Re: This Free Day Thing

[Guest guest]

You still get a metabolic and psychological boost from free day if you

let your calories run a few hundred higher than normal rather than

thousands.

If you want to rein in the numbers a little bit, you could choose to

let those calories come from healthy carbs you might otherwise deny

yourself. Maybe you have a few things like cereal and milk, a peanut

butter and jelly sandwich, light microwave popcorn, and a couple of

Tootsie Rolls rather than going straight for the chili cheese fries,

deep dish peperoni pizza, and 7-layer chocolate cake. :-)

Bring your calories up a little (or a lot) in whatever way feels best

for you and your situation. Some people would rather have a greater

volume of healthy carbs. Some people want small portions of the really

rich stuff they're craving. And some people eat everything their heart

desires, and in fairly crazy quantities. Base it on your progress and

how you're feeling from week to week. Some weeks you may feel like you

need to be fairly cautious and some weeks you may feel like you need

to cut loose. It being free day and all, you can do whatever you want.

On 1/29/06, Furner <claire_furner@...> wrote:

> Okay ladies

>

> Just mulling over this free day thing. I understand the issue about having

an overall calorie deficit for the week and how if you pig out completely all

day long on your free day you could undo any good work for the week.

>

> At the same time though I thought the free day served a couple of purposes -

one to allow you to indulge in anything you have been craving during the week

(and therefore make you feel less deprived and more likely to stick to the plan

long term) and two, to give your metabolism a little kick up the backside since

if you continuously restrict calories your body thinks it needs to conserve

energy.

>

> So....if you don't have a free day, or you restrict what you eat/count

calories on a free day does that mean you are not getting a benefit from it?

>

> Just wondering!

>

>

> (just completed C1W4 and not seeing any difference but feeling a bit firmer

and toned - lost an inch on my hips - planning on managing my portion sizes a

bit more carefully over the next few weeks, and focusing on cutting out those

extra nibbles - if I'm honest, a few handfuls of my daughters cheerios,

raisins, crackers etc do still occasionally find their way to my mouth lol!)

[Guest guest]

I totally honor the religious experience of the free day. I work

very hard six days a week following BFL to a " T " (except my over-

indulgence of Romaine lettuce *snort*)I eat whatever I want on my

free day. Some weeks it's clean like the other six days and other

days it is chocolate cake and pepperoni pizza. I need it both

psychologically and physically. Works for me.

dj

>

> Okay ladies

>

> Just mulling over this free day thing. I understand the issue

about having an overall calorie deficit for the week and how if you

pig out completely all day long on your free day you could undo any

good work for the week.

>

> At the same time though I thought the free day served a couple

of purposes - one to allow you to indulge in anything you have

been craving during the week (and therefore make you feel less

deprived and more likely to stick to the plan long term) and two,

to give your metabolism a little kick up the backside since if you

continuously restrict calories your body thinks it needs to

conserve energy.

>

> So....if you don't have a free day, or you restrict what you

eat/count calories on a free day does that mean you are not getting

a benefit from it?

>

> Just wondering!

>

>

> (just completed C1W4 and not seeing any difference but feeling a

bit firmer and toned - lost an inch on my hips - planning on

managing my portion sizes a bit more carefully over the next few

weeks, and focusing on cutting out those extra nibbles - if I'm

honest, a few handfuls of my daughters cheerios, raisins, crackers

etc do still occasionally find their way to my mouth lol!)

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've just finished Week 9 of my second challenge. My free days are still

not extreme, but they certainly don't resemble moderation.... My loss has

averaged, over the long term, 1# per week.

I'd like to learn why I still eat sugar stuff on Freeday when it never

satisfies me and I don't enjoy the taste. But that will come in time.

n

At 10:25 AM 1/30/2006, you wrote:

><SNIP>

>Bring your calories up a little (or a lot) in whatever way feels best

>for you and your situation. Some people would rather have a greater

>volume of healthy carbs. Some people want small portions of the really

>rich stuff they're craving. And some people eat everything their heart

>desires, and in fairly crazy quantities. Base it on your progress and

>how you're feeling from week to week. Some weeks you may feel like you

>need to be fairly cautious and some weeks you may feel like you need

>to cut loose. It being free day and all, you can do whatever you want.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Challenge 2 is still early in establishing habits and routines.

