RE: Reaction to Village bakery biscuits?

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In a message dated 20/09/2006 15:39:20 GMT Standard Time, rb5760@... writes:

Darla - ginger is high in salycilate - but maybe he doesn't have that particular problem.

Hmmm, thanks for that. I looked up high salicyliate foods and I see that strawberries, apricots, raisins and cucumbers are all high. He eats those without any apparent problems. In fact, he will sometimes eat an enormous amount of strawberries just before going to bed and sleep fine. Is it safe to assume that he is not salicyliate intolerant based on the fact that he eats other high salycilate foods and does not react? I know absolutely nothing about salicyliates!

Thanks very much,

Darla

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Darla - ginger is high in salycilate - but maybe he doesn't have that

particular problem.

On Wednesday, September 20, 2006, at 02:30 pm, rexel45@... wrote:

> I'm trying to work out why was up all night last night.  I can

> only think that it is his stomach hurting him.  He will fall asleep in

> exhaustion and then wake up crying hysterically and just can't sleep. 

> He watched Teletubbies for about 3 hours in the night.  He has really

> bad reflux so that can bother him sometimes but I think he may be

> reacting to some biscuits that he ate. He ate 3 Village Bakery ginger

> buscuits yesterday.

>  

> Has anyone noticed a reaction to any of these ingredients?  (all

> organic) Buckwheat flour, raw can sugar, unhydrogenated palm fat,

> brown rice flour, chestnut flour, manioc starch, water, gluten free

> baking powder, ground ginger, low sodium sea salt. 

>  

> Any red flags there? 

>  

> Otherwise there were no differences in the foods that he ate

> yesterday. I know the sugar isn't good for him but he's loosing weight

> and I'm desperate to find anything that he will eat.

>  

> Thanks,

> Darla

>

>

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Tom has

a definite problem with brown rice and brown rice flour, also sugar – because of

the yeast. SARA

Reaction to Village bakery biscuits?

I'm

trying to work out why was up all night last night. I can only think

that it is his stomach hurting him. He will fall asleep in exhaustion and

then wake up crying hysterically and just can't sleep. He watched

Teletubbies for about 3 hours in the night. He has really bad reflux so

that can bother him sometimes but I think he may be reacting to some biscuits

that he ate. He ate 3 Village Bakery ginger buscuits yesterday.

Has

anyone noticed a reaction to any of these ingredients? (all organic)

Buckwheat flour, raw can sugar, unhydrogenated palm fat, brown rice flour,

chestnut flour, manioc starch, water, gluten free baking powder, ground ginger,

low sodium sea salt.

Any red

flags there?

Otherwise

there were no differences in the foods that he ate yesterday. I know the sugar

isn't good for him but he's loosing weight and I'm desperate to find anything

that he will eat.

Thanks,

Darla

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Darla,

two things i can think of that you should perhaps consider here.

Firstly, with reflux the bottom of the oesophagus (sp?) can become

irritated by acid from the stomach that comes through, this is what

reflux is i think (?) and ginger biscuits can be quite warming when

they go down which may have inflamed this area possibly.

Secondly, a very long shot i would think depending on other symptoms

or lack of, is that ginger is moderate to high oxalate depending on

which list you look at!!! Does your son have any other oxalate

symptoms? The main one we had was urinary problems. There is a

list of parent reported symptoms on the

Trying_Low_Oxalates

perhaps have a quick look at this to hopefully just rule out this

possibility.

Hth, Nikki

>

> I'm trying to work out why was up all night last night. I

can only

> think that it is his stomach hurting him. He will fall asleep in

exhaustion and

> then wake up crying hysterically and just can't sleep. He

watched

> Teletubbies for about 3 hours in the night. He has really bad

reflux so that can

> bother him sometimes but I think he may be reacting to some

biscuits that he ate.

> He ate 3 Village Bakery ginger buscuits yesterday.

>

> Has anyone noticed a reaction to any of these ingredients? (all

organic)

> Buckwheat flour, raw can sugar, unhydrogenated palm fat, brown

rice flour,

> chestnut flour, manioc starch, water, gluten free baking powder,

ground ginger,

> low sodium sea salt.

