Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 > > Does this help? > >Yes Theresa it does, although I had kinda hoped it would be one we did not need, but it seems that it is potentially just too useful to skip. Unfortunately we have had to cancel our DAN appt tomorrow because K has a cough, and so starting the bethanacol is a big no no. I am desperately fed up, was quite excited about starting bethanacol (as per Megson), but at least I phoned to check, rather than travelling for 4 hours to be told no in person. Should rearrange DAN appt soon, so will ask about NADH then. Thanks again, you have been a great help Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Thanks, , I appreciate your insightful comments and your link. Re: Speech probs and calcium> > >> > >> > > ---> > > > I was very intrigued by the article, and wondered about> > overdose> > > potential. I had no luck finding anything to indicate optimum> > > levels/dosages/indications of overdose. Also, it seemed that in> > Uk it> > > has to be prescribed, so could be a problem to obtain. Does> > anyone> > > know anything about dosages, and overdose potential?> > > Sue> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Right back atcha, . This has been a GREAT conversation and I've learned tons. Thanks so much... T > > > > > > > > Sue, > > > > > > > > I did research this, and found that K1 and K2 present no > toxicity > > > issues. Whatever is not used, I read, is excreted daily from > the > > > body, remarkable for a fat soluble vitamin, unlike A and D, > but not > > > unlike Vitamin E, which has no toxicity even in doses as high > as > > > 10,000 IU per day. > > > > > > > > The thing to watch out for, I read is the K3, a synthethic > K, as > > > it is toxic at too high of a dose. > > > > > > > > The dosage in the article is high, we don't use that much, > but use > > > 9 mg of K1 and 1 mg of K2. K2 is thought to be the more > biologically > > > active and is the K that everyone is supposed to produce in > their > > > gut. I have just ordered 5 mg gel caps of K2 from Carlson > > > laboratories and am going to try that. > > > > > > > > If you google K, you should find what I told you, if you find > > > anything different, I would appreciate your sharing it. > > > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Speech probs and > calcium > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > I was very intrigued by the article, and wondered about > > > overdose > > > > potential. I had no luck finding anything to indicate optimum > > > > levels/dosages/indications of overdose. Also, it seemed that > in > > > Uk it > > > > has to be prescribed, so could be a problem to obtain. Does > > > anyone > > > > know anything about dosages, and overdose potential? > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 In a message dated 27/09/2006 18:26:03 GMT Daylight Time, tltbaku@... writes: Well, I think that this is kind of the point. You give reduced glutathione, then the body uses it and it immediately becomes oxidized glutathione. If you don't hav e a complex disease like autism or you aren't old, then you should have enough NADH being produced in order to recycle the oxidized glutathione back to reduced glutathione. So really it's the NADH that is very important here, because our kids don't have the ability to recycle it very well -- glutathione peroxidase is not working well, often because there's not enough NADH. >>>This is why its a favourite with Lang at Brainchild, it was him that got us started on it. I currently use the lquid from from Metabolics but will try the tabs Theresa uses when I run out and see if there is a difference Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Sorry -- I meant glutathione reductase. Glutathione peroxidase is the enzyme that uses reduced glutathione (GSH) to prevent lipid peroxidation. At the end of that process the GSH has been oxidized to GSSG (oxidized glutathione), and in order to recycle the GSSG back to usable GSH, glutathione reductase needs NADH (in the form of NADPH, which is NADH with a phosphate added to it.) Mandi, I'm going to look into the metabolics items -- the NADH and magnesium chloride. We use the magnesium chloride by E-Lyte. LOVED the history you gave us on it! Very interesting! Hugs, Theresa > > > In a message dated 27/09/2006 18:26:03 GMT Daylight Time, tltbaku@... > writes: > > Well, I think that this is kind of the point. You give reduced > glutathione, then the body uses it and it immediately becomes > oxidized glutathione. If you don't hav e a complex disease like > autism or you aren't old, then you should have enough NADH being > produced in order to recycle the oxidized glutathione back to > reduced glutathione. So really it's the NADH that is very important > here, because our kids don't have the ability to recycle it very > well -- glutathione peroxidase is not working well, often because > there's not enough NADH. > > > > >>>This is why its a favourite with Lang at Brainchild, it was him > that got us started on it. I currently use the lquid from from Metabolics but > will try the tabs Theresa uses when I run out and see if there is a difference > > Mandi x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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