which milk/cream would you choose - help!

[Guest guest]

Quoting Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...>:

> they made a very important decision that hurts them financially, but is a

> tremendous gift to consumers - they decided NOT to sell to the organic

> market because that means their milk would be pasteurized. Instead they

> are

> selling to the conventional market and getting paid considerably less

> than

> they would if they sold to the organic market. They simply don't want

> such a nourishing product to be damaged by pasteurization.

I'm not following. They can sell raw milk to the conventional market, but

not to the organic market?

--

Berg

bberg@...

[Guest guest]

>>>I'm not following. They can sell raw milk to the conventional market, but

not to the organic market?

---->oops. no that's not the whole story. IF they sell to the organic

market, they'd have to sign an exclusivity contract, which means they

couldn't sell it to anyone else raw. the organic market around these parts,

i believe, is horizon organics. which is often produced in maine, shipped to

VT (i think) for processing, then shipped back here under the horizon label.

they couldn't sell to local retail stores if they did that. raw milk can

legally be sold in retail stores here. i think this farm supplies local

small groceries or something. i don't live in their area, but the farms

around here sell raw milk and cream mostly to the natural foods markets.

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

> 100% grass-fed, but am wondering if the excessive hormones issue with

> holsteins might make it less desirable than getting partially grain-fed

> jersey milk...? not to mention the difference in butterfat content....

>

>

> ...which would you choose, and why?

Where does the excessive hormones come from?? - I think it's a fallacy that

ALL Holsteins make inferior milk. I'm sure there are en-jerseys out

there too.

I would put more weight behind grass-fed as opposed to butterfat content.

You can always buy cream from the farmer if you think you need more.

We get our raw milk from a mixed herd, grass-fed, organic farmer.

I would go with farmer #2.

[Guest guest]

>>>Where does the excessive hormones come from?? - I think it's a fallacy

that

ALL Holsteins make inferior milk. I'm sure there are en-jerseys out

there too.

---->i think it may depend on the herd. apparently these particular

holsteins are not huge like typical holsteins, and don't have massive udders

hanging to the ground. so they don't appear to be the " pituitary freaks "

that sally speaks of. but they could well descend from a line bred for

production, with a less than desirable hormone level. i really don't know.

but all the jersey's i've seen are considerably smaller than holsteins, but

maybe on factory farms out west there are some franken-jerseys too...?

>>>>I would put more weight behind grass-fed as opposed to butterfat

content.

You can always buy cream from the farmer if you think you need more.

---->i was thinking of doing that if we go with the holsteins.

>>>I would go with farmer #2.

----->ok, thanks for your thoughts!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

“The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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