What usually happens is the longer you are on BFL the less

appealing free day becomes and you will automatically adjust to

something that doesn't feel forced just because it is there. It will

happen in time.

I don't take free days but will allow myself small inconsequential

cheats on a regular basis. Like today my stomach was still gnawing

in spite of my postworkout(legs and shoulders) shake so I had a

couple of peanut butter slathered graham crackers. The rest of the

day will be clean but this method has kept me from feeling deprived

so I don't have to overeat or binge or anything else.

Stasia

> ><SNIP>

> >Bring your calories up a little (or a lot) in whatever way feels

best

> >for you and your situation. Some people would rather have a

greater

> >volume of healthy carbs. Some people want small portions of the

really

> >rich stuff they're craving. And some people eat everything their

heart

> >desires, and in fairly crazy quantities. Base it on your progress

and

> >how you're feeling from week to week. Some weeks you may feel

like you

> >need to be fairly cautious and some weeks you may feel like you

need

> >to cut loose. It being free day and all, you can do whatever you

want.

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey everyone,

Since the topic was brought up, I thought I might as well share. The free day

is something that really freaks me out. I mean, its weird --- because

eventhough I've lost a lot of weight and have been dieting for years and years,

I'm still the same food addict that I was when I was 11 and 240, you know? So I

really cant help but use the free day as a motivator --- like sometimes on

Saturday for some reason, it takes a lot out of me to wake up at 6:30 and

run...but I keep saying to myself...just think...If I do this right, I get pizza

tommorow! (or something to that extent,) and I find myself on the treadmill

before I know it! :-D The thing is, the free day, in the end, really screws me

up. Cuz I eat whatever I want, and sometimes I dont stop. And every Monday

morning I think about how disgusting I am, and how after years and years of hard

work I'm still the same slave to food that I was all those years ago. Its

really depressing and it makes it very hard for me to go through another week.

But before I know it, Tuesday comes, and I'm already thinking about what I'm

gonna eat next Sunday. (I know, I'm sick in the head

:-\)

And I know that your allowed to eat whatever you want...but most people say that

eventually the free day becomes just like any other day, and you dont feel like

eating as much crap as you used to. I cant help but think...what happens if I

never get to that point? Am I wrong for indulging every week? I mean, I do

work my a$$ off every other day of the week, so part of me says I deserve it.

The other part says that someone that obviously lacks the control to manage a

free day in a normal way doesn't deserve to have it in the first place. I dont

know what to think, you know? All I'm thinking now is, well, its my birthday on

Saturday...how guilty am I gonna feel on Sunday after I eat like a pig on my

birthday? Is it even worth it? I dunno.

