Warrior Diet question

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

Does Ori mention, in The Warrior Diet, whether is it ever NOT a good

idea to use his diet plan. For example,would it be wise to eat this

way if a person is elderly or suffers from osteoporosis or some other

degenerative disease?

TIA,

Sheila

[Guest guest]

--- In , José Barbosa

> Well, I don't think you will follow this (I won't be angry if you

say

> it is a foolish idea...), but it simply occurred to me while I was

read

> your [afflicted?] message.

Thank you, . It's not foolish, but isn't that just a low

calorie diet? I average 1300 calories a day. I don't think it

would be good for me to go lower. Who knows, maybe I need to go

lower. I've told my husband that at this point it seems like my

only other option would be to starve myself, which, of course, I

would not do, but that is how I'm feeling.

Maybe it would help if I mentioned that I'm 5'7 " . I know some would

say that I need to eat more, but if I eat much more than 1300

calories a day I feel stuffed and yucky, like I'm piling one meal on

top of the other. I feel much better if I wait until my stomache

has completely emptied and I feel hungry again before I eat another

meal. Some have suggested that in order to boost my metabolism I

needed to eat more, which I did, felt horrible, and still didn't

lose weight. I don't know if I buy it, at least not for myself.

For whatever reason, my body just takes its good 'ol time digesting

food. I don't have indigestion, or anything like that, either. I

think there's a lot more to digestion and metabolism that scientists

haven't figured out yet.

Robin

[Guest guest]

Robin,

I don't believe it's about the calories.

Have you considered working with a nutritionist or other practitioner

who could run some tests and determine if something in your body is

out of whack? In my case my gall bladder had been hurting. I've done

lots of cleansing, juicing, fasting, liver flushing, heavy metal detox

and I stressed my body out with so much intense cleansing.

My " prescription " is for a NN diet, with some enzymes and anti-candida

stuff, the experiment of going light on dairy and glutenous grains and

a caution to not be in a hurry. I soak my grains, ferment my own

sauerkraut, make my own bone broths, ghee and humus and go light on

the starchy foods. A month into this diet my gallbladder pain is gone

most of the time and my digestion is feeling better. Have I lost

weight? Not yet, but my nutritionist explained that the body has its

own wisdom in healing. It may be holding onto to fats that contain

toxins (as excess weight) until it's recovered enough to safely

release them. I don't want to autointoxicate myself now through heavy

cleansing so I practice being patient.

I believe that extra weight is a symptom of some imbalance and that

trying to trick the body into losing weight is not smart, effective,

or always safe.

My 2 cents.

Sol

> --- In , José Barbosa

> > Well, I don't think you will follow this (I won't be angry if you

> say

> > it is a foolish idea...), but it simply occurred to me while I was

> read

> > your [afflicted?] message.

>

> Thank you, . It's not foolish, but isn't that just a low

> calorie diet? I average 1300 calories a day. I don't think it

> would be good for me to go lower. Who knows, maybe I need to go

> lower. I've told my husband that at this point it seems like my

> only other option would be to starve myself, which, of course, I

> would not do, but that is how I'm feeling.

>

> Maybe it would help if I mentioned that I'm 5'7 " . I know some would

> say that I need to eat more, but if I eat much more than 1300

> calories a day I feel stuffed and yucky, like I'm piling one meal on

> top of the other. I feel much better if I wait until my stomache

> has completely emptied and I feel hungry again before I eat another

> meal. Some have suggested that in order to boost my metabolism I

> needed to eat more, which I did, felt horrible, and still didn't

> lose weight. I don't know if I buy it, at least not for myself.

> For whatever reason, my body just takes its good 'ol time digesting

> food. I don't have indigestion, or anything like that, either. I

> think there's a lot more to digestion and metabolism that scientists

> haven't figured out yet.

>

> Robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Deanna: Thanks for your information.

>

> >Though I am not really into yoga (I wish I were), I have found,

after

> >searching for this position on Google, that I am often doing it or

a

> >variation for the sake of my varices. Yes I have some varicose

veins

> >on my right leg only, and they sort of disappear when I am in that

> >position.

