OT: statutory assessment of SEN

[Guest guest]

Hi all

Advice is now being gathered by the LEA on Philip from various

sources. As parents, we also have the right to request that advice

be gathered from anyone with knowledge that might be relevant to

Philip's educational needs.

We are wondering whether to ask for advice to be sought from

Philip's DAN! practitioner and independent medical doctor: I guess

they could comment on his high anxiety and the need for diet and

supplements to manage this anxiety (and other autistic behaviours).

Does anyone have any views on to what extent this kind of

information may influence the assessment, or experience of including

this kind of info in a statutory assessment? If you have included

this kind of info, was its outcome positive, negative or neutral?

Thanks

Zoe

[Guest guest]

In my experience you can ask for anyone you like to be included and they

ignore it all.

Sally

Zoe wrote:

>

> Hi all

>

> Advice is now being gathered by the LEA on Philip from various

> sources. As parents, we also have the right to request that advice

> be gathered from anyone with knowledge that might be relevant to

> Philip's educational needs.

>

> We are wondering whether to ask for advice to be sought from

> Philip's DAN! practitioner and independent medical doctor: I guess

> they could comment on his high anxiety and the need for diet and

> supplements to manage this anxiety (and other autistic behaviours).

>

> Does anyone have any views on to what extent this kind of

> information may influence the assessment, or experience of including

> this kind of info in a statutory assessment? If you have included

> this kind of info, was its outcome positive, negative or neutral?

>

> Thanks

>

> Zoe

>

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[Guest guest]

I think the key point about this post is the word Barrister. If you want

the lea to take any notice of what it writes in the statement then you

need one

Sally

Jane Hogan wrote:

>

> Not sure what kind of provision you are looking for Zoe. However, I

> would definitely include any info from doctors, dietary issues,

> biomedical or otherwise. This info may help for instance if the

> school could not provide assurance that you child will be kept gfcf.

> I didn't have any of this info when we were going through the

> statementing process, but was told by the Barrister that we used that

> he had seen special diets influence placement - and in some

> circumstances help towards securing home ed. Sorry, no details of

> where this happened.

>

>

>

> * OT: statutory assessment of SEN

>

> Hi all

>

> Advice is now being gathered by the LEA on Philip from various

> sources. As parents, we also have the right to request that advice

> be gathered from anyone with knowledge that might be relevant to

> Philip's educational needs.

>

> We are wondering whether to ask for advice to be sought from

> Philip's DAN! practitioner and independent medical doctor: I guess

> they could comment on his high anxiety and the need for diet and

> supplements to manage this anxiety (and other autistic behaviours).

>

> Does anyone have any views on to what extent this kind of

> information may influence the assessment, or experience of including

> this kind of info in a statutory assessment? If you have included

> this kind of info, was its outcome positive, negative or neutral?

>

> Thanks

>

> Zoe

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I thought Barristers weren't employed until you are actually

contesting the provision..........we haven't got as far as provision

yet - I am talking about the part where the LEA gathers 'advice'

(including advice from parents and experts who parents nominate).

Are you suggesting we should employ a Barrister at this stage?

Zoe

> >

> > Not sure what kind of provision you are looking for Zoe.

However, I

> > would definitely include any info from doctors, dietary issues,

> > biomedical or otherwise. This info may help for instance if the

> > school could not provide assurance that you child will be kept

gfcf.

> > I didn't have any of this info when we were going through the

> > statementing process, but was told by the Barrister that we used

that

> > he had seen special diets influence placement - and in some

> > circumstances help towards securing home ed. Sorry, no details

of

> > where this happened.

> >

> >

> >

> > * OT: statutory

assessment of SEN

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > Advice is now being gathered by the LEA on Philip from

various

> > sources. As parents, we also have the right to request that

advice

> > be gathered from anyone with knowledge that might be

relevant to

> > Philip's educational needs.