Thanks for always listening,

~~~Aliza~~~

Re: This Free Day Thing

Exactly Stasia - I feel calm that the issues will work out as the

weeks/months go by. There hasn't been any issues of my extending the

freeday into multiple consecutive freedays, nor have I eaten on any of them

to the extent that I used to eat nearly EVERYDAY!

How long have you been doing the BFL-food bit?

n

At 07:03 AM 1/31/2006, you wrote:

>Challenge 2 is still early in establishing habits and routines.

>What usually happens is the longer you are on BFL the less

>appealing free day becomes and you will automatically adjust to

>something that doesn't feel forced just because it is there. It will

>happen in time.

<SNIP>

[Guest guest]

I agree. I don't like the free day especially since my bad

experience with my last one, which wasn't even a free day but more

of a free meal. They make me lose total control and then there's the

nasty bloat the next day. Maybe it's still too early in the game for

me to have a free day or meal. Or maybe I just am a food addict

too. :-)

> >Challenge 2 is still early in establishing habits and routines.

> >What usually happens is the longer you are on BFL the less

> >appealing free day becomes and you will automatically adjust to

> >something that doesn't feel forced just because it is there. It

will

> >happen in time.

> <SNIP>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

As I have said before, my free days were legendary and I still dropped 45#

(maintaining now). I was 100% strict 6 days a week and I ate nothing but

chocolate and crap on my free days and still managed to lose. Probably a

good 3K-4K calories at least.

Matter of fact, I lost less on weeks where I had no free day!

So everyone is different. Now that I am maintaining, I still do free day,

but as my weeks contain more (clean) food as a whole I don't go hog wild on

the free day most of the time.

I'm 38 years old, 5'4 and about 122# w/16% BF (down from 168#, 28% BF).

If the free days are hampering your progress, cut them down. If they aren't,

don't feel guilty!

And yes, they DO self taper when you cruise into maintenance. I still eat

oatmeal with PP on my free days because I like it.

[Guest guest]

Thanks

>

> As I have said before, my free days were legendary and I still

dropped 45#

> (maintaining now). I was 100% strict 6 days a week and I ate

nothing but

> chocolate and crap on my free days and still managed to lose.

Probably a

> good 3K-4K calories at least.

>

> Matter of fact, I lost less on weeks where I had no free day!

>

> So everyone is different. Now that I am maintaining, I still do

free day,

> but as my weeks contain more (clean) food as a whole I don't go

hog wild on

> the free day most of the time.

> I'm 38 years old, 5'4 and about 122# w/16% BF (down from 168#, 28%

BF).

>

> If the free days are hampering your progress, cut them down. If

they aren't,

> don't feel guilty!

>

> And yes, they DO self taper when you cruise into maintenance. I

still eat

> oatmeal with PP on my free days because I like it.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was late with my first meal this past freeday.... All I could think of

wanting was my normal egg/oat pudding.... so I had it, and it satisfied me

totally. I love the ritual and routine of it...

n

At 09:03 PM 1/31/2006, you wrote:

><SNIP>

>And yes, they DO self taper when you cruise into maintenance. I still eat

>oatmeal with PP on my free days because I like it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for posting that. I am hoping to give this free day thing a

try. I'm a huge binger. I've committed to a 12 week challenge, and I'm

hoping " free day " will keep clean all week. I don't intend to go hog wild,

but a butterfinger might be in my future again. I can't bear the thought

of never having a piece of chocolate again. Booo hooo!

Diane

At 04:52 PM 1/31/2006, you wrote:

>As I have said before, my free days were legendary and I still dropped 45#

>(maintaining now). I was 100% strict 6 days a week and I ate nothing but

>chocolate and crap on my free days and still managed to lose. Probably a

>good 3K-4K calories at least.

>

>Matter of fact, I lost less on weeks where I had no free day!

>

>So

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[Guest guest]

> ><SNIP>

> >And yes, they DO self taper when you cruise into maintenance. I

still eat

> >oatmeal with PP on my free days because I like it.

> >

> >

I'm that way with my EAS chocolate protein shakes. I love them, they

keep me going for hours.

[Guest guest]

Do you ever find your free day bleeding into Monday?

I am having thisproblem of getting back in the mind

set about eating clean again Monday morning. Even

though I feel crappy Monday morning from eating all my

candy & cereal....I just can't get back into it

Mondays. Any suggestions?

--- claudiamb13 <cbrennan13@...> wrote:

> Thanks

>

>

> >

> > As I have said before, my free days were legendary

> and I still

> dropped 45#

