Re: Fatigue & Light-Headed

[Guest guest]

The only times I've been that way were if I was pregnant or if I

just lost blood. I had a miscarriage and lost a lot of blood from

it at one point. When I had to give three vials of blood to for the

getting married blood tests, I remember feeling faint when I stood

up too fast and I had to get get a drink of water.

I think it has something to do with your red blood cells and their

ability to carry oxygen fast enough. I think if you get anemic,

your body is not able to keep the supply up to the demand, and some

say iron helps with it, but you have to be careful because it's

possible to take in too much iron to where your body can't get rid

of it fast enough.

Marie in TX

mommom31tx@...

>

> Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while doing

> resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower legs

this

> morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had to

sit

> down.

>

> Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses of

water

> right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

Was this the first time your ever felt lightheaded? Maybe you need

to eat something or get something in your system before lifting. I

know this my hinder the fat burning effect, but I read somewhere

that eating something (I can't remember if it should be carbs or

protein) can help to give you energy to lift more. I'll see if I can

find what I read.

> >

> > Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while doing

> > resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower legs

> this

> > morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had to

> sit

> > down.

> >

> > Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses of

> water

> > right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Eat something before you lift. If you're doing strenuous weights on an

empty stomach after hours of fasting, your blood sugar can drop so low

that you get dizzy and shaky and nauseous.

I once had a conversation with my trainer that went something like,

" Either you can eat something before you come here, or I can sit on

you and put a glucose pill in your mouth when you hit the floor. " Now,

being somewhat stubborn and perpetually late for everything, I have

scrambled out the door with no food, hit the floor, and needed the

glucose pill. :-) They're these big weird purple things. Taste like

sidewalk chalk. Blah...

It won't hurt your fat burning to have a little something before

weights. If you feel good, you're going to push yourself harder and

burn more calories. You don't want an actual giant meal in your

stomach. You want something with both protein and carbs that's small

and easy to digest. Some good options:

half a protein bar

a protein shake w/half a banana

2-3 dried apricots and a heaping tablespoon of cottage cheese

1 cup of 1% milk

1 tbsp peanut butter

You're not trying to eat a filling meal, you're just trying to

stabilize your blood sugar enough that you're not wobbly and woozy

when you're holding big iron weights over your head.

I usually eat before and immediately after weights (feed muscle) and

do cardio on an empty stomach and weight an hour (starve fat).

On 1/23/06, <stephy.miller@...> wrote:

> Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while doing

> resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower legs this

> morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had to sit

> down.

>

> Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses of water

> right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'm going to chime in here just because this was a recent issue for

me. I was drinking 4 liters of water (minimum) a day. A typical day

is more like 5-6 though. I was having the same issues and cut back on

my water consumption, only allowing myself to drink every 30 minutes

in the gym. (I spend a lot of time in the gym!) When I cut back on my

water consumption everything was better. I had more energy, a lot

less fatigue, less hungry, less muscle cramping, especially in my

legs. I was sleeping almost 10 hours a day too and now I'm back to 7-

8 hours of sleep.

I was reading in a running magazine how runners sabotage themselves

with the myth of water drinking, so I tried it and it was very true

for me. My suggestion is to not drink so much before working out and

see if that helps. Also, I began doing a protein drink w/ a 1/2

banana 30 minutes before working out and that helped tremendously too.\

dj

>

> Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while doing

> resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower legs this

> morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had to sit

> down.

>

> Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses of water

> right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

>

[Guest guest]

I found the source:

When you're eating 5 or 6 times a day instead of 3, your portions

had better be much smaller than they used to be. As a rule of thumb,

it's generally advised to target between 8-10 calories per pound of

desired weight, if you're shooting for fat loss, and up to 15

calories per pound of desired weight if you're shooting for muscle

gain. The problem is that fat itself is metabolically inactive, so

it's better to base your intake on lean weight rather than scale

weight. If you want a quick rule of thumb, I prefer the following:

shoot for 9-11 calories per pound of lean weight if your main goal

is fat loss, and about 15-17 calories per pound of lean weight if

your main goal is muscle gain without fat loss. Now, 9 calories per

lean pound is almost certainly below your Base Metabolic Rate (see

below), so you shouldn't go with much less than 9 even if you're

aggressively targeting fat loss. [Example: If you weigh 180 pounds

and are at 20% bodyfat, your fat weighs .20 x 180 = 36 pounds, so

your lean weight is 180 - 36 = 144 pounds. So you might target 1300-

1600 calories daily to achieve a fat loss goal].

from hussmanfitness.org

> > >

> > > Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while doing

> > > resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower

legs

> > this

> > > morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had

to

> > sit

> > > down.