> >

> > We are wondering whether to ask for advice to be sought from

> > Philip's DAN! practitioner and independent medical doctor: I

guess

> > they could comment on his high anxiety and the need for diet

and

> > supplements to manage this anxiety (and other autistic

behaviours).

> >

> > Does anyone have any views on to what extent this kind of

> > information may influence the assessment, or experience of

including

> > this kind of info in a statutory assessment? If you have

included

> > this kind of info, was its outcome positive, negative or

neutral?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Zoe

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

If you know what provision you want and feel the lea is likely to give

it to you then no. If you know what you want and feel the lea is not

likely to give it to you, then you should consider some sort of lawyer.

A barrister is really for tribunal, as you say. Certainly my experience

is that you should gather evidence from absolutely everyone. Afterall

all your evidence will be true and contribute to any case you eventually

want to make.

Then in my experience the lea (Southwark for me) will ignore it all and

make its standard offer (whatever that maybe). You will either want that

or not. If you don't want it you must know what you do want and be

prepared to go to Tribunal and ask for it. We lost at Tribunal. Better

preparation would probably have made a difference.

Sally

Zoe wrote:

>

> I thought Barristers weren't employed until you are actually

> contesting the provision... .......we haven't got as far as provision

> yet - I am talking about the part where the LEA gathers 'advice'

> (including advice from parents and experts who parents nominate).

>

> Are you suggesting we should employ a Barrister at this stage?

>

> Zoe

>

>

> > >

> > > Not sure what kind of provision you are looking for Zoe.

> However, I

> > > would definitely include any info from doctors, dietary issues,

> > > biomedical or otherwise. This info may help for instance if the

> > > school could not provide assurance that you child will be kept

> gfcf.

> > > I didn't have any of this info when we were going through the

> > > statementing process, but was told by the Barrister that we used

> that

> > > he had seen special diets influence placement - and in some

> > > circumstances help towards securing home ed. Sorry, no details

> of

> > > where this happened.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > * OT: statutory

> assessment of SEN

> > >

> > > Hi all

> > >

> > > Advice is now being gathered by the LEA on Philip from

> various

> > > sources. As parents, we also have the right to request that

> advice

> > > be gathered from anyone with knowledge that might be

> relevant to

> > > Philip's educational needs.

> > >

> > > We are wondering whether to ask for advice to be sought from

> > > Philip's DAN! practitioner and independent medical doctor: I

> guess

> > > they could comment on his high anxiety and the need for diet

> and

> > > supplements to manage this anxiety (and other autistic

> behaviours).

> > >

> > > Does anyone have any views on to what extent this kind of

> > > information may influence the assessment, or experience of

> including

> > > this kind of info in a statutory assessment? If you have

> included

> > > this kind of info, was its outcome positive, negative or

> neutral?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Zoe

> > >

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[Guest guest]

Zoe,

It might be worth having some advice at the stage of getting your

draft statement - from a specialist solicitor who knows what the usual

LEA tricks are when comes to writing incomplete and unenforceable

Statements. Sometimes it's best not to try to negotiate an improved

Statement but wait for them to issue the final one which can then be

appealed. However, some LEAs are more helpful than others..

Margaret

[Guest guest]

Hi Sally

Yes we are prepared for the LEA to say that they can meet our son's

needs from within the authority. We will not accept this and are

ready and waiting to go to another tribunal with all the entourage

and cost that that entails

Sorry to hear you lost at tribunal.

Zoe

> > > >

> > > > Not sure what kind of provision you are looking for Zoe.

> > However, I

> > > > would definitely include any info from doctors, dietary

issues,

> > > > biomedical or otherwise. This info may help for instance if

the

> > > > school could not provide assurance that you child will be

kept

> > gfcf.

> > > > I didn't have any of this info when we were going through the

> > > > statementing process, but was told by the Barrister that we

used

> > that

> > > > he had seen special diets influence placement - and in some

> > > > circumstances help towards securing home ed. Sorry, no

details

> > of

> > > > where this happened.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > * OT: statutory

> > assessment of SEN

> > > >

> > > > Hi all

> > > >

> > > > Advice is now being gathered by the LEA on Philip from

> > various

> > > > sources. As parents, we also have the right to request that

> > advice

> > > > be gathered from anyone with knowledge that might be

> > relevant to

> > > > Philip's educational needs.

