Help, Bad Breath/Bullying

[Guest guest]

Lol , I'm a gut expert with , but ashamed to admit as ever on the backburner being so much higher functioning in all areas.

I'm assuming probably wrongly that as his issues are the oppoite of ie Constipation rather than runny, that his gut issue is not the same as s therefore something I probably know very little about.

like your Tim has never had bad breath, the only thing he hasn't had mind you!

Sara, we are just finding out that he has been getting picked on rather more than he has been saying, you know the kind of thing, kids going "yeuch" if he is anywhere near them, or screeching don't touch me if he happens to do so accidentally, handing him things with an exaggerated 2 fingers.

Terrible to say that I am now having murderous thoughts towards a bunch of 11yr olds.

He has only told us this because he now believes he does indeed stink and wanted to ask if we can smell him.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

My 11 yr old is being really picked on because of his bad breath,

everyone in school telling him he stinks, and pretending to be vomiting

when near him.

I know kids can be so very cruel, but he is terribly upset about it.

He does have bad breath, and we have been using Oxypowder, but he

doesen't seem to be getting any more good clear outs, can we up the

dose?

He is also on CP1, is there anything else I can try?

has always had bad guts but never bad breath, has never

had the bad gut like , but does tend to constipation and loves

anything sweet.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

TIA

Vicky

[Guest guest]

Thanks Natasa, no the fact that his teeth are so good, is what leads me to believe it's in his gut, he has an Aspie type obsession with teeth brushing.

Judging by his complaints after passing a BM I think there may be some kind of impacting thats why I thought the Oxypowder would be really good for him, and it was, but seems to have stopped working.

Have spoken to school and waiting to see what they intend doing, the usual response is they will have a word with the children, normally that involves them telling me is somehow involved in what is going on so don't how they will manage to put any blame his way for this one.

Thanks

Vicky

[Guest guest]

Poor little

thing. I don’t know about the breath but I do know that telling teachers

helps. (I’m a teacher) Bullying isn’t tolerated these days and

teachers know how to talk to the bullies to put a stop to it. (if it continues

after a talk/ warning, the kids should be spoken to in front of their

parents).  Teachers are busy people so may not notice that the teasing is going

on. If they don’t know how to deal with it, they’re a pretty crap

school.

SARA

Help, Bad Breath/Bullying

My 11 yr old is

being really picked on because of his bad breath,

everyone in school telling him he stinks, and pretending to be vomiting

when near him.

I know kids can be so very cruel, but he is terribly upset about it.

He does have bad breath, and we have been using Oxypowder, but he

doesen't seem to be getting any more good clear outs, can we up the

dose?

He is also on CP1, is there anything else I can try?

has always had bad guts but never bad breath, has never

had the bad gut like , but does tend to constipation and loves

anything sweet.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

TIA

Vicky

--

No virus found in this incoming message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006

--

No virus found in this outgoing message.

Checked by AVG Free Edition.

Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 13/11/2006 16:28:02 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganV@... writes:

Judging by his complaints after passing a BM I think there may be some kind of impacting thats why I thought the Oxypowder would be really good for him, and it was, but seems to have stopped working.

>>>Have you tried increasing the dose? Both Sam and I can take more now than when we started without getting the explosions

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Could be sinus? Chronic Infection? Strep that Yasko talks about? There is that Xylitol spray thingey, I find the name of it for you and post

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

LOL , if your going in Feb we can have a few sherbets and maybe I can get over these dreadful thoughts, hope you are coming.

Thanks for the offer of , penpal would be better as 's dyslexia would be a problem for a webchat, bless.

Anita it's a shame there aren't more teachers really looking out for bullying which very often is more psychological than physical.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

That is horrible, are you going to go to the head about it? Poor kid.

Bad breath does sound like bacteria. Could be higher up in the gut than

what some other kids have (ie if colon has loads of pathogenic bacteria

that probably would not be reflected in the breath, would it, in the

same way as if they colonise somewhere higher up in the GI tract).

does he have any dental problems, or gum problems, that you know of?

bacteria and viruses can colonise the mouth sometimes without any clear

signs and symptoms.

in any case some broad-spectrum natural antimicrobials might be of some

help, like manuka honey, mastic gum etc...

(maybe things like propolis toothpaste etc could be of help too, or the

special ones with manuka)

if he tolerates casein in small amounts maybe SCD yogurt would be worth

trying, or even the diet itself (excellent for dealing with bacteria)

Natasa

>

> Lol , I'm a gut expert with , but ashamed to admit as

ever

> on the backburner being so much higher functioning in all areas.

> I'm assuming probably wrongly that as his issues are the oppoite of

ie

> Constipation rather than runny, that his gut issue is not the same as

s

> therefore something I probably know very little about.

> like your Tim has never had bad breath, the only thing he hasn't

had

> mind you!