> >

> >Do you know any other good position for constipation or intestinal

> >gas?

> >

> José ,

>

> Yoga is a wonderful practice that helps all organs and tissues of

the

> body.

I agree and understand it to be so.

In inverted poses like sarvangasana and sirsasana, the veins in

> the legs get a much needed rest, as you have noticed. In _Light on

> Yoga_, by BKS Iyengar, the following asanas in the order given are

> recommended for constipation:

>

> Sirsana and cycle - headstand and variations

> Sarvangasana and cycle - shoulderstand and variations

> All standing poses - these include the twists which can be helpful

to

> get things moving intestinally

> Uttanasana - intense stretch posture

> Paschimotanasana - west intense stretch pose (west being the back

side

> of the body for an east facing yogi)

> Jathara Parivartanasana - an asana in which the abdomen is made to

move

> to and fro

> Nadi Sodhana Pranayama - cleansing of the nadis breathing technique

> (pranayama is literally life-force restraint)

>

> Of course, you should seek the help of a qualified instructor

Yes I think that is the better. When and how did you start yoga? Dis

you do it by yourself?

, or use

> what is available online, in books, or on video. Iyengar yoga is

very

> anatomically and biomechanically correct, ime as a former fitness

> professional and Iyengar instructor. There are contraindications

to

> some of the asanas listed, which is again why you would be best

served

> by someone knowledgeable in yoga who could see you face to face.

An

> instructor should ask beforehand what your health concerns are and

can

> adjust the program for you (if not, find another one). But since

you

> are already doing some sadhana on your own, then I would say all of

the

> yogasanas above would be perfectly suitable for you except

sirsasana

> (especially if you have detached retina or heart problems), unless

you

> have other concerns of which I am unaware.

I am wearing glasses. That is a main concern, isn't it?

>

> http://bksiyengar.com/

>

> http://www.iyengar-yoga.com/faq/

>

> Om Shanti,

> Deanna

>

Om Shanti (although I don't know exactly what that salutation means).

José

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Have you been tested for food allergies? I feel like I have cotton for

brains if i am eating food I am allergic to. I have had the best results

from Great Smokies lab but you do need an DX RX.

Have you been tested for adrenal insufficiency? The need for coffee makes

me wonder about that.

As for weight, I have been about 35 lbs overweight for the last few years.

I didn't do well at all on Atkins. I don't know why. Although some things

improved, I didn't lose weight and I felt terrible. I am not disparaging

Atkins, it just didn't work for me. The Specific Carbohydrate Diet is

something else however. I have lost 25 lbs since January and I haven't even

been strict with it. So you might want to look into that.

Irene

At 08:17 PM 7/10/05, you wrote:

>i feel lost and don't know

>what to do. i'm off junk food 99%, i need coffee in the morning or i

>get nothing done, i'm almost 100 lb overwt, always tired and my brain

>is very slow. i'm always the last person in the room to get a joke

>or understand what is going on and i feel like i comprehend half of

>what people are telling me and remember only a quarter. movies,

>forget it. i have to watch them twice to 'get it'. i'm 50 and

>entering menopause although my periods seem to be getting more

>frequent again now. sigh. i exercise and it helps but i'm not an

>athlete.

[Guest guest]

--- In , Irene Musiol <Irene.M@a...>

wrote:

> ,

>

> Have you been tested for food allergies?

Irene, no, not only because i'm cheap and lazy, but because i really

don't want to know what i'm allergic to. i've given up all junk

food...that was hard enough in and of itself, and that's about as far

as i want to go right now.

I feel like I have cotton for

> brains if i am eating food I am allergic to.

hmmm.

I have had the best results

> from Great Smokies lab but you do need an DX RX.

i should probably do it but i probably won't i hate to say, just

knowing myself.

>

> Have you been tested for adrenal insufficiency? The need for coffee

makes

> me wonder about that.

yes, my wapf friendly doctor says the adrenals are in bad shape.

>

> As for weight, I have been about 35 lbs overweight for the last few

years.