>

> Any red flags there?

>

> Otherwise there were no differences in the foods that he ate

yesterday. I

> know the sugar isn't good for him but he's loosing weight and I'm

desperate to

> find anything that he will eat.

>

> Thanks,

> Darla

>

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In a message dated 20/09/2006 16:40:31 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-@... writes:

Tom has a definite problem with brown rice and brown rice flour, also sugar – because of the yeast. SARA

Sara,

What happens when Tom has yeast flare up? I'm quite confused about this and haven't treated for yeast at all yet, except for probiotics which seem to cause a die-off syndrome but unfortunately also cause constipation.

Darla

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In a message dated 21/09/2006 13:19:19 GMT Daylight Time, rexel45@... writes:

What happens when Tom has yeast flare up? I'm quite confused about this and haven't treated for yeast at all yet, except for probiotics which seem to cause a die-off syndrome but unfortunately also cause constipation.

>>>This happens to me - chase some Oxypowder with the probio's

Mandi x

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Yeah, has had these drunken actions a couple of times, even waking up laughing and going to sleep laughing. We are going this weekend to see Muscroft so hopefully she can get us set up with a yeast protocol that is good for him. He's just had a horrible horrible explosive diarrhoea nappy so I'm now convinced that the biscuits are the culprit. It's sad because he really likes them and they are high in calories. Oh well, we'll have to find something else.

Thanks for the info!

Darla

In a message dated 21/09/2006 14:13:25 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-@... writes:

Dear Darla,

Tom’s worst flare-up ever was 10 months ago and I don’t keep a diary! The thing I remember though was that he was acting drunk as opposed to zonked or on speed which are his reactions to other ‘bad’ things. (All great ways to describe your toddler!) He was laughing a very crazy, irrational laugh which was really scary, he was miles away and hard to reach but the way drunk people are rather than spaced out, own agenda etc. really not much cop sorry – maybe someone else can talk about yeast flare ups? Didn’t know probiotics caused constipation. Nasty! Are you doing your biomed with a professional?

Sara x

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Hi Darla

Not too good at spotting the old yeasty beasties myself so no great advice on that front, sorry!

Just wanted to say, thinking of you and sounds awesome so know you will be in good hands there and just know good things are gonna happen for that little , this is all how we learn honey so hang in there.

Think of good stuff like what some of us old timers would do to have our time again back with our 3 year olds, you young uns are gonna be changing the face of medical science with all these recovered kids, I just know it...

So lotsa love, we have really ill here with a temperature of 40 C and are off to see the GP at 5 pm... Not something I do often but needs must I reckon sometimes, either ear infection, strep throat or viral throat infection or UTI (thats looking pretty cloudy but then sh has not had much to eat or drink for days!)

Will keep ya all posted, poor wee Becks she is so cuddly wuddly I've just said to her teacher its quite nice having her ill occasionally for all these cuddles!! Only joking would much rather have her as her grumpy little self!

Bye For Now

Love n Flowers Caroline

xxx

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Dear

Darla,

Tom’s worst flare-up ever was 10

months ago and I don’t keep a diary! The thing I remember though was that

he was acting drunk as opposed to zonked or on speed which are his reactions to

other ‘bad’ things. (All great ways to describe your toddler!) He

was laughing a very crazy, irrational laugh which was really scary, he was

miles away and hard to reach but the way drunk people are rather than spaced

out, own agenda etc. really not much cop sorry – maybe someone else can

talk about yeast flare ups? Didn’t know probiotics caused constipation. Nasty!

Are you doing your biomed with a professional?

Sara x

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Reaction to Village bakery biscuits?

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message dated 20/09/2006 16:40:31 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-Tiscali (DOT) co.uk

writes:

Tom has

a definite problem with brown rice and brown rice flour, also sugar –

because of the yeast. SARA

Sara,

What

happens when Tom has yeast flare up? I'm quite confused about this and

haven't treated for yeast at all yet, except for probiotics which seem to

cause a die-off syndrome but unfortunately also cause constipation.

Darla

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Jean’s brill.

She’ll sort him out in now time! Poor ! Poor Darla!

