Guest guest Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 Just wanted to know if anyone here had tried these water Ionizes and what you thought about the possible benefits of using such a filter? Lots of claims that they improve health, hydrate the body etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 , Getting the right kind of system can make all the difference. Here's a link: http://gobeyondorganic.com/health1.html The machine separates water into acid water and alkaline water. The acid water isn't edible. It's very beneficial for external uses. The alkaline water is what you use for drinking (and cooking, etc., too). It has a very highly negative charge and takes acid waste deposites that have accumulated in the tissues out of the body, which is why it takes many, many years off the appearance of people who've been drinking it. n > Just wanted to know if anyone here had tried these water Ionizes and what > you thought about the possible benefits of using such a filter? Lots of > claims that they improve health, hydrate the body etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 --- In , " n " <emailforerinn@a...> wrote: > , > > Getting the right kind of system can make all the difference. > Here's a link: > > http://gobeyondorganic.com/health1.html I'm always wary of water treatment sales schtick that brings up the myth that RO or distilled water will leach minerals from the body. That's also the first reference I've ever seen to RO and distilled water being labeled as poison in Europe, and I could find nothing to back up the claim. Looks to me like just more fear-based marketing BS, which is all too common in the field of water treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 I have a flow through water ionizer. (I also got one for my mom and also my in-laws). It is a relatively inexpensive Korean model, and probably cheaper than the annual sodapop expense of the average family. Picked it because it is simple to use, just hook to the faucet and poof, ionized water. Personally, I would like to get a batch model, but I already have enough projects everyday, so it likely wouldn't get used much. I did a lot of research before buying, probably looked at most every website with " water ionizer " on it. Only found a couple negative sites, and from what I read there, these folks were on a mission to debunk ionizers (or, imho, awfully close-minded). Aside from the Japanese and Korean studies, there actually are a couple of US university studies online, one was on immune deficient mice, where the ionized water group definately lived longer. Also a couple studies on improved health with dairy cows, and a number of well known wholistic healing centers are using them, etc. There is a website out there, explaining how to build your own batch model, if you are " handy " , and another selling a bare-bones econo (slow) batch model for around $150. One drawback to the flow- through models is the replacement filters aren't cheap. I like the ionized water, it is smoother, goes down easier, than tap water, and so I am more likely to drink the water. I figure the alkaline (alkaline minerals, calcium, magnesium) part has gotta be helpful, the oxygen is good, and any orp would be a plus. When first drawn, the alkaline water is nearly white, full of tiny bubbles, and it looks like water from a mountain stream. I can't attribute a specific profound health improvement, (I have made other dietary changes beside the ionizer), though my ph has definately gone up, among other positive changes. I also use the acid water for washing produce, etc. The acid water would possibly somewhat resemble a natural sulphur springs water? It seems to have a sterilizing & preservative effect also, like pickling in vinegar, but without the vinegar taste. I am experimenting with using the acid water for soaking grains, but interestingly, the ionizer mfg, recommends the alkaline water for cooking. So, I haven't quite figured out the soaking, cooking part yet... anyone have any suggestions on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 What do you mean by " your pH " ? Your blood pH? I have lots of pH's, depending on where you look in my body, and you do too. I sure hope your stomach pH hasn't gone up, or you're just going to disable your pepsin enzymes. If your blood pH went up, that's only good if it was too low, and if it did, I assure you it had nothing to do with the acidity or alkalinity of the water you're drinking. Chris In a message dated 10/10/2003 7:51:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, felspar@... writes: > When first drawn, the alkaline water is nearly white, full of tiny > bubbles, and it looks like water from a mountain stream. I can't > attribute a specific profound health improvement, (I have made other > dietary changes beside the ionizer), though my ph has > definately > gone up, among other positive changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 What do you mean by " your pH " ? Your blood pH? I have lots of pH's, depending on where you look in my body, and you do too. I sure hope your stomach pH hasn't gone up, or you're just going to disable your pepsin enzymes. If your blood pH went up, that's only good if it was too low, and if it did, I assure you it had nothing to do with the acidity or alkalinity of the water you're drinking. Chris In a message dated 10/10/2003 7:51:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, felspar@... writes: > When first drawn, the alkaline water is nearly white, full of tiny > bubbles, and it looks like water from a mountain stream. I can't > attribute a specific profound health improvement, (I have made other > dietary changes beside the ionizer), though my ph has > definately > gone up, among other positive changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2003 Report Share Posted October 10, 2003 , The acid water is for soaking non-absorbant foods that may have bad bacteria on them, like chicken from a questionable source. The alkaline water is the one that's meant to be ingested. Just add the whey (or in the case of very severe dairy allergy, lemon juice) to the alkaline water before using it to soak grains. --n > I have a flow through water ionizer. (I also got one for my mom and > also my in-laws). It is a relatively inexpensive Korean model, and > probably cheaper than the annual sodapop expense of the average > family. Picked it because it is simple to use, just hook to the > faucet and poof, ionized water. Personally, I would like to get a > batch model, but I already have enough projects everyday, so it > likely wouldn't get used much. > > I did a lot of research before buying, probably looked at most every > website with " water ionizer " on it. Only found a couple negative > sites, and from what I read there, these folks were on a mission to > debunk ionizers (or, imho, awfully close-minded). > > Aside from the Japanese and Korean studies, there actually are a > couple of US university studies online, one was on immune deficient > mice, where the ionized water group definately lived longer. Also a > couple studies on improved health with dairy cows, and a number of > well known wholistic healing centers are using them, etc. > > There is a website out there, explaining how to build your own batch > model, if you are " handy " , and another selling a bare-bones econo > (slow) batch model for around $150. One drawback to the flow- > through models is the replacement filters aren't cheap. > > I like the ionized water, it is smoother, goes down easier, than tap > water, and so I am more likely to drink the water. I figure the > alkaline (alkaline minerals, calcium, magnesium) part has gotta be > helpful, the oxygen is good, and any orp would be a plus. > > When first drawn, the alkaline water is nearly white, full of tiny > bubbles, and it looks like water from a mountain stream. I can't > attribute a specific profound health improvement, (I have made other > dietary changes beside the ionizer), though my ph has definately > gone up, among other positive changes. > > I also use the acid water for washing produce, etc. The acid water > would possibly somewhat resemble a natural sulphur springs water? > It seems to have a sterilizing & preservative effect also, like > pickling in vinegar, but without the vinegar taste. > > I am experimenting with using the acid water for soaking grains, but > interestingly, the ionizer mfg, recommends the alkaline water for > cooking. So, I haven't quite figured out the soaking, cooking part > yet... anyone have any suggestions on that? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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