> I didn't do well at all on Atkins.

me neither.

I don't know why. Although some things

> improved, I didn't lose weight and I felt terrible.

so did I.

I am not disparaging

> Atkins,

me neither.

it just didn't work for me.

ditto

The Specific Carbohydrate Diet is

> something else however. I have lost 25 lbs since January and I

haven't even

> been strict with it. So you might want to look into that.

i have a sense what it's about...but i never read it as i didn't

think it applied to me. i should get it and read it.

thanks, Irene. i appreciate you writing.

laura in nj

[Guest guest]

:

People have been talking about Disneyland. So let's have a break,

shall we?

Can I ask you a very silly [albeit very difficult as well] question?

No, not this one, the next.

But you must answer it as quickly as possible.

If you had found the magic lamp, what three things would you ask the

genie?

Actually, you don't need to tell or post your answers. In fact, I

just wanted to know if you (or anyone else for that matter) are able

to think of these three things very quickly and then without later

regrets.

José

> > ,

> >

> > Have you been tested for food allergies?

>

> Irene, no, not only because i'm cheap and lazy, but because i

really

> don't want to know what i'm allergic to. i've given up all junk

> food...that was hard enough in and of itself, and that's about as

far

> as i want to go right now.

>

> I feel like I have cotton for

> > brains if i am eating food I am allergic to.

>

> hmmm.

>

> I have had the best results

> > from Great Smokies lab but you do need an DX RX.

>

> i should probably do it but i probably won't i hate to say, just

> knowing myself.

> >

> > Have you been tested for adrenal insufficiency? The need for

coffee

> makes

> > me wonder about that.

>

> yes, my wapf friendly doctor says the adrenals are in bad shape.

> >

> > As for weight, I have been about 35 lbs overweight for the last

few

> years.

> > I didn't do well at all on Atkins.

>

> me neither.

>

> I don't know why. Although some things

> > improved, I didn't lose weight and I felt terrible.

>

> so did I.

>

> I am not disparaging

> > Atkins,

>

> me neither.

>

> it just didn't work for me.

>

> ditto

>

> The Specific Carbohydrate Diet is

> > something else however. I have lost 25 lbs since January and I

> haven't even

> > been strict with it. So you might want to look into that.

>

> i have a sense what it's about...but i never read it as i didn't

> think it applied to me. i should get it and read it.

>

> thanks, Irene. i appreciate you writing.

>

> laura in nj

[Guest guest]

> Irene,

> >>> Yeah I know. Years ago, when I got my results of my food

allergy

> tests, I was allergic to so many things I cried for two days.

i've heard of people being allergic to almost everything they eat. i

would cry for 2 days too. at least.

so what did you do? did you just start eating other stuff? did you

totally eliminate the foods you were allergic to, undoubtably your

favorite foods and/or the ones you ate the most? did you notice a

difference right away? or did it take time? did you 'backslide' and

try reintroducing, or couldn't help yourself, or eat it anyway cuz

i'm mad as hell and i'm not going stop eating these foods anymore or

something like that?

But it is

> worth looking into when you feel you are ready.

the cotton brain issue sure sounds like reason enough. your brain

sure sounds like it's in a lot better shape than mine.

>

> >>> Are you getting any treatment?

i was. but he's 250 miles away, i went to see him 3 times over 4 or

5 mo., and $1000 later i felt very frustrated like i wasn't getting

anywhere.

You might want to get a copy of " From

> Fatigued to Fantastic " by Teitelbaum. MD

will do. i've heard of it. it's probably one of the few books i

haven't read about fatigue.>

> >

> >>>> It is written specifically for people with Crohn's, Colitis,

IBSand

> other serious bowel diseases,

oh yeah, it's by that elaine gotschall or whatever lady. i used to

hear her on the radio a lot on dr. ronald hoffman's program, Health

Talk.

but there were a couple people on this list

> that used it for less serious bowel issues and food allergy so I

thought

> I'd also give it a try.

interesting. i never read it cuz i thought i didn't need it.

so that's 2 books to read. thanks, Irene.

