Guest guest Posted January 1, 2002 Report Share Posted January 1, 2002 Thanks Mel. Now I know why my shoulders hurt. I would get a hurt sensation, rather than a burn, apparently because I was doing my chest workout at the same time as my shoulder workout (apparently hitting the deltiod too hard). I'm going to switch my shoulders workout to the same day as my back woprkout, and see how my shoulders feel then (I do only two -weights- workouts a week). Bob Mckee Atlanta GA USA Bobbler@... ---- Mcsiff@... wrote: <SNIP> Let me quote the findings by Dr McL and other scientists in this regard (references cited in DrMcLaughin's book): 1. The anterior deltoid is near maximally involved during the entire lift, using any style of bench pressing. 2. Triceps involvement is so large near the top of the movement that it is the limiting factor in this region. 3. During the phase from just off the chest to about halfway to two-thirds of the way up, pectoralis major is the limiting factor and is the most involved muscle 4. The anterior deltoids using wide and narrow grips are near maximally involved during the entire lift, using any style. 5. A wide grip keeps pectoralis major at a greater length longer during the lift and permits the muscle to be of more help to successful completion of the lift. 6. A narrow grip involves the triceps more and pectoralis major less. Anyway, it is nonsense and spurious to talk about any " most important " muscle in any movement, because all movement involves the synergistic action of many stabilising and mobilising muscle groups. If any one muscle is deficient or injured, your lift will suffer seriously. Each muscle changes its percentage contribution to a given movement as the joint angles change, so that the triceps may dominate during one stage, but other muscles will dominate at other stages, as we have noted in the research results cited above. <SNIP> Dr Mel C Siff Denver, USA Supertraining/ __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2002 Report Share Posted January 2, 2002 I have a tangential issue regarding the bench press that I am hoping someone more knowledgeable would answer. Specifically, is there a " correct " or preferred angle for the incline bench press? What are the biomechanical (if this is the correct term) implications of increasing or decreasing the angle? [it depends on what your training objective is. There is no " correct " angle, because traditionally one chooses an incline to place more or less load on certain muscles. One major difference between flatter and steeper inclined pressing is that there is more compressive spinal loading during the latter. Mel Siff] Thank you, Joe Sacco Stony Point USA ------------- Have a Nice Day <Bobbler@...> wrote: > Thanks Mel. Now I know why my shoulders hurt. I > would get a hurt sensation, rather than a burn, apparently because > I was doing my chest workout at the same time as my > shoulder workout (apparently hitting the deltiod too hard). I'm > going to switch my shoulders workout to the same day > as my back woprkout, and see how my shoulders feel > then (I do only two -weights- workouts a week). > > Bob Mckee ---- Mcsiff@... wrote: > ........Let me quote the findings by Dr McL and other > scientists in this regard > (references cited in DrMcLaughin's book): > > 1. The anterior deltoid is near maximally involved > during the entire lift, > using any style of bench pressing. > > 2. Triceps involvement is so large near the top of > the movement that it is > the limiting factor in this region. > > 3. During the phase from just off the chest to > about halfway to two-thirds > of the way up, pectoralis major is the limiting > factor and is the most > involved muscle > > 4. The anterior deltoids using wide and narrow > grips are near maximally > involved during the entire lift, using any style. > > 5. A wide grip keeps pectoralis major at a greater > length longer during the > lift and permits the muscle to be of more help to > successful completion of > the lift. > > 6. A narrow grip involves the triceps more and > pectoralis major less. > > Anyway, it is nonsense and spurious to talk about > any " most important " muscle in any movement, > because all movement involves the synergistic > action of many stabilising and mobilising muscle > groups. If any one muscle is deficient or injured, > your lift will suffer seriously. Each muscle > changes its percentage contribution to a given > movement as the joint angles change, so that the triceps > may dominate during one stage, but other muscles > will dominate at other stages, as we have noted > in the research results cited above. ......... > > Dr Mel C Siff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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