Re: Fragrant Quotes: Baudelaire Fleurs du Mal many translations

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> I found this link http://fleursdumal.org/poem/103

>

> with many different translations of this poem :)and other

> Fleurs du mal poems

> A good way for me to learn interesting perfume English

>

> blessings to all

>

> XXX

> 000

>

>

! I love that Web site -- it's one where I like to go often.

Yes, it amazes me how many ways there are to translate a passage. I

keep running into that while stumbling my way through trying to

translate some of Edmond Roudnitska's work. And also while reading

Baudelaire. I love to get the books where the French and the English

translation are printed side-by-side. It's fascinating to see how

people have done it so that it tries to faithfully capture the meaning

while still rhyming. What an art.

Here are two more short passages that I love:

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Over your flesh perfume drifts

Like incense 'round a censor,

Tantalizing dispenser

Of evening's ardent gifts.

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Many a flower unburdens with regret

Its perfume sweet like a secret;

In profoundly empty solitude to sit.

Cheers!

Andrine

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Andrine, I'm too a doble translated books addict, (like my mother

who was pretty good in English, she used to say that it is the

quickest and funniest way to expand vocabulary :-)

from this lovely website

on

my Baudelaire quote is Le Flacon

http://fleursdumal.org/poem/143

Le Flacon

so keen some fragrances, they freely pass

all barriers. they would pierce a wall of glass.

unlatch a coffer from the Orient

whose creaking hinge will scarcely grant consent,

or cupboard in an empty house, where murk,

sharp smells and cobwebs of a century lurk,

thou'lt find perhaps a flask that holds a host

of memories, free perchance a living ghost.

crushed in the gloom a thousand keepsakes lay

like coffined larvae there, which, quivering, grey,

released at last arise on soaring wing,

rose-flushed or azure, golden, glittering,

and swirling memories mount, to thrill and tease

our closing eyes; we reel in murk, as these

grapple amain and hurl the quailing soul

down to a Pit where human odours roll

and fell it on the brink that waits for all,

where, bursting, Lazarus-like, its rotted pall,

stirs and awakes the spectral visage of

a charming, fusty, weird, forgotten love.

so when Oblivion blots my memory dim,

and in a corner of a cupboard grim

I like cast off, a sorry flask and old,

crackled and dusty, viscous, green with mould,

I'll be thy coffin, lovely pestilence!

I'll prove thy power and thy virulence,

dear poison brewed by angels! dulcet fire

I've drunk, my life, my death, my heart's desire!

— Piaget Shanks, Flowers of Evil (New York: Ives Washburn, 1931)

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, Andrine, anyone interested - I think it's time the Files had a

section on Perfume Poetry. Could someone volunteer to gather all the

recent posts and look back in the archives for more? That person could

upload the file and be in charge of keeping it updated.

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Anya

Anya's Garden http://AnyasGarden.com - perfumes, aromatics, classes,

consultation

Natural Perfumers Guild + blog with daily updates

1500+ member Natural Perfumery group -

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> , Andrine, anyone interested - I think it's time the Files had

a

> section on Perfume Poetry. Could someone volunteer to gather all the

> recent posts and look back in the archives for more? That person

could

> upload the file and be in charge of keeping it updated.

maybe we could be some 2-3-4 people, who could work together and turn

and turn ?

I come back from Perpignan (without easy internet access) augiust 19,

could not do it before, but would be interested as it would help me to

improve my English

XXX

OOO

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>

> , Andrine, anyone interested - I think it's time the Files had a

> section on Perfume Poetry. Could someone volunteer to gather all the

> recent posts and look back in the archives for more? That person could

> upload the file and be in charge of keeping it updated.

>

Hi Anya, ,

I was going to step up and say yes, I'll do this, I'm on it... Then I

saw 's response about it helping her with her English. I don't

want to step on any toes or get in the way of your English work,

, so unless Anya would prefer that we get this started sooner

than the 19th, I'll let you decide how much of it you would like to do

and I can take the rest of it if you like -- whenever you want me to,

or if you want me to. How does that sound?

Cheers!

Andrine

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Andrine Olson-Kirschenman wrote:

> Hi Anya, ,

>

> I was going to step up and say yes, I'll do this, I'm on it... Then I

> saw 's response about it helping her with her English. I don't

> want to step on any toes or get in the way of your English work,

> , so unless Anya would prefer that we get this started sooner

> than the 19th, I'll let you decide how much of it you would like to do

> and I can take the rest of it if you like -- whenever you want me to,

> or if you want me to. How does that sound?

>

> Cheers!

> Andrine

>

I just saw 's latest response - and the more the merrier! You can

work behind the scenes, maybe divvy up the years for the search, etc.

Start whenever, it's all open.

