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>>>WHAT is pufa?

-------->Poly Unsaturated Fatty Acid. it's basically oils like fish and flax

oil, and vegetable oils, which are vulnerable to oxidation by heat, light

and oxygen. they tend to oxidize (causing free radicals) much more easily

than monounsaturated fats and much, much more so that saturated fats.

>>>i use coconut oil. does that mean i still need palm oil/cod liver oil or

what?

---->you may or may not, depending on your own pesonal needs. coconut oil is

highly saturated so you don't really need vitamin E to protect yourself from

oxidized coconut oil, since it's so stable. palm oil is a good source of

vitamin e and carotenoids apparently, so if you want to add those to your

diet, try palm oil. cod liver oil is typically taken for it's vitamin A and

D content, although it contains omega 3 (PUFAs) as well. if you're not

eating a lot of liver, eggs and fish eggs then it's probably a good idea to

take some CLO, imo. also if you have depressed thyroid, or are prone to

infections, or want to prevent cancer, or to to support eye health, then CLO

is a good thing to take. vitamin A has sooooo many functions in the body, as

well as vit D, and the typical american diet is probaby quite deficient in

both of these, so as a rule of thumb, it's probably a good idea to take CLO.

now, if you take CLO, then it's a good idea to take vitamin E since CLO is

high in PUFAs which are prone to oxidation. so take wheat germ oil for

vitamin E. LOL OR, palm oil. or Unique E, which is supposed to contain the

full complex vitamin E.

personally, i think taking a mix of antioxidants is a good idea for everyone

really,considering the amount of stress and environmental pollutants many of

us face in our daily lives. i take acerola powder (good source of vit. c),

wheatgerm oil (for the vit. E) lipoic acid (the " universal " antioxidant) and

whey or milk for the glutathione precursors. these four work together along

with co-q10 to protect the body from free radical damage. other antioxidants

do as well, but i *think* this is the main network that acts to reduce free

radical damage. i would take co-q10 daily if i could afford it, but that

stuff's darn expensive. i'm going to just try to eat heart often. although i

don't know if the co-q10 content is depleted by freezing.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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Hi Suze,

You said you take whey or milk for the glutathione precursors.

Do you mean sweet whey or whey protein?

If you take whey protein which one? Do you have a good source?

The best

marghe

RE: Re: oils

>>>WHAT is pufa?

-------->Poly Unsaturated Fatty Acid. it's basically oils like fish and flax

oil, and vegetable oils, which are vulnerable to oxidation by heat, light

and oxygen. they tend to oxidize (causing free radicals) much more easily

than monounsaturated fats and much, much more so that saturated fats.

>>>i use coconut oil. does that mean i still need palm oil/cod liver oil or

what?

---->you may or may not, depending on your own pesonal needs. coconut oil is

highly saturated so you don't really need vitamin E to protect yourself from

oxidized coconut oil, since it's so stable. palm oil is a good source of

vitamin e and carotenoids apparently, so if you want to add those to your

diet, try palm oil. cod liver oil is typically taken for it's vitamin A and

D content, although it contains omega 3 (PUFAs) as well. if you're not

eating a lot of liver, eggs and fish eggs then it's probably a good idea to

take some CLO, imo. also if you have depressed thyroid, or are prone to

infections, or want to prevent cancer, or to to support eye health, then CLO

is a good thing to take. vitamin A has sooooo many functions in the body, as

well as vit D, and the typical american diet is probaby quite deficient in

both of these, so as a rule of thumb, it's probably a good idea to take CLO.

now, if you take CLO, then it's a good idea to take vitamin E since CLO is

high in PUFAs which are prone to oxidation. so take wheat germ oil for

vitamin E. LOL OR, palm oil. or Unique E, which is supposed to contain the

full complex vitamin E.

personally, i think taking a mix of antioxidants is a good idea for everyone

really,considering the amount of stress and environmental pollutants many of

us face in our daily lives. i take acerola powder (good source of vit. c),

wheatgerm oil (for the vit. E) lipoic acid (the " universal " antioxidant) and

whey or milk for the glutathione precursors. these four work together along

with co-q10 to protect the body from free radical damage. other antioxidants

do as well, but i *think* this is the main network that acts to reduce free

radical damage. i would take co-q10 daily if i could afford it, but that

stuff's darn expensive. i'm going to just try to eat heart often. although i

don't know if the co-q10 content is depleted by freezing.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

< http://www.thincs.org>

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I've also read that the cholesterol is a lot of hype. I've also heard that

women usually have a higher level & ink it has much to do about selling drugs

and scaring people. My mother has had high levels for yrs. with out any heart

problems at all and she's 87!

My Dr, an MD and PHD mycologist, oreders pharm grade fish oil for

everyone, and really wanted me to eat butter-something about it having a

cancer protective effect-I had not had any butter for 35 years, I have

to admitt it tastes good. He also pushes olive, and flaxseed. He says

the hoopla about cholesterol is just Pharm Co. trying to sell drugs-that

you need cholesterol to repair your brain-He believes we have so much

senility because of cutting cholesterol

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Yes, in recent years, the medical community has lowered the range for

what is considered " high " for cholesterol values. In addition to that,

there is a new push to control moderate cholesterol levels with

medication. Many drs do not feel that there is enough of a risk to

justify putting elderly women on drugs. It used to be considered

normal for an older woman to develop slightly higher chol. readings as

she ages. Now the younger mds are trained to push the drugs.

It happened to my mom too, she had slightly elevated readings at the

drs office, so she bought a cuff to check at home, and it was fine at

home. Still, everytime she goes in the dr gives her a script for the

drugs, and everytime up to now mom throws it away. I am not too happy

with the doc, but then it is not my doc. Mom also looked up the drug

in the PDR and read what it said, and she said it is addicting- you

can't just stop taking it, you have to do a gradual withdrawl. She

was outraged about that- it is not a benign substance. Might be good

for some people, but she is still in what used to be considered the

normal range for a woman her age (80).

>

>

> I've also read that the cholesterol is a lot of hype. I've also

heard that women usually have a higher level & ink it has much to do

about selling drugs and scaring people. My mother has had high levels

for yrs. with out any heart problems at all and she's 87!

>

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My Doc says the same thing. Butter and oils like olive oil are also suppposed to

be helpful for adrenal fatigue. The latter is referred to, I believe, Dr.

's book and web site, Adrenal Faituge.

Sam

>He says

> the hoopla about cholesterol is just Pharm Co. trying to

> sell drugs-that

> you need cholesterol to repair your brain-He believes we

> have so much

> senility because of cutting cholesterol

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I avoid animal fats..i.e. cut as much fat off meat as I can, but I've

been eating butterfat for years and years and my cholesterol profile,

that my doctor takes, although I think it's silly since I have low

blood pressure, and have so many other obvious problems he ignores,

anyway, my lipid profile is always 'ideal', his words, not mine....yet

he keeps checking it...I think because they have so many 'weapons'

against high cholesterol, i.e. cholesterol lowering drugs that you then

need to take forever...instead of advising you to simply eat

differently.

>

> My Doc says the same thing. Butter and oils like olive oil are also

suppposed to be helpful for adrenal fatigue. The latter is referred to,

I believe, Dr. 's book and web site, Adrenal Faituge.

> Sam

>

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