him it calms her. So when the subject

of

> > another pet is raised (usually by her) and we don't give a

concrete

> > answer, it often ends in her screaming, sometimes flailing and

> > slamming her door. She calls the screaming a " vent " . Does this

> sound

> > like OCD? The other area that triggers her is needing to have the

> day

> > start " right " or the school activity we are undertaking to

be " just

> > right " She does not have obsessions and compulsions, but

obsessive

> > and thwarted desires or interests and the need to " vent " I guess.

> In

> > ocd there seems to be more of a recognition of the o's and c's

> being

> > irrational or unwanted, maybe that is just with adults, though.

> > Theresa doesn't really see her wishes or behaviors as irrational

> b/c

> > she just loves animals and she desires activities to be " nice. "

She

> > is remorseful about the outbursts, though.

> >

> > My husband gets very upset at her screaming i.e. seeming lack of

> > control and my supposed lack of disciplining her, but I feel it

is

> a

> > neurological impulsive thing that will require patience and time

> and

> > training plus greater maturity to overcome. (I think my husband,

> too,

> > has a very quirky bad temper-but he doesn't often acknowledge

it).

> >

> > I have been reading about " rage attacks " and feel this is

similar,

> > but rage attacks are not necessarily associated with ocd (more

with

> > bi-polar, and also with something I'm just finding out more about-

> > aspergers-which fits Theresa except that she doesn't fit with the

> > social awkwardness/inability description-just the social anxiety,

> > shyness, feeling of being scrutinized). My older daughter,

> (13)

> > had several tantrums triggered by anxiety in which she trashed

her

> > room or even banged her head on the wall, but it was short-lived,

> > only at the seeming onset of her symptoms. She has not ever done

it

> > anymore for over a year, and she seemed to be triggered just by

the

> > overwhelming expectations upon her (both external and internal)

> with

> > starting school (previously homeschooled).

> >

> > My 9 yr old, Theresa, seems more " quirky " in her obsessive

> interests

> > and her " venting " type outbursts, characterized mainly by this

> > unnerving screaming. Just wondering if this all sounds familiar

to

> > anyone and how to sort it out.

> > Grace

[Guest guest]

Chris:

Just a thought -- could the boys be oppositional defiant, it's also common

with OCD. Or is it more anger than defiance?

Tamra

Re: aggression/rage...P.S. - again

> I got one of those " can't display the page " type messages when I sent

> a post a second ago, so hope this doesn't show twice!

>

> What I wanted to also mention is that my other 2 non-OCD sons have

> tempers and display physical and verbal anger (just the verbal

> towards me tho). Quick tempers, but I have to admit they got the

> quick temper from me. But I just don't believe it's the same type

> anger as 's.

>

>

>

>

>

> > > I still haven't figured out if this is ocd or not, but noticed

> > many

> > > other posts about aggressive anger in kids. My 9 yr old, Theresa,

> > who

> > > is homeschooling, seems to have outbursts triggered by her

> > obsessive

> > > interests (whereas other seem to post about their kid's obsessive

> > > fears) she wants to get a bird, a cat, or another dog (all

> animals

> > > she has researched very thoroughly on her own: breeds, training,

> > > food, etc) she even has a feather collection which can trigger a

> > > meltdown if one of the feathers blows out of place. She had a

> > really

> > > bad long spell of irritability a month ago when a neighbor's dog

> > that

> > > she had " tamed " (it was very timid) and made friends with, was

> > given

> > > away. We have our own dog, and when she is in a " spell " she'll

> > accuse

> > > me of hating him. But the dog is also therapeutic for her, b/c

> when

> > > she pets him or plays with him it calms her. So when the subject

> of

> > > another pet is raised (usually by her) and we don't give a

> concrete

> > > answer, it often ends in her screaming, sometimes flailing and

> > > slamming her door. She calls the screaming a " vent " . Does this

> > sound

> > > like OCD? The other area that triggers her is needing to have the

> > day

> > > start " right " or the school activity we are undertaking to

> be " just

> > > right " She does not have obsessions and compulsions, but

> obsessive

> > > and thwarted desires or interests and the need to " vent " I guess.

> > In

> > > ocd there seems to be more of a recognition of the o's and c's

> > being

> > > irrational or unwanted, maybe that is just with adults, though.

> > > Theresa doesn't really see her wishes or behaviors as irrational

> > b/c

> > > she just loves animals and she desires activities to be " nice. "

> She

> > > is remorseful about the outbursts, though.

> > >

> > > My husband gets very upset at her screaming i.e. seeming lack of

> > > control and my supposed lack of disciplining her, but I feel it

> is

> > a

> > > neurological impulsive thing that will require patience and time

> > and

> > > training plus greater maturity to overcome. (I think my husband,

> > too,

> > > has a very quirky bad temper-but he doesn't often acknowledge

> it).

> > >

> > > I have been reading about " rage attacks " and feel this is

> similar,

> > > but rage attacks are not necessarily associated with ocd (more

> with

> > > bi-polar, and also with something I'm just finding out more about-

>

> > > aspergers-which fits Theresa except that she doesn't fit with the

> > > social awkwardness/inability description-just the social anxiety,

> > > shyness, feeling of being scrutinized). My older daughter,

> > (13)

> > > had several tantrums triggered by anxiety in which she trashed

> her

> > > room or even banged her head on the wall, but it was short-lived,

> > > only at the seeming onset of her symptoms. She has not ever done

> it

> > > anymore for over a year, and she seemed to be triggered just by

> the

> > > overwhelming expectations upon her (both external and internal)

> > with

> > > starting school (previously homeschooled).

> > >

> > > My 9 yr old, Theresa, seems more " quirky " in her obsessive

> > interests

> > > and her " venting " type outbursts, characterized mainly by this

> > > unnerving screaming. Just wondering if this all sounds familiar

> to

> > > anyone and how to sort it out.

> > > Grace

>

>

>

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