> > >

> > > Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses of

> > water

> > > right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Ooh, yeah! You reminded me of the low-blood pressure room spins, so

I'll chime in again. We're like a doorbell. :-)

You can have low blood sugar (shaky/queasy) from training hard with no

fuel, or you can have low blood pressure (dizzy/woozy/spinning

sensation) from low blood pressure. My blood pressure is already so

low that if I drop my sodium and processed carbs too much and drink

too much water, it can result in the purple room spins. You know, that

sensation when you stand up too fast and everything turns purple, or

you turn your head quickly and your head stops but the room keeps

going. LOL If I start having those sensations, I know I've gone to far

with the squeaky clean eating and lots of water. I'll have some sodium

and processed carbs, like a whole wheat pita with canned tuna and I'll

feel about 1000% better.

If there's hardly any sodium in your diet to begin with, and then you

sweat like crazy during hard training, and then you dilute your

electrolytes even further by drinking buckets of plain water, you can

get yourself into quite a predicament. Like DJ said, it can drop your

blood pressure dangerously low or cause muscle cramps. Just one more

possibility to consider.

On 1/23/06, b0onla1 <no_reply > wrote:

> I'm going to chime in here just because this was a recent issue for

> me. I was drinking 4 liters of water (minimum) a day. A typical day

> is more like 5-6 though. I was having the same issues and cut back on

> my water consumption, only allowing myself to drink every 30 minutes

> in the gym. (I spend a lot of time in the gym!) When I cut back on my

> water consumption everything was better. I had more energy, a lot

> less fatigue, less hungry, less muscle cramping, especially in my

> legs. I was sleeping almost 10 hours a day too and now I'm back to 7-

> 8 hours of sleep.

>

> I was reading in a running magazine how runners sabotage themselves

> with the myth of water drinking, so I tried it and it was very true

> for me. My suggestion is to not drink so much before working out and

> see if that helps. Also, I began doing a protein drink w/ a 1/2

> banana 30 minutes before working out and that helped tremendously too.\

>

> dj

[Guest guest]

Thanks all for your input. I will try eating something 30 minutes

before I workout the next time I do resistance training!

> > > >

> > > > Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while

doing

> > > > resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower

> legs

> > > this

> > > > morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had

> to

> > > sit

> > > > down.

> > > >

> > > > Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses

of

> > > water

> > > > right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have a question about this formula. I am 5 feet tall and weigh

112 pounds (43 years old). My bodyfat is currently 25%. If I want

to gain muscle and lose fat according to the formula I need to eat

around 750-850 calories. Can this be right?! I'm currently eating

around 1400-1500. Maybe I did the math wrong. Help! cm

> > > >

> > > > Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while

doing

> > > > resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower

> legs

> > > this

> > > > morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had

> to

> > > sit

> > > > down.

> > > >

> > > > Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses

of

> > > water

> > > > right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well your carrying about 84 pounds of lean mass. If you want to gain

muscles that's times 15 which comes out to 1260. What you might want

to do is to build up some muscle before you start trying to cut the

fat. Of course with BFL it does sort of work simultaneously. You

should never ever drop your calories much below 1200. That's just not

healthy and you're not feeding your muscles that way. Sounds like

you're hitting a titch high but if you're making progress I wouldn't

mess with it.

Deb

> > > > >

> > > > > Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while

> doing

> > > > > resistance training at the gym? I was working on my lower

> > legs

> > > > this

> > > > > morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I had

> > to

> > > > sit

> > > > > down.

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2 glasses

> of

> > > > water

> > > > > right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Deb,

So are you saying that for me, I should aim for 15 cals per pound of

lean mass even if I want to lose fat? If I go any lower (say 9-11)

that will put me under 1200, right? Sorry to be so slow ;-) I find

that when I eat below 1300 calorie I am really hungry. In fact,

sometimes I'm still hungry at 1500 even following BFL to a tee.