>

> >laura in nj

[Guest guest]

> :

>

> People have been talking about Disneyland. So let's have a break,

> shall we?

sounds good to me!

>

> Can I ask you a very silly [albeit very difficult as well]

question?

> No, not this one, the next.

>

> But you must answer it as quickly as possible.

>

> If you had found the magic lamp, what three things would you ask

the

> genie?

1. not to be overweight

2. to live in a peaceful world where people still live in harmony

with nature. heaven, i guess.

3. since #2 is not going to happen, enough money to make life

bearable. or really great.

>

> Actually, you don't need to tell or post your answers. In fact, I

> just wanted to know if you (or anyone else for that matter) are

able

> to think of these three things very quickly and then without later

> regrets.

not really...i have regrets already. my first one should have been,

to be at peace and close with God at all times and never sin again.

ever. and i would probably change number 3 to, knowing what and how

much i should eat at all times for optimal health. and i can keep

going...i would almost replace #2 with, to have my old brain back, or

a better one, so i can think and therefore live.

>

laura in nj

[Guest guest]

> > :

> >

> > People have been talking about Disneyland. So let's have a break,

> > shall we?

>

> sounds good to me!

> >

> > Can I ask you a very silly [albeit very difficult as well]

> question?

> > No, not this one, the next.

> >

> > But you must answer it as quickly as possible.

> >

> > If you had found the magic lamp, what three things would you ask

> the

> > genie?

>

> 1. not to be overweight

> 2. to live in a peaceful world where people still live in harmony

> with nature. heaven, i guess.

> 3. since #2 is not going to happen, enough money to make life

> bearable. or really great.

> >

> > Actually, you don't need to tell or post your answers. In fact, I

> > just wanted to know if you (or anyone else for that matter) are

> able

> > to think of these three things very quickly and then without

later

> > regrets.

>

> not really...i have regrets already. my first one should have

been,

> to be at peace and close with God at all times and never sin

again.

> ever. and i would probably change number 3 to, knowing what and how

> much i should eat at all times for optimal health. and i can keep

> going...i would almost replace #2 with, to have my old brain back,

or

> a better one, so i can think and therefore live.

: Thank you very much for your sincere answers. As always. While

I understand that you are a nostalgic person, I really don't think

you need to have your " old brain " back again.

JC

> >

> laura in nj

[Guest guest]

>

> : Thank you very much for your sincere answers. As always. While

> I understand that you are a nostalgic person, I really don't think

> you need to have your " old brain " back again.

>

> JC

JC, thanks for your vote of confidence! however, it's easier somehow

to sit here and type and think about things before, during and after i

type...editing, rereading and then sending. you know? it's easier to

sit here and appear more as how i want to appear rather than how i am!

i hope you have a good day today, jose carlos. it's 7 am here. what

time is it there?>

> > >

> > laura in nj

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > : Thank you very much for your sincere answers. As always.

While

> > I understand that you are a nostalgic person, I really don't

think

> > you need to have your " old brain " back again.

> >

> > JC

>

> JC, thanks for your vote of confidence! however, it's easier

somehow

> to sit here and type and think about things before, during and

after i

> type...editing, rereading and then sending. you know? it's easier

to

> sit here and appear more as how i want to appear rather than how i

am!

>

> i hope you have a good day today, jose carlos. it's 7 am here.

what

> time is it there?>

> > > >

> > > laura in nj

I see, . And do you know what? I think you are " incorrigible " .

(Maybe that is why I like you after all...)

It is 8:40 AM here. A very beautiful sunny morning. Now I must go.

See you later.

Have a good day, too.

José

[Guest guest]

>

> It is 8:40 AM here. A very beautiful sunny morning. Now I must go.

> See you later.

>

> Have a good day, too.

>

> José

so, you're an hour to the east of us, and way south!!

it's funny how the time of day can be about the same but the season the

opposite.

what is the winter weather like where you are these days?

laura

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> > It is 8:40 AM here. A very beautiful sunny morning. Now I must

go.

> > See you later.