Re:

Reaction to Village bakery biscuits?

Yeah,

has had these drunken actions a couple of times, even waking up laughing

and going to sleep laughing. We are going this weekend to see Jean

Muscroft so hopefully she can get us set up with a yeast protocol that is good

for him. He's just had a horrible horrible explosive diarrhoea nappy so

I'm now convinced that the biscuits are the culprit. It's sad because he

really likes them and they are high in calories. Oh well, we'll have to

find something else.

Thanks

for the info!

Darla

In a

message dated 21/09/2006 14:13:25 GMT Standard Time, Moroza-Tiscali (DOT) co.uk

writes:

Dear

Darla,

Tom’s

worst flare-up ever was 10 months ago and I don’t keep a diary! The thing I

remember though was that he was acting drunk as opposed to zonked or on speed

which are his reactions to other ‘bad’ things. (All great ways to describe your

toddler!) He was laughing a very crazy, irrational laugh which was really

scary, he was miles away and hard to reach but the way drunk people are rather

than spaced out, own agenda etc. really not much cop sorry – maybe someone else

can talk about yeast flare ups? Didn’t know probiotics caused constipation.

Nasty! Are you doing your biomed with a professional?

Sara x

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In a message dated 21/09/2006 19:02:01 GMT Standard Time, moppett1@... writes:

Speaking of salicylates, does anyone have a science-based list of these foods?

Hi

Think there might be some links on Danas website.

Love Caroline

xx

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Sorry for delay - problems with salicylates can be cumulative, but i

think also that some foods even if high can sometimes be tolerated -

based on evidence that I've read - for us it's effect is clear cut. As

with many things it seems to be trial and error. I haven't read any

other responses yet so others may have more info !

On Wednesday, September 20, 2006, at 03:45 pm, rexel45@... wrote:

> In a message dated 20/09/2006 15:39:20 GMT Standard Time,

> rb5760@... writes:

>

> Darla - ginger is high in salycilate - but maybe he doesn't have that

> particular problem.

>

>

> Hmmm, thanks for that. I looked up high salicyliate foods and I see

> that strawberries, apricots, raisins and cucumbers are all high.  He

> eats those without any apparent problems.  In fact, he will sometimes

> eat an enormous amount of strawberries just before going to bed and

> sleep fine.  Is it safe to assume that he is not salicyliate

> intolerant based on the fact that he eats other high salycilate foods

> and does not react?  I know absolutely nothing about salicyliates!

>  

> Thanks very much,

> Darla

>

>

[Guest guest]

Speaking of salicylates, does anyone have a science-based list of these foods?

Re: Reaction to Village bakery biscuits?

Sorry for delay - problems with salicylates can be cumulative, but i think also that some foods even if high can sometimes be tolerated - based on evidence that I've read - for us it's effect is clear cut. As with many things it seems to be trial and error. I haven't read any other responses yet so others may have more info ! On Wednesday, September 20, 2006, at 03:45 pm, rexel45@... wrote:

In a message dated 20/09/2006 15:39:20 GMT Standard Time, rb5760@... writes:Darla - ginger is high in salycilate - but maybe he doesn't have thatparticular problem. Hmmm, thanks for that. I looked up high salicyliate foods and I see that strawberries, apricots, raisins and cucumbers are all high. He eats those without any apparent problems. In fact, he will sometimes eat an enormous amount of strawberries just before going to bed and sleep fine. Is it safe to assume that he is not salicyliate intolerant based on the fact that he eats other high salycilate foods and does not react? I know absolutely nothing about salicyliates! Thanks very much,Darla

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Hi Caroline,

I know about Dana's site but was wondering if anyone had come across studies done in peer-reviewed journals. I amy trying to put a study together for my thesis.... seem to remember a study somewhere but I can't find it anymore....Maybe I'll ask aDna what her source is....

Thanks for your help...

Re: Reaction to Village bakery biscuits?

In a message dated 21/09/2006 19:02:01 GMT Standard Time, moppett1btinternet writes:

Speaking of salicylates, does anyone have a science-based list of these foods?

Hi

Think there might be some links on Danas website.

Love Caroline

xx