> Sara, we are just finding out that he has been getting picked on

rather more

> than he has been saying, you know the kind of thing, kids going

" yeuch " if

> he is anywhere near them, or screeching don't touch me if he happens

to do so

> accidentally, handing him things with an exaggerated 2 fingers.

> Terrible to say that I am now having murderous thoughts towards a

bunch of

> 11yr olds.

> He has only told us this because he now believes he does indeed stink

and

> wanted to ask if we can smell him.

> Vicky

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , I will try that, I started the Oxypowder at half term and weekends incase of problems, couldn't have him having an accident at school, would never get him back again.

Vicky

[Guest guest]

> Terrible to say that I am now having murderous thoughts towards a

bunch of

> 11yr olds.

> He has only told us this because he now believes he does indeed

stink and

> wanted to ask if we can smell him.

> Vicky

>

Don't feel terrible. I confess I started writing stuff earlier

about Spawns of Satan but took it out as I didn't think it was very

PC!!

However, it sounds like they are being extraordinarily vile and I'm

sure I would be fantasising about wringing some scrawny little necks.

Poor . He's had such a rough ride through school.

Give him a massive hug from me and have one for yourself while

you're at it. You know if he fancied a pen pal, or a web chat

maybe, I'll bet my would be up for it, let me know and I'll

ask him.

Love,

[Guest guest]

Vicky,

A former student of mine had simply awful breath. His parents were

going to try a laser surgery on his tonsils as a last resort. He

moved before they had it done, so I didn't learn the outcome. I'm

not suggesting the surgery, but perhaps the problem isn't starting

in the gut but has to do with this particular bacteria that

apparently resides in that whole tonsil area (although removing the

tonsils apparently doesn't help with it). Perhaps you could target

that area somehow with some of the natural antibacterials?

Sorry to hear about what your boy is going through. When I was

teaching I was an absolute zealot about stopping the bullies. They

can be beasts. Murderous thoughts are perfectly normal.

Take care,

Anita

>

> My 11 yr old is being really picked on because of his bad breath,

> everyone in school telling him he stinks, and pretending to be

vomiting

> when near him.

> I know kids can be so very cruel, but he is terribly upset about

it.

> He does have bad breath, and we have been using Oxypowder, but he

> doesen't seem to be getting any more good clear outs, can we up

the

> dose?

> He is also on CP1, is there anything else I can try?

> has always had bad guts but never bad breath, has

never

> had the bad gut like , but does tend to constipation and loves

> anything sweet.

> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

> TIA

> Vicky

>

[Guest guest]

When there is a bad compaction you might need to add something in with the oxypowder to really have a good clear out. Advised by we added Senna drops along with 7 oxy capsules, the senna I have bought over the internet from Neal's Yard they are about £5.00 I think as it was a while ago when I bought some (you only need a tiny bit and it lasts ages) trust me they really add an extra bite to the oxypowder so if you do use them make sure you are not going anywhere the next day!!!

x

> Message Received: Nov 13 2006, 07:41 PM> From: Mum231ASD@...> Autism Treatment > Cc: > Subject: Re: Re:Help, Bad Breath/Bullying> >

>

In a message dated 13/11/2006 16:28:02 GMT Standard Time, MaddiganVaol writes:

Judging by his complaints after passing a BM I think there may be some kind of impacting thats why I thought the Oxypowder would be really good for him, and it was, but seems to have stopped working.

>>>Have you tried increasing the dose? Both Sam and I can take more now than when we started without getting the explosions

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

>

> LOL , if your going in Feb we can have a few sherbets and

maybe I can

> get over these dreadful thoughts, hope you are coming.

> Thanks for the offer of , penpal would be better as

's

> dyslexia would be a problem for a webchat, bless.

OK, I will talk to tomorrow. I think he'll be up for it,

though he may not be the worlds greatest correspondant on paper,

lol, still we give it a try!

Still not decided about Feb as we don't have a moving date yet and

school appeals and reviews are dominating my thoughts, but when

things are clearer, I'll decide for sure. I'll proably be in need

of a complete change of scene by then!

> Anita it's a shame there aren't more teachers really looking out

for

> bullying which very often is more psychological than physical.

> Vicky

Too true. We are going through a bad patch with Hannah. Not quite

bullying but I am stunned at how sneaky some seven year old girls

can be. It feels nastier in many respects than anything I've been

through with my boys as it's so underhand. The chief culprit at the

mo has the butter-wouldn't-melt innocent look off to a tee and it

feels like we are the only parents in the world capable of seeing

that there can be two sides to a story and that the one in floods of

oscar winning tears isn't necessarily the one who's been wronged.

I'm actually really pleased that we are moving and giving her a

fresh start but anxious that this sort of thing goes on everywhere

and hoping to help her ensure she's not the victim of it in her next

school. Off to look up some anti-bullying websites now as I'm

feeling so upset over a conversation I had with her tonight about it

all.

Your murderously :-(