Re: Lifting heavy and joint pain

January 1, 2006

I have been having troubles with joint pain when lifting heavy. I am

currently wearing elbow braces which helps but my problem is I need to

lift the heavy weights for the muscles or I don't really feel it but when

I lift heavy my joints give me problems. I have all but given up doing

calf exercises because I need to lift about 300 pounds to feel it in my

calves and my ankles can't handle it. I have switched to doing lower

weights and many reps on the leg press machine for calves as I'm not sure

what else to do. Does anyone else have this problem or any suggestions

for me?

Michele T.

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:14:12 -0600 Skwigg <skwigg@...> writes:

> Ah, good question. Yes, when you " lift heavy " the last few reps

> should

> be very profoundly uncomfortable. :-) The kind of thing where your

> muscles are shaking, and you're not quite sure you're going to make

> it, and you might find yourself muttering things like " pain is

> weakness leaving the body " as you give it everything you've got and

> MAKE that last rep happen with good form. That's lifting heavy.

> Keeping that level of intensity involves increasing the weights and

> changing the exercises on a regular basis.

>

> It takes a few workouts to get a feel for the weights you need to

> use.

> You want the last few reps to be very challenging, especially on

> the

> heavier sets, but you don't want a weight so heavy that you can't

> use

>

January 2, 2006

I get pain in my knees when I am doing some of my lower body weight

training. I tried some MSM & Glucosamine cream right on the spot of

aching. I have used this cream with tremendous success for sprains,

and since the ingredients are mainly for joints, it would hopefully

work for them as well when applied topically.

I haven't used it for very long, though....so nothing to report yet

for the joint pain. But I will let you know as time progresses how

it is working for me.

Liz

>

> I have been having troubles with joint pain when lifting heavy. I

am

> currently wearing elbow braces which helps but my problem is I

need to

> lift the heavy weights for the muscles or I don't really feel it

but when

> I lift heavy my joints give me problems. I have all but given up

doing

> calf exercises because I need to lift about 300 pounds to feel it

in my

> calves and my ankles can't handle it. I have switched to doing

lower

> weights and many reps on the leg press machine for calves as I'm

not sure

> what else to do. Does anyone else have this problem or any

suggestions

> for me?

> Michele T.

>

> On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:14:12 -0600 Skwigg <skwigg@g...> writes:

> > Ah, good question. Yes, when you " lift heavy " the last few reps

> > should

> > be very profoundly uncomfortable. :-) The kind of thing where

your

> > muscles are shaking, and you're not quite sure you're going to

make

> > it, and you might find yourself muttering things like " pain is

> > weakness leaving the body " as you give it everything you've got

and

> > MAKE that last rep happen with good form. That's lifting heavy.

> > Keeping that level of intensity involves increasing the weights

and

> > changing the exercises on a regular basis.

> >

> > It takes a few workouts to get a feel for the weights you need

to

> > use.

> > You want the last few reps to be very challenging, especially on

> > the

> > heavier sets, but you don't want a weight so heavy that you

can't

> > use

> >

>

January 2, 2006

My husband and I, all three dogs, our parents, neighbors and

co-workers all take Glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM supplements for

healthy joints. Products that combine the three ingredients seem to

work best.

I had shoulder and hip pain (history now), my husband had tennis elbow

(gone), the oldest dog had arthritis (she's jumping on and off the

deck again now), and another has severe hip dysplasia (but you would

never know it because he's never in pain).

Humans take: Maximum Strength Flex-a-min (available at drugstores)

Dogs take: Glyco-Flex III (available at veterinary supply stores)

These are not pain relievers and you won't notice an immediate

difference. It takes a couple of months to see big changes but the

products will actually rebuild cartilage, strengthen connective

tissue, and lubricate the joints. Once your joints are healthy and

strong, they don't hurt anymore.

On 1/1/06, Michele Templeman <mbtempleman@...> wrote:

> I have been having troubles with joint pain when lifting heavy. I am

> currently wearing elbow braces which helps but my problem is I need to

> lift the heavy weights for the muscles or I don't really feel it but when

> I lift heavy my joints give me problems. I have all but given up doing

> calf exercises because I need to lift about 300 pounds to feel it in my

> calves and my ankles can't handle it. I have switched to doing lower

> weights and many reps on the leg press machine for calves as I'm not sure

> what else to do. Does anyone else have this problem or any suggestions

> for me?

> Michele T.

>

January 7, 2006

- You wrote that you take MSM for your joints. I was looking up protein

shakes, and I ran across this, and I wanted your opinion, and everyone's else's

opinion, too. It's from Pat on.

Pat's Age-Defying Shake

6-8 ounces of orange juice (water, other fruit juices, low-fat or skim milk

can be substituted)

5 T soy protein isolate

5 T whey protein isolate

2 T natural apple cider vinegar

1 T flaxseed oil

1 T safflower oil

2 T soy lecithin

1 t MSM powder

5-6 frozen strawberries ( other fruits can be substituted)

Non-caloric sweetener to taste

4-5 ice cubes

Blend until the shake is smooth. Can put in 2 T of non-fat yogurt or 1

banana, and 1 t creatine (5 g)

What do you think? I am so new to all of these supplements, but I have heard

them mentioned a lot on this board, so I would really like the opinion of those

who have had experience or knowledge about them. It has 32 grams of protein,

and as a vegetarian, I am really trying to find protein sources which " pack a

whollup. " If it weren't for cottage cheese, I don't know what I would have

done!!! Beth P.

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