RE: non-toxic way of dealing with split ends...

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--- Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote: >

....any suggestions?

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A sharp pair of scissors?

Jo

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--- Suze Fisher <s.fisher22@...> wrote: >

....any suggestions?

>

>>A sharp pair of scissors?

----->LOL! have tried...doesn't last long. i'd like some other way to deal

with them between cuts, which are every 4 to 6 weeks.

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

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heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

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>>A sharp pair of scissors?

----->LOL! have tried...doesn't last long. i'd like some other way to

----->deal with them between cuts, which are every 4 to 6 weeks.

Here it is: vinegar. I use apple cider vinegar, but regular works too. I

have waist-length, board-straight hair and used to have split ends halfway

up the shaft; like you, I found cutting them off only worked for a short

while. Then I discovered vinegar! I keep a large plastic cup in the shower

and fill it with water, then put a good " glug-glug " of the AC vinegar into

the cup (til the water turns dark yellow). After shampooing, I dip the ends

of my hair in this and swish around real good, then I pour the rest over the

top of my head through my hair.

I have not used *any* conditioner on my hair in years, since I started using

vinegar. It rinses all the shampoo out, softens and detangles, and prevents

split ends - and will even *heal* minor splits. I have a haircut once or

twice a year, and never have any split ends. The stylists are always amazed

when I tell them when my last haircut was!

After I started using it, I was telling an elderly friend about my wonderful

discovery. She deflated my pride when she said, oh, yes, we always used to

use vinegar rinses when I was young! LOL!

Caveat: you can only use it like every *other* shampoo, because after a few

weeks of using it every time, your hair will get TOO soft! Seriously, so

soft you can't do anything with it!

~ Carma ~

" God has given you all you need to train and educate your children at home -

it's in real books and real life. " ~ Clay son ~

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i always use a vinegar rinse on my (fine, long, and curly) hair, too!

i do it because my mother always did it when she washed my hair, and

i like the way it gets my scalp clean. (i have seborrheic dermatitis.)

i rarely get my hair cut professionally (1x every 2-3 yrs), and they

always comment on the good condition of my hair.

i also understand that one shouldn't comb or brush the hair when it's

wet as that is when it's weaker.

allene

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>> ...any suggestions? <<

Do you mean split ends in your hair?

There is no toxic way to deal with them that I know of <G>. The only way to deal

with a splitting hair shaft is to trim above the split. Some conditioners and

styling aids might coat the shaft enough to sort of hold the split down and make

your hair look better, but the split will continue up the hair shaft no matter

what you do unless it's trimmed.

If you mean how to PREVENT them from developing, it's partly genetics (sorry!),

partly diet (protein and good fats, which I'd expect you to have covered), and

partly products - you want to avoid anything that is drying or leaves residues,

which will make your hair more brittle. Things like henna are particularly bad,

as are many conditioners and styling aids.

However, I would say that the most impact is from how you dry and comb and style

your hair. You never want to go against the grain of the hair when you style it

or dry it. For instance, rubbing back and forth with a towel is very damaging to

your hair. Just blot it and move the towel only in one direction, DOWN the hair

shaft.

Never brush wet hair, only use a wide-toothed " detangling comb. " When you meet

resistance while combing, never pull through it! Stop, go BELOW the resistance

(tangle), and gently work it apart from below. You should not have broken hairs

in your comb, that's how gentle you should be.

Never comb dry hair - only use a very soft natural bristle brush.

Comb, detangle, and brush from the underneath, never the top layer.

If you are doing something where your hair might get blown around, such as

riding in a convertible or go-go dancing <G>, confine or cover your hair.

If you swim, use a chlorine remover every time.

Don't go in the sun with uncovered hair. It burns and is damaged by the sun just

like your skin is. Wear hats!

If you blow-dry your hair, keep the dryer moving all the time. Detangle your

hair first, then use a soft bristled styling brush and/or your fingers, gently

moving your hands or brush through your hair DOWN the length of the shaft. Don't

use the highest heat setting, especially after the hair is partially dry. Never,

ever blow backwards or all around. Blow dry from the bottom layers (upside down)

if you want to create volume, but always always down the length of the shaft,

never against it.

As to what products I like, I like Aveda.

Hope this helps!

Christie

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I think MSM is supposed to be good for split-ends. I know it is supposedly

good for hair falling out, but can't remember for sure whether it's been

claimed to cure split ends.

Chris

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Chiming in... : )

I think the best thing (besides nutrition) is to not dry your hair out or

damage it with handling. My hair is thick and curly and used to be past my

waste, but my habit of cutting it with each pregnancy has shortened it

considerably. ; ) Anyhow... I second the not washing often and suggest

only washing your scalp - if you can. Back then I could. Now my life is

much different and I live several dirt miles away from a paved road which

means I now have to wash all my hair to get that dirt out and about every

other day or it drives me nuts.

I've never used a natural bristle brush. I only use a wide spaced hair pick

(thick and curly, I have no choice) and only once per day.

