Re: Re: Natural Anti-depressant called Serenity -GERD

[Guest guest]

Bee,

Yeah I had an scope and I don't have a hiatus hernia. My mother does, so I

know that they can cause GERD. I am just searching for a solution.

The medicine doesn't work for me. . .

Sheryl

Bee <beewilder@...> wrote:

Hi - are you familiar with haitus hernia which can be one cause of

GERD?

Bee

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I heard about this product called Serenity that is suppose to be

a

> natural anti-depressant and a mood stabilzer. I was wondering if

any

> of you've heard of it or had any thoughts

> >

> > Here is the link to their site:

> >

> > http://www.findserenitynow.com/

> >

> > Thanks, all comments are welcome and muchly appreciated.

> >

> > Sheryl

> >

> >

> >

> > Sheryl Illustrations

> > http://dovedesignsrus.com

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

>Bee,

>

>Yeah I had an scope and I don't have a hiatus hernia. My mother does, so I

know that they can cause GERD. I am just searching for a solution.

>

>The medicine doesn't work for me. . .

>

>Sheryl

The book " Why stomach acid is good for you " (by a Northwest doc, as it turns

out, Dr. ) does talk about GERD. There are lots of causes ... low stomach

acid being one of them. I'd put food allergies up there too.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

Oh Gosh Heidi,

I think you are so right. I had my allergies tested at a naturopath. I have

alleviated grains, dairy (including goat), soy, fruits, a lot of nuts,

chocolate, coffee. Most people say " So what is left/ "

Well just veggies and some kinds of meat. I do cheat. . .I think if I could just

stick with it for a month or two I would might see improvement. But like this

weekend. We went out for dinner on Friday night with friends. Chinese food. We

did it family style. Soy sauce always gives me heartburn.

Veggies and meat are not very appetizing in the morning.

I am on the thin side so I get hungry all the time.

I am currently trying Primal Defense and also taking another probiotic too. Been

doing this only a short time. Hope to see some results soon.

About 10 years ago I had to be put on intravenous antibiotics from a surgery

that went a little wrong. I just realized a couple of weeks ago, that this may

have been the point that started all my stomach problems. Didn't get heartburn

then. . .but a lot of indigestion (burping, stomach pain) and constipation. So I

am hoping that these larger amounts of probiotics may help. I tried just the

regular dose, but no effect. I think the intravenous antibiotics may have killed

off everything.

Thanks for the suggestion Heidi. . I will try to really be good about the things

I am not suppose to eat. .

Sheryl

Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote:

>Bee,

>

>Yeah I had an scope and I don't have a hiatus hernia. My mother does, so I know

that they can cause GERD. I am just searching for a solution.

>

>The medicine doesn't work for me. . .

>

>Sheryl

The book " Why stomach acid is good for you " (by a Northwest doc, as it turns

out, Dr. ) does talk about GERD. There are lots of causes ... low stomach

acid being one of them. I'd put food allergies up there too.

-- Heidi

Sheryl Illustrations

http://dovedesignsrus.com

[Guest guest]

>Veggies and meat are not very appetizing in the morning.

Well, you see that is why some of us do the Warrior Diet. Then you

only have to worry about the evening! If you can eat potatoes

though, hash browns are great in the morning. Can you have

eggs?

>I am on the thin side so I get hungry all the time.

Likely you need to eat more. Granted it can be difficult --

most of the difficulty I've found is cultural. Everyone around

you is likely snacking on Cheetos or some such. Jerky is

basically my standby ... I don't NEED food much during the

day any more but sometimes I get stressed, and that makes

me hungry, so jerky works. So do raw almonds ... I don't

know which nuts you can have. I also make my own " chocolates "

out of melted coconut oil and coconut -- you could probably

make some varient without cocoa " White chocolate " .

If you are gluten intolerant, that tends to CREATE other

allergies though. Those OTHER allergies often go away,

as they are created by a different mechanism. Gluten is

a special case though (and casein might be). Fruit is

very rarely an allergen (and if it is, it is just SOME fruits)

but some folks lack the enzyme to break down fructose.

This too, may heal with time, or you can take enzymes if

that is the problem, or ferment the fruit ( " kefir beer " ).

>I am currently trying Primal Defense and also taking another probiotic too.

Been doing this only a short time. Hope to see some results soon.

I haven't tried PD. It is a little controversial among the anti-gluten crowd

because it has wheat grass and barley grass juice

in it. Likely it is digested enough that most

folks who are gluten-sensitive don't react to it, and

the good bacteria would be helpful anyway.

However, probiotics helped me a LOT when I was

still eating gluten. They cured my gut problems

totally. They didn't cure my " brain fog " or skin

problems.

If your gut gets healed though, chances are a lot

of the " allergies " will go away. Some of the allergic

responses are the result of bad digestion (lack of

enzymes) and leaky gut. Others are based on genes.

The genetic ones don't go away, but it is unlikely

that you have genes that prevent you from eating

ALL those foods. Some foods are just slightly toxic

and no one should be eating them (I'd put soy and wheat

in that category, and non-soaked corn (but masa seems ok)).

>About 10 years ago I had to be put on intravenous antibiotics from a surgery

that went a little wrong. I just realized a couple of weeks ago, that this may

have been the point that started all my stomach problems. Didn't get heartburn

then. . .but a lot of indigestion (burping, stomach pain) and constipation. So I

am hoping that these larger amounts of probiotics may help. I tried just the

regular dose, but no effect. I think the intravenous antibiotics may have killed

off everything.

