Re: OT: ABA/VB, LEAs and CRB checks

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/10/2006 01:33:25 GMT Standard Time, m.collins9@... writes:

I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being obstructive rather than just following usual practice. I have already been informed informally that there are local families doing programmes who don't all have CRB checks on all the staff on their programmes, which would indicate there is no general requirement or enforcement by the LEA. Which means we are being picked on and obstructed.

They certainly are being obstructive rather than following usual practice!! I doubt if it even falls under their remit to ensure that your providers have CRB checks. Would you like me to post this to the ABA UK board?

Darla

[Guest guest]

Hi Margaret,

My NT son attends a school with a pool attached and once a week has 1/2 hour

swimming class with the teacher and 2 mother helpers. A CRB was done on the

mothers (had to bring in passports into school initially) saying its the law and

everyone working with children has to have a CRB.

Bridget.

>

> From: " Margaret " <m.collins9@...>

> Date: 2006/09/30 Sat PM 07:27:51 BST

> <Autism Treatment >

> Subject: OT: ABA/VB, LEAs and CRB checks

>

> Dear all, I posted this afternoon on this subject, but my message hasn't

appeared, so is probably lost in the aether.

>

> My LEA has blocked an assessment for ABA/VB because the consultant's CRB check

had lapsed. As you know it can take a long time to obtain one.

> I suspect they're being unreasonable , as there would have been 2 or 3 adults

in the room at all times with the consultant. I also suspect that this is

something they've thought of to block progress. I suspect they do not check that

all LEA consultants and tutors throughout the County have CRB checks before they

can start work. In fact I suspect they leave it up to the families to do or not.

>

> I should like to hear what people's experience of this is. Please e-mail me

off-list.

>

> We would have had an assessment by now had it not been for the LEA. SENDIST

issued a Direction that the LEA and I should get an ABA assessment and try to

come to an agreement about Henry's provision. If this fails, we are going back

on 7th November. I now hear the LEA is applying for a further adjournment

because an ABA assessment could not be obtained in time...

>

> I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being obstructive rather than

just following usual practice. I have already been informed informally that

there are local families doing programmes who don't all have CRB checks on all

the staff on their programmes, which would indicate there is no general

requirement or enforcement by the LEA. Which means we are being picked on and

obstructed.

>

> Margaret

>

[Guest guest]

I have a feeling they're cracking down on this in our LEA Margaret. My

tutors have been asked to bring in their crb checks again to the school

- even though they've seen them before.

> OT: ABA/VB, LEAs and CRB checks

> >

> > Dear all, I posted this afternoon on this subject, but my message

hasn't

> appeared, so is probably lost in the aether.

> >

> > My LEA has blocked an assessment for ABA/VB because the consultant's

CRB

> check had lapsed. As you know it can take a long time to obtain one.

> > I suspect they're being unreasonable , as there would have been 2 or

3

> adults in the room at all times with the consultant. I also suspect

that

> this is something they've thought of to block progress. I suspect they

do

> not check that all LEA consultants and tutors throughout the County

have

> CRB checks before they can start work. In fact I suspect they leave it

up

> to the families to do or not.

> >

> > I should like to hear what people's experience of this is. Please

e-mail

> me off-list.

> >

> > We would have had an assessment by now had it not been for the LEA.

> SENDIST issued a Direction that the LEA and I should get an ABA

assessment

> and try to come to an agreement about Henry's provision. If this

fails, we

> are going back on 7th November. I now hear the LEA is applying for a

> further adjournment because an ABA assessment could not be obtained in

> time...

> >

> > I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being obstructive

rather

> than just following usual practice. I have already been informed

> informally that there are local families doing programmes who don't

all

> have CRB checks on all the staff on their programmes, which would

indicate

> there is no general requirement or enforcement by the LEA. Which means

we

> are being picked on and obstructed.

> >

> > Margaret

> >

>

>

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

> qualified practitioner.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Darla, Yes please.

Thank you,

Margaret

>

>

> In a message dated 01/10/2006 01:33:25 GMT Standard Time,

> m.collins9@... writes:

>

> I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being obstructive

rather

> than just following usual practice. I have already been informed

informally that

> there are local families doing programmes who don't all have CRB

checks on

> all the staff on their programmes, which would indicate there is

no general

> requirement or enforcement by the LEA. Which means we are being

picked on and

> obstructed.

>

>

> They certainly are being obstructive rather than following usual

practice!!

> I doubt if it even falls under their remit to ensure that your

providers

> have CRB checks. Would you like me to post this to the ABA UK

board?

> Darla

>

[Guest guest]

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 01/10/2006 01:33:25 GMT Standard Time,

> > m.collins9@ writes:

> >

> > I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being

obstructive

> rather

> > than just following usual practice. I have already been

informed

> informally that

> > there are local families doing programmes who don't all have

CRB

> checks on

> > all the staff on their programmes, which would indicate there

is

> no general

> > requirement or enforcement by the LEA. Which means we are being

> picked on and

> > obstructed.

> >

> >

> > They certainly are being obstructive rather than following

usual

> practice!!

> > I doubt if it even falls under their remit to ensure that your

> providers

> > have CRB checks. Would you like me to post this to the ABA UK

> board?

