Guest guest Posted September 6, 2003 Report Share Posted September 6, 2003 Quoting Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...>: > arguably the best book i ever read (NAPD aside) is jonathan kozol's > " " Amazing Grace: The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation. " > it will change the way you see the world, especially in the case of > people who don't really think racism is still much of a force in > america. >>>Can you give a short version of the argument? ----->it's not so much an " argument " as it is a documentary of the lives of some children in a south bronx neighborhood, who live in the largest racially segregated enclave in america. it's been a long time since i read it but IIRC, the theme of race, poverty and segregation are primary, and kozol interviews a lot of kids, their moms, other people in the neighborhood, and chronicals such things as the predominance of toxic waste dumps in such areas (which result in illnesses for many children), the children's experiences in the schools, crime, death, and all the gov't programs and institutions that are supposedly helping the kids survive in their community, many of whom don't. i'm pretty sure that the vast majority of americans who read it would be shocked that this is *america*...that there are american children actually living under such conditions by no choice of their own of course, yet show such remarkable resiliance and courage. so, i think the book's value lies in the documentary of these children's lives and in the children's own words about their lives, not in the author's politics. here's a bit more about it: ---------------------- http://www.albany.edu/writers-inst/kozol.html In 1993, Kozol returned to one of the most racially isolated and impoverished neighborhoods in the United States -- the South Bronx of New York. Two years of conversations with the children, priests and parents who befriended him led to the writing of Amazing Grace: The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation, which was published in October 1995. Amazing Grace is a gently written narrative work that quietly explores the meditations and reflections of some very young black and Hispanic children who, although they live in one of the most violent, diseased communities in the developed world, retain a soaring spiritual transcendence. In a widely quoted speech, delivered June of 1995 before 2000 of the nation's publishers, Mr. Kozol said, " I believe the questions that we should be asking about justice and injustice in America are not chiefly programmatic, technical or scientific. They are theological. But I disagree with those who think we should be asking questions of theology primarily to those who live in poverty. I think we need to ask these questions of ourselves. " ---------- Kozol has said, " Of all my books, Amazing Grace means the most to me. It took the most out of me and was hardest to write, because it was the hardest to live through those experiences. I felt it would initially be seen as discouraging but, ultimately, sensitive readers would see the resilient and transcendent qualities of children and some mothers in the book-that it would be seen as a book about the elegant theology of children. That's what happened finally. The most moving comments about it also pointed to its moral and religious texture. " http://myhero.com/hero.asp?hero=jkozol ---------- excerpts: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Third_World_US/AmazingGrace_Kozol.html The 600,000 people who live [in the South Bronx of New York City] and the 430,000 people who live in Washington Heights and Harlem, which are separated from the South Bronx by a narrow river, make up one of the largest racially segregated concentrations of poor people in our nation. What is it like for children to grow up here? What do they think the world has done to them? Do they believe that they are being shunned or hidden by society? If so, do they think that they deserve this? What is it that enables some of them to pray? When they pray, what do they say to God? http://www.spinninglobe.net/amazinggrace.htm " I look at my notes as the plane crosses Connecticut. I'm looking forward to getting home and sitting at my desk and trying to make sense of everything I've learned. But I don't really think I will make sense of anything and I don't expect that I'll be able to construct a little list of " answers " and " solutions, " as my editor would like. I have done this many times before; so have dozens of other writers; so have hundreds of committees and foundations and commissions. The time for lists like that now seems long past. Will the people Reverend Grover called " the principalities and powers " look into their hearts one day in church or synagogue and feel the grace of God and, as he put it, " be transformed " ? Will they become ashamed of what they've done, or what they have accepted? Will they decide they do not need to quarantine the outcasts of their ingenuity and will they then use all their wisdom and their skills to build a new society and new economy in which no human being will be superfluous? I wish I could believe that, but I don't think it is likely. I think it is more likely that they'll write more stories about " Hope Within the Ashes " and then pile on more ashes and then change the subject to the opening of the ballet or a review of a new restaurant. And the children of disappointment will keep dying. I think that Mrs. Washington is right to view the years before us with foreboding. I have never lived through a time as cold as this in the United States. Many men and women who work in the Bronx believe that it is going to get worse. I don't know what can change this. " Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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