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Does anyone know of a formula to convert a 10 yard sprint time into a

40 yard sprint time? I train some young HS football players and since

we have been able to go outside and actually run a 40 because of the

weather, they were wondering if something like this were possible and

how accurate it is.

Thank you for the help.

Grant Gardis

USA

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There are definite relationships between 10 & 40 yds, however you may

want to expand your test to include a pro-agility time. Because

technical aspects of the start influence the time of the 10yd run, it is

possible to get a inaccurate estimate of the 40. However if you

perform the pro-agility you can narrow the deviation tremendously as

well as have a better understanding of many other traits.

In faith,

Coach Davies

Huntington Beach, CA

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Grant Gardis<ggardis@h...> wrote:

> Does anyone know of a formula to convert a 10 yard sprint time into a

> 40 yard sprint time? I train some young HS football players and since

> we have been able to go outside and actually run a 40 because of the

> weather, they were wondering if something like this were possible and

> how accurate it is.

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Coach Davies suggested that the inclusion of a pro-agility test would

be of benefit. Forgive me for my ignorance but what is it? Would someone

please care to describe this test.

The topic of agility and its testing tends to come up frequently and

generally gets no where. The main concern seems to be the validity of the

test. The surface were the testing is performed and the footwear being worn

have been found to be significant factors.

At present, testing agility is not included, but, I'm in the process of

developing a protocol to assess (more towards qualitative) movement

performance including agility by filming during competitive matches and

training. I would be very interested to hear views on this subject if anyone

would care to comment.

many thanks

Melbourne

Australia

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-The short shuttle is set up in 5 yard increments. Lets take a

football field for a visual. Start at the five yard line facing the

either sideline. One hand down on the line, turn(right) and sprint

five yards touch the line with the hand that is closest to the line

(do not turn the body)touch with the right hand and foot. plant and

run back through the original line to the goal line still facing the

same direction touch with the other hand(left) and plant the foot run

back through the original starting line. if you chose to go right,

touch first with your right hand, and vise versa. Incredible test

for change of direction and explosive movements in and out of cuts.

There has been some corelation with this test and the forty yard dash.

Thanks

Dan Fichter

Rochester NY

-- In Supertraining@y..., " MORGAN WILLIAMS " <morg_williams@h...>

wrote:

> Coach Davies suggested that the inclusion of a pro-agility

test would

> be of benefit. Forgive me for my ignorance but what is it? Would

someone

> please care to describe this test.

>

> The topic of agility and its testing tends to come up frequently

and

> generally gets no where. The main concern seems to be the validity

of the

> test. The surface were the testing is performed and the footwear

being worn

> have been found to be significant factors.

>

> At present, testing agility is not included, but, I'm in the

process of

> developing a protocol to assess (more towards qualitative) movement

> performance including agility by filming during competitive matches

and

> training. I would be very interested to hear views on this subject

if anyone

> would care to comment.

>

> many thanks

>

>

> Melbourne

> Australia

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger:

http://messenger.msn.com

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The pro agility test is the 5-10-5 run. You start in the middle with a 5yd

line marked to the right, and a 5yd line to the left. You can start in either

a 3pt or 2pt stance. Turn to the right and touch the 5yd line with your right

hand. Turn left and sprint 10 yds touching the left line with your left hand.

Finish by turning to your right and sprinting through the starting line.

Arthur and 's book " Complete Conditioning for Football " , describes this

and many other tests. It also has tables that provide percentile rankings by

position, of the 10 & 40 yd dash, as well as the pro agility, and vertical

jump.

This I find useful, as I to do not have the room to run 40's. This book

is available through Human Kinetics Web site. They do not explain how these

values were formulated (some I find curious, especially when compared with

the NFL combine numbers). They also do not specify whether the timing is

electronic or hand timed. However I do not know of any other such tables or

standards out there. If anyone does I would be interested.

Alder

Naperville, IL

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