Probably did. I started having the worst problems after being

on antibiotics, and my son did too. Last bout of antibiotics

though he got kefir constantly, and did ok.

I think the best long-term solution though,

is to learn to cook probiotically. The Koreans

have it right ... find some fermented food you just LOVE

and eat it with every meal.

My own theory is that bacteria you grow in your home

also harbor bacteriophages. The phages seem very sensitive

to temp etc. and I'm not sure they would survive in

a powder (mine seem to survive a week in the fridge,

in kefir whey). If you grow the bacteria in YOUR house,

then they have properties to fight the bacteria that

are local to YOU.

>Thanks for the suggestion Heidi. . I will try to really be good about the

things I am not suppose to eat. .

Good luck! My solution is to have a " menu " of

stuff I just LOVE and keep that around. Don't think

of what you can't have, think of what you really desire.

Good soups are high on my list, along with rare steak,

" lettuce burgers " with lots of sweet onions, and fried

green tomatoes! Also avacado salsa and fried pork

skins and jerky, and slightly fried liver smothered

in onions.

-- Heidi

[Guest guest]

,

That is good to know. I am going to try that tomorrow. I wouldn't mind mixing

veggies and egg for breakfast. . .

Thanks So Much

Sheryl

kroserob <karenr@...> wrote:

Sheryl,

I have trouble facing meat/veggies in the morning too.. I wonder why

morning hunger can be so selective.

Are you allergic to eggs? You might try just yolks, since those are

usually better tolerated than whites, for those who are sensitive to

eggs.

-

--- In , Sheryl

wrote:

>

> Oh Gosh Heidi,

>

> I think you are so right. I had my allergies tested at a

naturopath. I have alleviated grains, dairy (including goat), soy,

fruits, a lot of nuts, chocolate, coffee. Most people say " So what is

left/ "

>

> Well just veggies and some kinds of meat. I do cheat. . .I think if

I could just stick with it for a month or two I would might see

improvement. But like this weekend. We went out for dinner on Friday

night with friends. Chinese food. We did it family style. Soy sauce

always gives me heartburn.

>

> Veggies and meat are not very appetizing in the morning.

[Guest guest]

Heidi,

The information you have given me is so valueable.

Since I am new to the group I have never heard of the Warrior Diet. I will have

to go out and get more info.

You are right about the available for quick snacks making it hard for me to eat

what I should. Eating healthy definitely takes more thought and time.

When I was younger I could go all day without eating and feel fine at night. I

seem to need food all the time, I need to eat every couple of hours.

Plant based enzymes is another thing I have started to take. Just started

those a couple of days ago too. The bottle says twice daily. So I take them in

the morning and evening meal.

Wow I never thought of the wheat grass in the PD as being bad. Good point. I

will have to notice if I get symptoms in the A.M. worse.

I hope you are right about getting my gut healed and then having everything go

back to a more normal life.

Cooking probiatocally. I am not sure what that means. I can't have dairy. .

..You mean fermented veggeis?

Your theory that if I grow the bacteria in my house, they will have properties

to fight the bacteria that is local to me is a really great concept. It makes

so much sense, but if I can't eat dairy?

The idea of actually writing down a menu of things I love is also another really

good idea. I think focusing on the positive is of great value.

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with me it has really great

Sheryl

Sheryl Illustrations

http://dovedesignsrus.com

[Guest guest]

Now soup is a good Idea.

Sheryl

Daphne Blumenthal <biophile410@...> wrote:

How about broth based soup? Appearently many cultures eat

soup for breakfast. I recently made a soup of chicken both,

russet potatos, thinly sliced leeks (3), garlic, fresh marjoram,

and some lime. Tastes good for days. I eat it with asagio

cheese. Makes a delicious breakfast.

> >

> > Oh Gosh Heidi,

> >

> > I think you are so right. I had my allergies tested at a

> naturopath. I have alleviated grains, dairy (including goat), soy,

> fruits, a lot of nuts, chocolate, coffee. Most people say " So what

is

> left/ "

> >

> > Well just veggies and some kinds of meat. I do cheat. . .I

think if

> I could just stick with it for a month or two I would might see

> improvement. But like this weekend. We went out for dinner on

Friday

> night with friends. Chinese food. We did it family style. Soy

sauce

> always gives me heartburn.

> >

> > Veggies and meat are not very appetizing in the morning.

[Guest guest]

>Cooking probiatocally. I am not sure what that means. I can't have dairy. .

..You mean fermented veggeis?

Sandor Katz has a book called " wild fermentation " . He ferments EVERYTHING.

Really -- dairy is easy, but PD is grown on wheat grass (vegie) and the Koreans

don't use dairy either (neither does most of Asia). There are LOTS of ways to

ferment stuff. Kefir beer and kimchi are my favorites, but there is a whole

world beyond that. Kefir is easy though -- some folks use the grains to ferment

coconut milk, which is an easy way to do things. Fermented veggies are also

easy, and cheap and tasty.

>Your theory that if I grow the bacteria in my house, they will have properties

to fight the bacteria that is local to me is a really great concept. It makes

so much sense, but if I can't eat dairy?

Like I said, ferment something else. I use the kefir grains to ferment juice --

it makes a kind of low-alcohol beer, which I appreciate since I can't have beer.

But there are loads of possibilities, you can ferment just about any food.

(Awhile back someone posted a bit about how the Africans ferment caterpillars

.... ).

>The idea of actually writing down a menu of things I love is also another

really good idea. I think focusing on the positive is of great value.

Thanks!

>Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with me it has really great

>Sheryl

This group is great. Just ask and people will gladly give their opinions :-)

-- Heidi