> > (maintaining now). I was 100% strict 6 days a week

> and I ate

> nothing but

> > chocolate and crap on my free days and still

> managed to lose.

> Probably a

> > good 3K-4K calories at least.

> >

> > Matter of fact, I lost less on weeks where I had

> no free day!

> >

> > So everyone is different. Now that I am

> maintaining, I still do

> free day,

> > but as my weeks contain more (clean) food as a

> whole I don't go

> hog wild on

> > the free day most of the time.

> > I'm 38 years old, 5'4 and about 122# w/16% BF

> (down from 168#, 28%

> BF).

> >

> > If the free days are hampering your progress, cut

> them down. If

> they aren't,

> > don't feel guilty!

> >

> > And yes, they DO self taper when you cruise into

> maintenance. I

> still eat

> > oatmeal with PP on my free days because I like it.

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aliza -

Another way of thinking about this is..... for whatever reason, overeating

is a way you have taken care of yourself for many years. It was a method

you used to comfort yourself. Personally, I never found the self-hatred

to be very effective. So I decided to try other methods.

Instead of reprimanding yourself the day after Freeday, deliberately plan

ahead of time to do something nice for yourself (not related to food) on

that day. Find new ways to nurture and care for yourself.

I believe you're a student, so I assume your budget is tight. But a trip

to a used clothing store might find a pair of jeans for $5. Or a trip to

& Noble to look at fashion books of what not to wear. Or a

manicure/pedicure (professional or just yourself). Our local college has a

massage center, and the students there are giving 55 minute massages for 20

minutes. Hair cutting schools do similar things. Or perhaps it is as

simple as grocery shopping for the ingredients for a BFL-approved recipe,

and making dinner for a friend or two. Volunteer to help at a soup

kitchen, or reading to pre-schoolers. Buy a new flavor of tea.

In other words, plan something - anything - for the day-after-freeday. And

switch your focus from what you did or didn't do, to something nice.

HTH

n

At 04:17 PM 1/31/2006, you wrote:

><SNIP> The thing is, the free day, in the end, really screws me up. Cuz I

>eat whatever I want, and sometimes I dont stop. And every Monday morning

>I think about how disgusting I am, and how after years and years of hard

>work I'm still the same slave to food that I was all those years ago. Its

>really depressing and it makes it :-\) <SNIP>

[Guest guest]

The key is to make sure you're really looking forward to your food on

Monday. While you're enjoying your grazing and slacking day, buy or

make some good food for the following week. If your Monday menu looks

something like:

M1) mushy oatmeal, vomitus protein shake

M2) dry metallic tasting protein bar

M3) leftover chicken, over-microwaved potato

M4) vile fat free cottage cheese and iffy tasting yogurt

M5) more leftover chicken, rubberized vegetables

M6) rubbery metallic tasting protein bar

....then of course you're not going to want your food. Take the time to

make some really good pasta salad or taco salad. Have some protein

pancakes made in advance and refrigerated. Make one of the great BFL

desserts like pineapple cheesecake. Plan an authorized fast food meal

into your day. Try to make it look something like:

M1) protein pancakes with hot blueberry syrup

M2) string cheese with strawberries and apricots

M3) 6 " Subway grilled chicken breast on wheat

M4) EFL Cool Taco Salad

M5) big spinach salad with chicken, mandarin oranges, and turkey bacon

M6) BFL Pineapple Cheesecake

When you're actually looking forward to your meals, it's much easier

to stay out of the free day junk. There are some good recipe documents

in the club's Files section. And some sample EFL recipes on the

website

http://eatingforlife.com/recipes/

and some great dessert recipes on Joni's site

http://www.geocities.com/jgrrl2/dessert1.html

http://www.geocities.com/jgrrl2/dessert2.html

and of course, Raylene's famous Jello dessert

http://www.taskoski.com/raylene/recipes/Desserts/Protein_Packed_Jello/protein_pa\

cked_jello.html

I have the protein pancake and some other ideas on my What I Eat Page

http://www.skwigg.com/id3.html.

If your commitment is wavering, your clean food has to be as tasty as

whatever is tempting you. You also need to watch out for self-sabotage

and make sure you don't wake up Monday morning telling yourself

nonsense about how it's too hard, and it's not worth it, and you may

as well just eat the rest of the Lucky Charms and get fat.

What's going on in your head determines what you put in your mouth. So

if your brain starts talking nonsense, remind it why you're doing this

and how good you'll feel when you accomplish your goals.

On 2/1/06, Debbie <deborah3453@...> wrote:

> Do you ever find your free day bleeding into Monday?

> I am having thisproblem of getting back in the mind

