Re: was:yeast again - Now High AMMONIA

[Guest guest]

hi all

Eleanor has been suffering from high ammonia levels and has recommended that we start alpha ketoglutaric acid asap, because high ammonia causes long term neurological damage.

HTH,

Joy

x

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/10/2006 12:47:35 GMT Standard Time, catherine.devereux@... writes:

Hi Joy,How did you determine the high levels of ammonia?Love

It was easy for me because I could smell it in her poo. It STANK! Apparently it's a by-product of bacterial overgrowth in the gut. I think it can be detected in an organix aswell if you're not sure, but better check that first!

Joy

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[Guest guest]

Hi Joy,

How did you determine the high levels of ammonia?

Love

joymroscoe@... wrote:

> hi all

>

> Eleanor has been suffering from high ammonia levels and has

> recommended that we start alpha ketoglutaric acid asap, because high

> ammonia causes long term neurological damage.

>

> HTH,

> Joy

> x

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 02/10/2006 16:26:37 GMT Standard Time, peter.standley@... writes:

Hi Joy, ok, so the stink is like old pee or is it something different? sorry but just wondering! Josie x

The only way I can describe the ammonia smell from poo is like very strong cat wee, or like you say, very old wee that has been sitting around for abit. There was no mistaking it, it nearly bowled me over it was so strong. But I think even a small amount would be fairly easy to smell, it's very distinctive. I think I'm trying to say it's poo that smells like wee.

Joy

x

[Guest guest]

>

> hi all

>

> Eleanor has been suffering from high ammonia levels and has

recommended

> that we start alpha ketoglutaric acid asap, because high ammonia

causes long

> term neurological damage.

>

> HTH,

> Joy

> x

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Joy,

Just so you know, if you add AKG to ammonia, it will make glutamate,

which is an excitotoxin. Increased glutamate receptors have been

found in autism, meaning that there are more receptors on the cell

surface to rbing the glutamate inside the cell. This is not

generally good news. Have you tried lowering the high-quality

protein in the diet a little bit?

Best,

Theresa

>

>

> In a message dated 02/10/2006 12:47:35 GMT Standard Time,

> catherine.devereux@... writes:

>

> Hi Joy,

> How did you determine the high levels of ammonia?

> Love

>

>

>

>

> It was easy for me because I could smell it in her poo. It

STANK!

> Apparently it's a by-product of bacterial overgrowth in the gut. I

think it can be

> detected in an organix aswell if you're not sure, but better

check that first!

>

> Joy

> x

>

[Guest guest]

Another viewpoint. We had high ammonia, we used AKG, no problem, just improvements, lots of them, including lots less brain fog. Same for the calcium, we give lots, no problem there either, more improvements, especially since adding the K which allows it to get in.

Nothing is true for all of our kids. Excess protein is not good, but restricting it below normal is not good either, protein is needed for recovery and neurotransmitter problems and thyroid functioning.

Re: was:yeast again - Now High AMMONIA

Hey Joy,Just so you know, if you add AKG to ammonia, it will make glutamate, which is an excitotoxin. Increased glutamate receptors have been found in autism, meaning that there are more receptors on the cell surface to rbing the glutamate inside the cell. This is not generally good news. Have you tried lowering the high-quality protein in the diet a little bit? Best,Theresa>> > In a message dated 02/10/2006 12:47:35 GMT Standard Time, > catherine.devereux@... writes:> > Hi Joy,> How did you determine the high levels of ammonia?> Love> > > > > It was easy for me because I could smell it in her poo. It STANK! > Apparently it's a by-product of bacterial overgrowth in the gut. I think it can be > detected in an organix aswell if you're not sure, but better check that first!> > Joy> x>

[Guest guest]

Agreed, certainly no problem with excess glutamates here, although hate to say this as many times have said we don't have that problem here, only to get it, so won't say it :-)

I got more than one good idea from reading some Yasko, however.

Re: Re: was:yeast again - Now High AMMONIA

In a message dated 02/10/2006 14:59:00 GMT Daylight Time, Ladyshrink111peoplepc writes:

Another viewpoint. We had high ammonia, we used AKG, no problem, just improvements, lots of them, including lots less brain fog. Same for the calcium, we give lots, no problem there either, more improvements, especially since adding the K which allows it to get in.

Nothing is true for all of our kids. Excess protein is not good, but restricting it below normal is not good either, protein is needed for recovery and neurotransmitter problems and thyroid functioning.

>>>I would say that your DGD is not a 'Yasko' kid given the fact she turned right around so quickly

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Hi Joy, ok, so the stink is like old pee or is it something different? sorry but

just

wondering! Josie x

>

>

> In a message dated 02/10/2006 12:47:35 GMT Standard Time,

> catherine.devereux@... writes:

>

> Hi Joy,

> How did you determine the high levels of ammonia?

> Love

>

>

>

>

> It was easy for me because I could smell it in her poo. It STANK!

> Apparently it's a by-product of bacterial overgrowth in the gut. I think it

can

be

> detected in an organix aswell if you're not sure, but better check that

first!

>

> Joy

> x

>

[Guest guest]

Joy you've put a big smile on my face now, a poo that smells like wee,

classic!!!!!!! thanks though, the ammonia issue does crop up a lot doesn't it,

love Josie xx

>

>

> In a message dated 02/10/2006 16:26:37 GMT Standard Time,

> peter.standley@... writes:

>

> Hi Joy, ok, so the stink is like old pee or is it something different? sorry

> but just

> wondering! Josie x

>

>

>

> The only way I can describe the ammonia smell from poo is like very strong

> cat wee, or like you say, very old wee that has been sitting around for abit.

> There was no mistaking it, it nearly bowled me over it was so strong. But I

> think even a small amount would be fairly easy to smell, it's very

> distinctive. I think I'm trying to say it's poo that smells like wee.

> Joy

> x

>