> >

> > Have a good day, too.

> >

> > José

>

> so, you're an hour to the east of us, and way south!!

>

> it's funny how the time of day can be about the same but the season

the

> opposite.

>

> what is the winter weather like where you are these days?

>

> laura

Well, it is usually warm in the daytime, very sunny, dry, and blue

skies. It can get chilly as soon as night falls, and the mornings are

also usually foggy and chilly. If it rains or drizzles, then it feels

uncomfortably cold, even if the temperature doesn't sink below 10

Celsius (about 50 F). Up in the mountains it can be freezing, and

frost isn't uncommon. But here at the seaside we never get frost, let

alone snow. This is it. And what about your summertime? When I was

once in New York in the summertime (late August, I think) it was

never really hot, at least never so hot as our summers. I suppose New

Jersey has the same climate as New York, no?

JC

[Guest guest]

Well I was very desperate at the time. I was single and terrified of losing

my job so I just went ofr it. I pretty much eliminated everything I was

allergic to. That took a week or two. Then the first month was a

rollercoaster of feeling not too bad to absolute hell. Withdrawal I

suppose. At that point things calmed down. I don't really remember right

now how long it took to really feel better. It was a gradual thing.

BTW you can have withdrawal from junk food too. That stuff can be pretty

addictive.

Irene

At 03:42 AM 7/12/05, you wrote:

>so what did you do? did you just start eating other stuff? did you

>totally eliminate the foods you were allergic to, undoubtably your

>favorite foods and/or the ones you ate the most? did you notice a

>difference right away? or did it take time? did you 'backslide' and

>try reintroducing, or couldn't help yourself, or eat it anyway cuz

>i'm mad as hell and i'm not going stop eating these foods anymore or

>something like that?

[Guest guest]

> i'm sorry, no offense intended, i know you are what you eat, but the

> whole consciousness thing?

, you are a Christian IIRC. Do you understand the whole

consciousness thing of the communion wafer? The ritual drinking of

holy wine? Cow's milk is also a sacred food--it is the manifestation

of maternal love--and should IMO be drunk with that awareness. Too

much of even a good thing is a poison and what does a glut of maternal

love create? It's called smothering, right? A sweet, heavy blanket

that descends and inhibits the child from a natural interaction with

the world.

> i was going to ask if kapha means fat...but slimy? ewww...how can a

> person be slimy?

Do you know that milk is a mucosal secretion?

B.

/my work here is done

[Guest guest]

>

> > i'm sorry, no offense intended, i know you are what you eat, but

the

> > whole consciousness thing?

>

> , you are a Christian IIRC. Do you understand the whole

> consciousness thing of the communion wafer? The ritual drinking of

> holy wine? Cow's milk is also a sacred food--it is the

manifestation

> of maternal love--and should IMO be drunk with that awareness. Too

> much of even a good thing is a poison and what does a glut of

maternal

> love create? It's called smothering, right? A sweet, heavy blanket

> that descends and inhibits the child from a natural interaction with

> the world.

>

> > i was going to ask if kapha means fat...but slimy? ewww...how

can a

> > person be slimy?

>

> Do you know that milk is a mucosal secretion?

> B.

>

> /my work here is done

Oh no, , I hope your work isn't done yet. I find the

connections between foods and mental or psychological states very

interesting. Can you go on, please?

I agree that (too) much of something (anything) good becomes poison,

whereas a little bit of poison may be beneficial at times. And that

everyone has a certain threshold, in other words, too much for a

certain person may not be enough for another. A man's meat is ...

Do you find that fermented dairy has the same effects as milk? And

what would you say of a very high comsuption of say meat, fruit and

grains? What could the most obvious results for these dieters in

terms of psychological responses? Are there foods that can be said to

be neutral, i.e. they don't produce any visible behaviour?

I hope I have formulated the right questions. I see you are a very

precise person.

Thanks for your attention.