> set about eating clean again Monday morning. Even

> though I feel crappy Monday morning from eating all my

> candy & cereal....I just can't get back into it

> Mondays. Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

Crack me up, I'd laugh out loud if I didn't have laryngitis.

That's an excellent suggestion, so obvious, yet I never would have

thought of it. I love the Day After Free Day Revision.

Diane

>

> The key is to make sure you're really looking forward to your food

on

> Monday. While you're enjoying your grazing and slacking day, buy or

> make some good food for the following week. If your Monday menu

looks

> something like:

>

> M1) mushy oatmeal, vomitus protein shake

> M2) dry metallic tasting protein bar

>

[Guest guest]

on the dessert ideas, I love experimenting with " good " desserts, but

I have yet to find one I love. I froze a banana and I'm going to

try the " sundae " from EFL. I have a suspicion I won't be fooled

however LOL. I tried the Vanilla Malt Shake from EFL last night,

but I could taste the protein powder. I really don't like that

taste!!!

Keep the ideas coming!

Diane

>

> http://eatingforlife.com/recipes/

>

> and some great dessert recipes on Joni's site

>

> http://www.geocities.com/jgrrl2/dessert1.html

> http://www.geocities.com/jgrrl2/dessert2.html

>

> and of course, Raylene's famous Jello dessert

>

>

[Guest guest]

I made this 'treat' today, and it came out pretty good. I tend to dislike

the coloring and/or aftertaste from the chocolate pudding, but....

Pudding Mousse

2 cups low fat cottage cheese (or lf ricotta)

1 4oz pkg sf chocolate pudding (or your flavor of choice)

3/8 cup liquid eggwhites (you can probably omit, or just some milk)

I just whipped it with an immersion blender, and then portioned it

out. Refrigerate then serve. It's probably low on carb, so add some

berries or banana.

n

At 10:03 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:

>on the dessert ideas, I love experimenting with " good " desserts, but

>I have yet to find one I love. I froze a banana and I'm going to

>try the " sundae " from EFL. I have a suspicion I won't be fooled

>however LOL. I tried the Vanilla Malt Shake from EFL last night,

>but I could taste the protein powder. I really don't like that

>taste!!!

>

>Keep the ideas coming!

>Diane

[Guest guest]

try th efl pumpkin cheesecake. im addicted to it! cant wait to have it as my

meal 6! yummy

[Guest guest]

Excellent suggestion!

shelley

Re: This Free Day Thing

Aliza -

Another way of thinking about this is..... for whatever reason,

overeating

is a way you have taken care of yourself for many years. It was a

method

you used to comfort yourself. Personally, I never found the

self-hatred

to be very effective. So I decided to try other methods.

Instead of reprimanding yourself the day after Freeday, deliberately

plan ahead of time to do something nice for yourself (not related to

food) on that day. Find new ways to nurture and care for yourself.

I believe you're a student, so I assume your budget is tight. But a

trip to a used clothing store might find a pair of jeans for $5. Or a

trip to & Noble to look at fashion books of what not to wear. Or

a manicure/pedicure (professional or just yourself). Our local college

has a massage center, and the students there are giving 55 minute

massages for 20 minutes. Hair cutting schools do similar things. Or

perhaps it is as simple as grocery shopping for the ingredients for a

BFL-approved recipe, and making dinner for a friend or two. Volunteer

to help at a soup kitchen, or reading to pre-schoolers. Buy a new

flavor of tea.

In other words, plan something - anything - for the day-after-freeday.

And switch your focus from what you did or didn't do, to something nice.

HTH

n

At 04:17 PM 1/31/2006, you wrote:

><SNIP> The thing is, the free day, in the end, really screws me up.

>Cuz I eat whatever I want, and sometimes I dont stop. And every Monday

>morning I think about how disgusting I am, and how after years and

>years of hard work I'm still the same slave to food that I was all

>those years ago. Its really depressing and it makes it :-\) <SNIP>

[Guest guest]

-just pulled this from a website..

Featured EAS Recipes

Dessert Recipe

Print IconPrint Recipe

Choco-Cottage Cheese

I am a serious chocolate-lover, so I enjoy this recipe from time to time.

1 portion non-fat cottage cheese

1 tablespoon Hershey’s European Style Cocoa

1/2 packet sweetener

3 low-fat graham crackers

Mix cottage cheese, cocoa, and sweetener in a bowl until thoroughly mixed. Use

graham crackers to dip and enjoy! Tastes like chocolate pudding! I also like

using 2 pieces whole-wheat toast (instead of graham crackers) and piling the mix

on top.

and the site is....

http://www.eas.com/nutrition/recipes.asp?recipeMealID=6

[Guest guest]

DO SHARE!!!!

>

> try th efl pumpkin cheesecake. im addicted to it! cant wait to have

it as my meal 6! yummy

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In regards to 'the next day' after free day (remember I ate like a big ol