--

Anya

Anya's Garden http://AnyasGarden.com - perfumes, aromatics, classes,

consultation

Natural Perfumers Guild + blog with daily updates

1500+ member Natural Perfumery group -

/

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renartmalin wrote:

> coucou Andrine, so cool but don't you thiink there is enough work for

> several people for this interesting collecting job ?

> I remember an impressive number of quotes about perfumes in the

> database !!!!

> Do you think that you can start now, do what you want and can, and when

> you are %-( I can go on after my Perpignan move house ?

> If the work that is done appears clearly, we could be several to make

> the chain, no ?

>

>

> Biiiiises

>

>

OK, two categories:

Poems

Quotes

I have a big file of quotes I've collected over the years. I'll email it

to both of you, if that's OK. It's a Word doc, all quotes are attributed

to the original source.

--

Anya

Anya's Garden http://AnyasGarden.com - perfumes, aromatics, classes,

consultation

Natural Perfumers Guild + blog with daily updates

1500+ member Natural Perfumery group -

/

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the more the merrier!

thank you Anya for this expression, in my froggy lenguage we say

something like : the more fools, the funniest ;-)

We will have a lot of pleasure, and it will be very pleasant I think to

do that being several, (sorry, my English iss not very fluent)

and if other folks want to have fun ;-) yep !!!!

Bises

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> coucou Andrine, so cool but don't you thiink there is enough work for

> several people for this interesting collecting job ?

> I remember an impressive number of quotes about perfumes in the

> database !!!!

> Do you think that you can start now, do what you want and can, and when

> you are %-( I can go on after my Perpignan move house ?

> If the work that is done appears clearly, we could be several to make

> the chain, no ?

>

>

> Biiiiises

>

>

Coucou à vous aussi, ,

Certainly! Then you can have fun with it after your trip. It'll be

fun for all of us who take it on... : D

Cheers!

Andrine

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>Over your flesh perfume drifts

Like incense 'round a censor,

Tantalizing dispenser

Of evening's ardent gifts.

------------------------------------

Many a flower unburdens with regret

Its perfume sweet like a secret;

In profoundly empty solitude to sit.>

Hi Andrine and all,

Thanks for the lovely posts! Do you know who wrote these? I am putting

together a little art film with my husband on the poetry of scent.

blessings, Katlyn

Katlyn Breene

Mermade Magickal Arts (since 1984)

katmermade@...

http://www.mermadearts.com/

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>

> Over your flesh perfume drifts

> Like incense 'round a censor,

> Tantalizing dispenser

> Of evening's ardent gifts.

>

> ------------------------------------

> Many a flower unburdens with regret

> Its perfume sweet like a secret;

> In profoundly empty solitude to sit.>

>

>

> Hi Andrine and all,

>

> Do you know who wrote these? I am putting

> together a little art film with my husband on the poetry of scent.

>

> blessings, Katlyn

Hi Katlyn,

Sorry about that. Those are snippets from Baudelaire - the first one

from Afternoon Song, the second from Ill-starred. What a lovely idea

for you and your husband to do that! Wow. I hope that we might be

able to see it when you're done. Do you think you might put it on

YouTube or anything?

Cheers!

Andrine

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>Sorry about that. Those are snippets from Baudelaire - the first one

from Afternoon Song, the second from Ill-starred. What a lovely idea

for you and your husband to do that! Wow. I hope that we might be

able to see it when you're done. Do you think you might put it on

YouTube or anything<

Thank you Andrine,

I just created a file folder for scent poetry and literature for the

list. I'll get all the recent posts and what I have in my " Archives "

in there this week. It sounds like you have some wonderful sources so

please when you have time, post things there, or you can send them to

me to post.

My husband is a musician and we have wanted to do a project together

for awhile, It is wonderful to live in time where we may bring our

visions to life.

Yes, we were thinking of a YouTube link. It will be awhile to realize

fully, but have made a start.

you can hear our music here:

http://www.sequoiarecords.com/114.php

Katlyn

Katlyn Breene

Mermade Magickal Arts (since 1984)

katmermade@...

http://www.mermadearts.com/

[Guest guest]

>Sorry about that. Those are snippets from Baudelaire - the first one

from Afternoon Song, the second from Ill-starred. What a lovely idea

for you and your husband to do that! Wow. I hope that we might be

able to see it when you're done. Do you think you might put it on

YouTube or anything<

Thank you Andrine,

I just created a file folder for scent poetry and literature for the

list. I'll get all the recent posts and what I have in my " Archives "

in there this week. It sounds like you have some wonderful sources so

please when you have time, post things there, or you can send them to

me to post.

My husband is a musician and we have wanted to do a project together

for awhile, It is wonderful to live in time where we may bring our

visions to life.

Yes, we were thinking of a YouTube link. It will be awhile to realize

fully, but have made a start.

you can hear our music here:

http://www.sequoiarecords.com/114.php

Katlyn

Katlyn Breene

Mermade Magickal Arts (since 1984)

katmermade@...

http://www.mermadearts.com/