Vertical Shin Squats on Heels?

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> Mims wrote

>

> > On the vertical shins statement, I believe it is best

> > to try and keep them vertical, even though it is

> > really impossible. This is a coaching point that

> > keeps the athlete back on their heels.

>

> Casler writes:

>

> Yes, as Mel pointed out, it is totally impossible to perform a

regular squat with vertical

> shins. Can you explain why you feel there is some advantage to

keeping the

> athlete " back on their heels " ?

>

> I regularly hear recommendations to keep the knee over the ankle

(which is

> impossible) and squat on the heels and for the life of me cannot

understand

> where this comes from.

>

> It would seem that for balance, stability and efficient

biomechanics, one

> would maintain balanced weight distribution on the foot based on

combined

> joint angles and COG.

>

> Would you mind explaining what you coach that would benefit from

this

> advice. What specifically might this produce as far as results or

> advantages?

>

> Regards,

>

> A. Casler

>

> TRI-VECTOR 3-D Force Systems

> Century City, CA

> http://summitfitness.websitegalaxy.com/index.html

writes:

So then, if one is careful to keep the " line of action " over the

heels, nothing is to be considered wrong with having the knees go

over the feet? I understand of course that this is natural when

doing a full squat, but what is the exact argument I could use to

show that there's also nothing wrong with the knees going over the

feet even in lesser deep squats say, down to parallel? (I got into an

argument over that the other day with a " personal trainer " at the

gym...).

Also, I know there is no arbitrary limit set on that but how much

bending at the waist or how much " knees over the feet " could be

considered too much (if there is such a thing...)? I've never had

back or knee problems in training with weights and playing

competitive basketball in over 15 years, and although this is no

proof that what I'm doing is OK, I don't really see any need to

worry. Come to think of it, doesn't the knee go over the foot in

many everyday sporting movements such as running and jumping...

Lépine

Vancouver BC