piggy on mine), no I never had any slippage the day after. I don't think I

was even tempted as I was still kinda queasy from my free day . Keep in

mind I don't pig out that badly anymore - even if it didn't impact my

progress I just don't feel like it most of the time. However, make sure your

free day is planned and indulge in what you REALLY want. Don't waste it on

crap that's 'just there'. If you want ice cream get your favorite kind, etc.

I went through a baking phase where every free day I'd bake cookies (and

ahem.. taste the cookie dough). I'd send the remainder of the cookies to

work with my husband so I didn't have to look at them, but honestly I would

have left them alone.

Skwigg is right - if your regular food days are a pile of chicken breasts

and limp lettuce I can sure see being tempted to cheat!

Examples of 'fun' meals to go with your chicken and rice:

Oat Bran w/chocolate protein powder and SF davinci Syrup (toffee mmm)

Cottage cheese with sweetener and protein cake or Blueberries or

Strawberries

The ever popular Protein pancake

Met-RX (powder) shakes with a lot of ice and extra stevia (sorry, these blow

myoplex away in taste IMO)

WW chicken bbq pizza (WW low carb tortilla w/onions, chicken, a dash BBQ

sauce and a bit of ff cheese)

Salmon burger on a WW ezekiel bun with the usual condiments and lots of

onions

Strained FF yogurt (I make this myself, higher in protein) w/ protein cake

(google yocheese if you haven't heard of this).

(protein cake is essentially one of the homemade protein bar recipes with a

little extra. I make it with WW flour (100g), Protein powder (100g), 1/2c

pumpkin, 1/3c egg whites, baking powder and sweetener (erythritol, stevia

and a bit of splenda plus about 1/2 tb of glycerin (optional). Sometimes it

works out well, sometimes it doesn't. Might be the altitude here. You can

also use oat flour or spelt and I've also tried barley.

Of course, again, everyone is different. I doubt my metabolism was all that

great or I wouldn't have had 45# to lose in the first place, but if you are

stalled free day would probably be the first place to look. I also did more

cardio than is recommended, but not outrageous amounts.

[Guest guest]

What I do on my cheating day is to have the " real " thing. That means

that if I feel like eating cheesecake, I am not going to have some

look alike from the grocery store - I have a good piece, just one, of

my favorite cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory. If I am going to

have pizza, I don't eat Dominos, I go to my favorite pizza joint and

eat 3 slices..etc. I don't have all my favorites at once, but treat

myself to what I call " calorie worthy " food...

It works for me and it keeps me from cheating the rest of the

week...or over doing it on my free day. When I had the last bite of

that Snikers Bar Cheesecake it's back to reality.

During the week, I treat myself to a sugar free pudding w/2 table

spoons of fat free whip cream and I cut up some strawberries and

blueberries. I serve to myself in a pretty dish, so it looks awesome

and it tastes great!

Good Luck!

[Guest guest]

The last thing I do on my free day is prepare my food for the next week so

everything is ready to go on Monday, then Monday feels fresh. Also the

longer you do this the less insane your free days are. I had company

yesterday so yesterday was the free day. I didn¹t even have a dessert. I

went to the gym, had a bfl breakfast, then hit a Starbucks around 11 for a

scone and coffee, had lunch around two with meatloaf and mashed potatoes and

then went wine tasting. The portions were larger than usual and we hit 5

wineries, I didn¹t have dinner because I was still full from lunch and

that¹s a free day for me.

On 2/1/06 7:59 AM, " Debbie " <deborah3453@...> wrote:

> Do you ever find your free day bleeding into Monday?

> I am having thisproblem of getting back in the mind

> set about eating clean again Monday morning. Even

> though I feel crappy Monday morning from eating all my

> candy & cereal....I just can't get back into it

> Mondays. Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

The EFL sundae is DELICIOUS! I eat them on free day!

--- Diane <dmiller91@...> wrote:

> on the dessert ideas, I love experimenting with

> " good " desserts, but

> I have yet to find one I love. I froze a banana and

> I'm going to

> try the " sundae " from EFL. I have a suspicion I

> won't be fooled

> however LOL. I tried the Vanilla Malt Shake from

> EFL last night,

> but I could taste the protein powder. I really

> don't like that

> taste!!!

>

> Keep the ideas coming!

> Diane

>

>

> >

> > http://eatingforlife.com/recipes/

> >

> > and some great dessert recipes on Joni's site

> >

> > http://www.geocities.com/jgrrl2/dessert1.html

> > http://www.geocities.com/jgrrl2/dessert2.html

> >

> > and of course, Raylene's famous Jello dessert

> >

> >

>

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