José

[Guest guest]

>

> Well, it is usually warm in the daytime, very sunny, dry, and blue

> skies. It can get chilly as soon as night falls, and the mornings are

> also usually foggy and chilly. If it rains or drizzles, then it feels

> uncomfortably cold, even if the temperature doesn't sink below 10

> Celsius (about 50 F). Up in the mountains it can be freezing, and

> frost isn't uncommon. But here at the seaside we never get frost, let

> alone snow. This is it. And what about your summertime? When I was

> once in New York in the summertime (late August, I think) it was

> never really hot, at least never so hot as our summers. I suppose New

> Jersey has the same climate as New York, no?

>

> JC

well, JC, i hate summer for the most part so i'm probably not the one

to ask! to me they are almost unbearable...i really can't stand

weather over 70 degrees fahrenheit. i LOVE the cold and look forward

to every winter...and am usually disappointed! i need to move to

points north, where the summers are cooler and the winters colder with

more snow, ice, etc.

to answer your question, i'm surprised you found august in NY to be not

really hot; maybe you picked a cooler time to come, as the end of

august can get some cooler days. NJ is pretty much like NY (i presume

you mean the city...the state is cooler than the city, the city being

the southeast corner of the state and most of the state being

mountainous.)

laura in nj

[Guest guest]

--- In , Irene Musiol <Irene.M@a...>

wrote:

> Well I was very desperate at the time. I was single and terrified

of losing

> my job so I just went ofr it. I pretty much eliminated everything I

was

> allergic to. That took a week or two. Then the first month was a

> rollercoaster of feeling not too bad to absolute hell. Withdrawal I

> suppose. At that point things calmed down. I don't really remember

right

> now how long it took to really feel better. It was a gradual thing.

>

> BTW you can have withdrawal from junk food too. That stuff can be

pretty

> addictive.

absolutely!! and it was.

i gotta think about this...if you would like to share more about what

you were allergic to and what you switched to instead...

but it sounds like it really has made a difference...you're really

glad you did it? do you miss what you gave up? how long has it

been? and has it REALLY made a big difference?

very, very interesting.

thanks, Irene.

laura

[Guest guest]

>

> > i'm sorry, no offense intended, i know you are what you eat, but

the

> > whole consciousness thing?

>

> , you are a Christian IIRC. Do you understand the whole

> consciousness thing of the communion wafer? The ritual drinking of

> holy wine?

of course.

Cow's milk is also a sacred food--

it's food...how can you differentiate between 'sacred' food and , uh,

non-sacred? or regular? food

it is the manifestation

> of maternal love--and should IMO be drunk with that awareness.

in theory, shouldn't we be doing everything with awareness? i'm NOT

trying to be a smart aleck.

Too

> much of even a good thing is a poison

of course...even water.

but what about the people who lose wt. just consuming raw dairy and

only raw dairy?

and what does a glut of maternal

> love create? It's called smothering, right?

i see it more as a false kind of love; a smothering kind of love is

not really love; it's selfish love. true love is thinking of the

benefit of the other...smothering love i think, thinks of the self.

it's just two different ways of looking at it, that's all.

A sweet, heavy blanket

> that descends and inhibits the child from a natural interaction with

> the world.

it's tough being a mom and striking that balance. i struggle with it

every day. we have a 14 year old son...and it's like fishing. we

cast him out for a spell...then we reel him back in again. we want

him to have friends and activities and healthy relationships with

people...but we want to keep a close eye to keep him from going the

wrong way. and bathe him in prayer of course. i find it to be

really difficult. i have a tendency to smother i think. but i

digress.

>

> > i was going to ask if kapha means fat...but slimy? ewww...how

can a

> > person be slimy?

>

> Do you know that milk is a mucosal secretion?

yes. i didn't know you meant it that way. it just didn't make sense

to me, that's all.

> B.

>

> /my work here is done

so you're writing me off? just like that? :-)

[Guest guest]

>

> I've never heard the doulbe chin relation.Do you mean it'srelated to

one's thyroid? How did you find this out?

Phil,

It's a diagnostic sign in Ayurvedic medicine. I found out in a

seminar I took for health-care providers.

I just saw your email, please forgive my tardy reply.

B.