> > > >

> > > > We are wondering whether to ask for advice to be sought from

> > > > Philip's DAN! practitioner and independent medical doctor: I

> > guess

> > > > they could comment on his high anxiety and the need for diet

> > and

> > > > supplements to manage this anxiety (and other autistic

> > behaviours).

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone have any views on to what extent this kind of

> > > > information may influence the assessment, or experience of

> > including

> > > > this kind of info in a statutory assessment? If you have

> > included

> > > > this kind of info, was its outcome positive, negative or

> > neutral?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Zoe

> > > >

> > > >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Margaret. I have a very kind solicitor from a well known

tribunal helper organisation who has agreed to look at our submission

to the assessment and any draft statement on a voluntary basis

It's really hard deciding what to do for the best when you just don't

trust the process!

Zoe

>

> Zoe,

> It might be worth having some advice at the stage of getting your

> draft statement - from a specialist solicitor who knows what the

usual

> LEA tricks are when comes to writing incomplete and unenforceable

> Statements. Sometimes it's best not to try to negotiate an improved

> Statement but wait for them to issue the final one which can then be

> appealed. However, some LEAs are more helpful than others..

> Margaret

>

[Guest guest]

That's OK. I don't think that you should conclude anything about your

own chances at Tribunal from our case. I won't go into the details but

briefly we were trying to get a special (and very unusual) deal in a

mainstream school and no mainstream school would offer us a place. We

wanted to force them but it probably wouldn't have been tenable. We home

educate now and that works well -- probably better. But yes, our problem

was the same as it sounds as if yours will be. The lea runs a special

school and wants to put its own borough children in it. So it wouldn't

support our case for mainstream and wanted us to accept special

education. We would have been more likely to win in a borough without an

apparently suitable special school. I think that we could have won if we

had chosen a special school in a different borough for very sound

reasons. I'm sure you have them.

Sally

Zoe wrote:

>

> Hi Sally

>

> Yes we are prepared for the LEA to say that they can meet our son's

> needs from within the authority. We will not accept this and are

> ready and waiting to go to another tribunal with all the entourage

> and cost that that entails

>

> Sorry to hear you lost at tribunal.

>

> Zoe

>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Not sure what kind of provision you are looking for Zoe.

> > > However, I

> > > > > would definitely include any info from doctors, dietary

> issues,

> > > > > biomedical or otherwise. This info may help for instance if

> the

> > > > > school could not provide assurance that you child will be

> kept

> > > gfcf.

> > > > > I didn't have any of this info when we were going through the

> > > > > statementing process, but was told by the Barrister that we

> used

> > > that

> > > > > he had seen special diets influence placement - and in some

> > > > > circumstances help towards securing home ed. Sorry, no

> details

> > > of

> > > > > where this happened.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > * OT: statutory

> > > assessment of SEN

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi all

> > > > >

> > > > > Advice is now being gathered by the LEA on Philip from

> > > various

> > > > > sources. As parents, we also have the right to request that

> > > advice

> > > > > be gathered from anyone with knowledge that might be

> > > relevant to

> > > > > Philip's educational needs.

> > > > >

> > > > > We are wondering whether to ask for advice to be sought from

> > > > > Philip's DAN! practitioner and independent medical doctor: I

> > > guess

> > > > > they could comment on his high anxiety and the need for diet

> > > and

> > > > > supplements to manage this anxiety (and other autistic

> > > behaviours).

> > > > >

> > > > > Does anyone have any views on to what extent this kind of

> > > > > information may influence the assessment, or experience of

> > > including

> > > > > this kind of info in a statutory assessment? If you have

> > > included

> > > > > this kind of info, was its outcome positive, negative or

> > > neutral?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Zoe

> > > > >

> > > > >

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