This is C2:W4:D5 for me. On my first challenge I lost about 4

pounds and dropped my bodyfat to 23%. I took about a month off over

the holidays and gained back about 1-2 pounds and 2% bodyfat. I

sometimes wonder if I am at a point where it's impossible to lose

any more weight. I wear a size 4 comfortably but would like to look

more muscular and toned. If that's the case should I just focus on

gaining muscle and not worry about losing fat? I appreciate any

feedback.

cm

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Have any of you ever been fatigue or light-headed while

> > doing

> > > > > > resistance training at the gym? I was working on my

lower

> > > legs

> > > > > this

> > > > > > morning, and I felt that way for a couple of moments. I

had

> > > to

> > > > > sit

> > > > > > down.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you know why I was feeling this way? I drank 2

glasses

> > of

> > > > > water

> > > > > > right before I went to the gym. Any suggestions?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Keep in mind that these are very broad formulas based on average sized

people. If you're very big or very small, the numbers might not work

for you at all. Most people who are already at or near their ideal

weight use 15-17 times total body weight as their muscle gain formula,

which for you at 112 pounds would mean 1680-1904 if you're only trying

to gain. Or if you're going for fat loss with muscle gain 12-15 times

total body weight would be 1344-1680.

And the other thing I always throw in when the math formulas start

flying is that NOBODY can give you the magic number. No expert, no

calculator, no article, no online club knows your body as well as you

do. Everyone's age, hormones, diet history, activity level,

metabolism, and food preferences are different. The formulas can give

you a solid starting point, but how much you eat each day should be

based on your own results and nothing else. Don't cling to a certain

number that you read somewhere. Adjust things up or down based on how

you feel and how you're progressing each week.

Unless you really love math or you really feel stuck, I would go with

the muscle gain recommendation in the Body for Life book, which is to

include two carb portions and one protein portion in your first three

meals of the day, and have one carb portion and one protein portion in

your last three meals of the day.

On 1/23/06, clovermillie <chmurphy@...> wrote:

> Deb,

> So are you saying that for me, I should aim for 15 cals per pound of

> lean mass even if I want to lose fat? If I go any lower (say 9-11)

> that will put me under 1200, right? Sorry to be so slow ;-) I find

> that when I eat below 1300 calorie I am really hungry. In fact,

> sometimes I'm still hungry at 1500 even following BFL to a tee.

>

> This is C2:W4:D5 for me. On my first challenge I lost about 4

> pounds and dropped my bodyfat to 23%. I took about a month off over

> the holidays and gained back about 1-2 pounds and 2% bodyfat. I

> sometimes wonder if I am at a point where it's impossible to lose

> any more weight. I wear a size 4 comfortably but would like to look

> more muscular and toned. If that's the case should I just focus on

> gaining muscle and not worry about losing fat? I appreciate any

> feedback.

>

> cm

[Guest guest]

" clovermillie " <chmurphy@...>

>when I eat below 1300 calorie I am really hungry. In fact,

sometimes I'm still hungry at 1500 even following BFL to a tee.

You might want to add 1-2 cups of vegies and or a large salad to your meals.

That helps the hunger without adding the calories.

> This is C2:W4:D5 for me. On my first challenge I lost about 4

>pounds and dropped my bodyfat to 23%. I took about a month off over

>the holidays and gained back about 1-2 pounds and 2% bodyfat. I

>sometimes wonder if I am at a point where it's impossible to lose

any more weight.

Well you were 3 months on and 1 whole month off. I don't think this is a " diet "

that you stop, IF you want to maintain the results... You might want to redefine

what you will do food and exercise wise when you are " off " BFL so you maintain

your successes. Something modified, but not totally " off. "

Etana

[Guest guest]

Could this be why I am so COLD after I lift? I normally don't eat

anything before I lift.

>

> Eat something before you lift. If you're doing strenuous weights on

an

> empty stomach after hours of fasting, your blood sugar can drop so

low

> that you get dizzy and shaky and nauseous.

>

[Guest guest]

DJ,

Do you count that pre-workout snack as a meal?

> Also, I began doing a protein drink w/ a 1/2

> banana 30 minutes before working out and that helped tremendously

too.\

>

> dj

>

[Guest guest]

,

Yes, I time it so that it becomes a meal. If it were just a protein

drink I may not count it, but I add a banana and flaxseed meal, so

it becomes a meal and almost 300 calories.

dj

>

> DJ,

>

> Do you count that pre-workout snack as a meal?

>

>

>

>

> > Also, I began doing a protein drink w/ a 1/2

> > banana 30 minutes before working out and that helped

tremendously

> too.\

> >

> > dj

> >

>