> > Darla

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I think the situation's different when anyone is going into school

or a day nursery where there are clear statutory obligations about

CRB checks and where the LEA has a duty of care. Also where the LEA

is sending someone into a home where there is a child. However, we

are talking about the parents arranging for someone to see their

child in their presence in their home.

Margaret

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 01/10/2006 01:33:25 GMT Standard Time,

> > > m.collins9@ writes:

> > >

> > > I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being

> obstructive

> > rather

> > > than just following usual practice. I have already been

> informed

> > informally that

> > > there are local families doing programmes who don't all have

> CRB

> > checks on

> > > all the staff on their programmes, which would indicate there

> is

> > no general

> > > requirement or enforcement by the LEA. Which means we are

being

> > picked on and

> > > obstructed.

> > >

> > >

> > > They certainly are being obstructive rather than following

> usual

> > practice!!

> > > I doubt if it even falls under their remit to ensure that

your

> > providers

> > > have CRB checks. Would you like me to post this to the ABA

UK

> > board?

> > > Darla

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/10/2006 22:53:05 GMT Daylight Time, m.collins9@... writes:

Thanks, Tina.I wondered whether the LEA stopped anything happening until after all the clearences were through or were you able to run a programme?

>>>I think Tina's programme was part of the SCAMP project so that might be why it was all tickedy boo on the CRB stuff

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Margaret My LEA (hampshire) organised all the CRB checks for our tutors once the ABA was in the statement. TinaMargaret <m.collins9@...> wrote: Dear all, I posted this afternoon on this subject, but my message hasn't appeared, so is probably lost in the aether. My LEA has blocked an assessment for ABA/VB

because the consultant's CRB check had lapsed. As you know it can take a long time to obtain one. I suspect they're being unreasonable , as there would have been 2 or 3 adults in the room at all times with the consultant. I also suspect that this is something they've thought of to block progress. I suspect they do not check that all LEA consultants and tutors throughout the County have CRB checks before they can start work. In fact I suspect they leave it up to the families to do or not. I should like to hear what people's experience of this is. Please e-mail me off-list. We would have had an assessment by now had it not been for the LEA. SENDIST issued a Direction that the LEA and I should get an ABA assessment and try to come to an agreement

about Henry's provision. If this fails, we are going back on 7th November. I now hear the LEA is applying for a further adjournment because an ABA assessment could not be obtained in time... I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being obstructive rather than just following usual practice. I have already been informed informally that there are local families doing programmes who don't all have CRB checks on all the staff on their programmes, which would indicate there is no general requirement or enforcement by the LEA. Which means we are being picked on and obstructed. Margaret

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Tina.

I wondered whether the LEA stopped anything happening until after

all the clearences were through or were you able to run a programme?

Margaret

> Dear all, I posted this afternoon on this subject, but

my message hasn't appeared, so is probably lost in the aether.

>

> My LEA has blocked an assessment for ABA/VB because the

consultant's CRB check had lapsed. As you know it can take a long

time to obtain one.

> I suspect they're being unreasonable , as there would have been

2 or 3 adults in the room at all times with the consultant. I also

suspect that this is something they've thought of to block progress.

I suspect they do not check that all LEA consultants and tutors

throughout the County have CRB checks before they can start work. In

fact I suspect they leave it up to the families to do or not.

>

> I should like to hear what people's experience of this is.

Please e-mail me off-list.

>

> We would have had an assessment by now had it not been for the

LEA. SENDIST issued a Direction that the LEA and I should get an ABA

assessment and try to come to an agreement about Henry's provision.

If this fails, we are going back on 7th November. I now hear the LEA

is applying for a further adjournment because an ABA assessment

could not be obtained in time...

>

> I would like to be able to show that the LEA is being

obstructive rather than just following usual practice. I have

already been informed informally that there are local families doing

programmes who don't all have CRB checks on all the staff on their

programmes, which would indicate there is no general requirement or

enforcement by the LEA. Which means we are being picked on and

obstructed.

>

> Margaret

>

[Guest guest]

Cambridgeshire organise

the crb checks, you pay for it out of your funding – think it’s

£40. They never stopped me

running the programme whilst I was waiting for the checks

Re:

Re: OT: ABA/VB, LEAs and CRB checks

In a message

dated 01/10/2006 22:53:05 GMT Daylight Time, m.collins9@... writes:

Thanks, Tina.

I wondered whether the LEA stopped anything happening until after

all the clearences were through or were you able to run a programme?

>>>I

think Tina's programme was part of the SCAMP project so that might be why it

was all tickedy boo on the CRB stuff

Mandi x

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 01/10/2006 01:33:22 GMT Daylight Time, m.collins9@... writes:

My LEA has blocked an assessment for ABA/VB because the consultant's CRB check had lapsed. As you know it can take a long time to obtain one.

Hi Margaret

havent read all this thread yet so sorry if soeone already said this.... they can also turn around these checks in quite a short space of time especially if you already ahve been checked out and just applying for a renewal. Mine for working as a helper at camerons nursery last year was done in just 2 weeks.

JMHO

Caroline

xxx