The vinegar rinse sounds great. I used to use a citric acid rinse (1/4 tsp

to 2 cups of water) but it is no longer carried in the grocery stores up

here, and can only be had from the pharmacy for an outrageous price. I'm

guessing that the vinegar and citric acid are doing the same thing -

changing the pH of your final rinse water. I was told by a hair dresser

once that tear-free shampoo is terrible for hair because it is pH adjusted

to not burn eyes, and damages hair instead. I wonder what pH hair does best

with.

Rhea

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>Here it is: vinegar. I use apple cider vinegar, but regular works too. I

>have waist-length, board-straight hair and used to have split ends halfway

>up the shaft; like you, I found cutting them off only worked for a short

>while. Then I discovered vinegar! I keep a large plastic cup in the shower

>and fill it with water, then put a good " glug-glug " of the AC vinegar into

>the cup (til the water turns dark yellow). After shampooing, I dip the ends

>of my hair in this and swish around real good, then I pour the rest over the

>top of my head through my hair.

You know, I use vinegar on my hands constantly but have not

tried it on my hair. I'm going to pour some for downstairs now!

Vinegar counteracts the alkaline soap (and the alkalis in dirt). When

you dye wool, you always use vinegar to " seal " the wool again. That

makes a LOT of sense.

I've also heard people use coconut oil -- I'm not sure how that works,

rub it in an leave it, or let it soak in then rinse/wash it out?

-- Heidi

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Heidi,

With Coconut oil (works great!) I generally will wash my hair, towel dry it,

apply as much Coconut oil as it will hold. Then I put on a shower cap, wrap it

all up in a towel and leave it on as long as I can stand it. Some people sleep

with it on. Then you just wash and rinse as usual. I usually don't apply any

conditioner when using CO.

Back when I used my home made shampoo bar soap, I always rinsed with apple cider

vinegar. It really made my hair soft, but it was so clean I really had a

problem with static electricity in the winter months. I did love the feel of my

hair though, and it was so easy to comb out too. The smell? It always goes

away once it's dry.

Janet

RE: non-toxic way of dealing with split ends...

>Here it is: vinegar. I use apple cider vinegar, but regular works too. I

>have waist-length, board-straight hair and used to have split ends halfway

>up the shaft; like you, I found cutting them off only worked for a short

>while. Then I discovered vinegar! I keep a large plastic cup in the shower

>and fill it with water, then put a good " glug-glug " of the AC vinegar into

>the cup (til the water turns dark yellow). After shampooing, I dip the ends

>of my hair in this and swish around real good, then I pour the rest over the

>top of my head through my hair.

You know, I use vinegar on my hands constantly but have not

tried it on my hair. I'm going to pour some for downstairs now!

Vinegar counteracts the alkaline soap (and the alkalis in dirt). When

you dye wool, you always use vinegar to " seal " the wool again. That

makes a LOT of sense.

I've also heard people use coconut oil -- I'm not sure how that works,

rub it in an leave it, or let it soak in then rinse/wash it out?

-- Heidi

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hey, heidi--

> Vinegar counteracts the alkaline soap (and the alkalis in dirt).

When you dye wool, you always use vinegar to " seal " the wool again.

That makes a LOT of sense. <

yes! and to felt wool or full knitting, you use alkaline soap to open

up the fibers.

the vinegar seems to cut down on my tendency to frizz (to be a wooly

head).

allene, a fool for fulling

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my gosh, christie, you could write a book on split ends and hair care! LOL.

thanks to everyone for all the great suggestions. funny, i just recently

started using ACV occassionally on my hair, but now i'll do it more

regularly. does everyone leave it in? or rinse it out after a while? i've

just been letting my hair dry with the ACV in it. funny, i used to use it

when i was younger - my mom taught me to use it. but haven't in years. i

also liked janet's suggestion of CO, which i've done once or twice. i think

it helps.

i don't brush, i use a big wide-toothed pick. unfortunately i cannot go for

days on end without washing my hair as some of you can, as i have a VERY

oily face/scalp. a few days of no hair washing and i look like i haven't

seen a shower in weeks, because my hair gets so oily. mostly around my face,

but it's enough to make me want to wash it before going out in public.

however, i suspect the root cause of my split ends might be hypothyroidism,

which i will be addressing soon (my consult with ron schmid is tomorrow).

thanks again!

Suze Fisher

Lapdog Design, Inc.

Web Design & Development

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg

Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine

http://www.westonaprice.org

----------------------------

" The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause

heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " --

Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt

University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher.

The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics

<http://www.thincs.org>

----------------------------

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>> The smell? It always goes away once it's dry.

Oh, I did mean to mention that. Your towel will get stinky pretty quickly,

though!

~ Carma ~

" God has given you all you need to train and educate your children at home -

it's in real books and real life. " ~ Clay son ~

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>> does everyone leave it in? or rinse it out after a while?

I do not rinse my hair after pouring the vinegar thru it.

~ Carma ~

" God has given you all you need to train and educate your children at home -

it's in real books and real life. " ~ Clay son ~

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I use an apple cider vinegar rinse that I got from Riquette's book,

http://www.riquette.com. I simmer some herbs in the ACV, strain and

store in the glass bottle the ACV came in. It works quite well.

On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:07:24 -0400

" Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...> wrote:

>..any suggestions?

>

>Suze Fisher