Re: VSL 3 Probiotic

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In a message dated 30/07/2006 08:50:43 GMT Daylight Time, rexel45@... writes:

Has anyone used this? I have received a couple of recommendations for it from the US because of 's chronic acute gastroenteritis. I don't see any suppliers here in the UK and I don't know if shipping it over is possible due to temperature control.

>>>We used it when it first came out - ring them up and give them sob story they might send you some - they did me - 10 packets

Its a HUGE amount of powder to get in a kid, Sam was tiny then, I beleive there may be corn starch - or there used to be so check that first.

It has to be shppped overnight on lots of ice and isn't really any good if it melts as I recall.

I like CP1 from Custom probiotocs - guarenteed to have 25 bill CFU's after being at room temp for 3 weeks on testing - I have copy of lastest analysis - when there were still 48 bill CFU's

HTH - going from memory

Mandi x

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In a message dated 30/07/2006 15:16:45 GMT Daylight Time, saqabisa@... writes:

intresting how do you rate klaire therabiotics compare to cp1

>>Never tried them - CP1, SaccB, Biokult and PD doing well so no need

Mandi x

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hi

intresting how do you rate klaire therabiotics compare to cp1

nasreen

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> In a message dated 30/07/2006 08:50:43 GMT Daylight Time, rexel45@...

> writes:

>

> Has anyone used this? I have received a couple of recommendations

for it

> from the US because of 's chronic acute gastroenteritis. I

don't see any

> suppliers here in the UK and I don't know if shipping it over is

possible due

> to temperature control.

>

>

>

> >>>We used it when it first came out - ring them up and give them

sob story

> they might send you some - they did me - 10 packets

>

> Its a HUGE amount of powder to get in a kid, Sam was tiny then, I

beleive

> there may be corn starch - or there used to be so check that first.

>

> It has to be shppped overnight on lots of ice and isn't really any

good if

> it melts as I recall.

>

> I like CP1 from Custom probiotocs - guarenteed to have 25 bill CFU's

after

> being at room temp for 3 weeks on testing - I have copy of lastest

analysis -

> when there were still 48 bill CFU's

>

> HTH - going from memory

>

> Mandi x

>

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Hi Darla

I use it for Joe. It was recommended when we looked at the low

oxalates diet. I bought one pack of 10 sachets from a distributor in

Holland (or maybe Belgium). I can look out the details for you if you

would like them. I had to order over the phone if I remember rightly.

I only use a tiny fraction of the recommended dose, as per the low

oxalates group recommendations. It seems to suit him though I havent

tested since we started using it. I will be ordering more soon as my

pack has an August use by date. I think it is strong stuff hence we

only use a tiny amount.

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In a message dated 30/07/2006 10:36:55 GMT Standard Time, Mum231ASD@... writes:

>>>We used it when it first came out - ring them up and give them sob story they might send you some - they did me - 10 packets

My sob storying is hopeless. Honestly, it is. I am soooo baaaaad at soliciting for free stuff or money raising. If I did a sponsored walk or something the only person I'd ask to sponsor me would be my hubby. I'm just constitutionally incapable. I even felt bad for asking the bloody GP for a prescription for 's much needed milk. I've got to get over myself, really I do. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Its a HUGE amount of powder to get in a kid, Sam was tiny then, I beleive there may be corn starch - or there used to be so check that first.

Yes, there is corn starch. As of yet I don't see a particular reaction to corn. Yet.

I like CP1 from Custom probiotocs - guarenteed to have 25 bill CFU's after being at room temp for 3 weeks on testing - I have copy of lastest analysis - when there were still 48 bill CFU's

The VSL says 450 billion CFU's per sachet. I'm assuming the sachets are quite voluminous?

I'm noticing that is getting somewhat constipated on the Klaire Ther-Biotics 1 capsule per day and the Bio-Kult 1 capsule per day. I've no idea how potent the Bio-Kult is as the stupid bottle measures it per gram of powder. So maybe I don't need the VSL yet. I've got to stick it out with the Klaire for a while and see if his stools normalise (whatever that is) over the next few days.

The Klaire is 25 bill CFU's so the CP1 is obviously more potent. Is there a difference in the potentcy versus giving less potent at higher doses? (I think I'm making this more complicated than it is, no?)

Darla

London

DH Boban

DS 2 years 2 months

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In a message dated 31/07/2006 00:02:39 GMT Standard Time, charmanhome@... writes:

Hi DarlaI use it for Joe. It was recommended when we looked at the low oxalates diet. I bought one pack of 10 sachets from a distributor in Holland (or maybe Belgium). I can look out the details for you if you would like them. I had to order over the phone if I remember rightly. I only use a tiny fraction of the recommended dose, as per the low oxalates group recommendations. It seems to suit him though I havent tested since we started using it. I will be ordering more soon as my pack has an August use by date. I think it is strong stuff hence we only use a tiny amount.

Hi ,

Can you let me know where you order it from? I'd really appreciate it. I'll tuck it away for later. How long does a pack last you and how old/big is your little one?

Thanks so much!

Darla

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Hi ,

I'm not Darla, but I'd like details.

Emma

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> Hi Darla

> I use it for Joe. It was recommended when we looked at the low

> oxalates diet. I bought one pack of 10 sachets from a distributor

in

> Holland (or maybe Belgium). I can look out the details for you if

you

> would like them. I had to order over the phone if I remember

rightly.

> I only use a tiny fraction of the recommended dose, as per the low

> oxalates group recommendations. It seems to suit him though I

havent

> tested since we started using it. I will be ordering more soon as

my

> pack has an August use by date. I think it is strong stuff hence

we

> only use a tiny amount.

>

>

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In a message dated 03/08/2006 09:47:08 GMT Daylight Time, charmanhome@... writes:

VSL#3® will be send by regular mail

>>>>Wow - when I used it they practically wnated to send it in the refridgerator - I wonder why now it can come by regualr post???

Mandi x

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Freeze dried bacteria should in theory re-constitute to fullpotency (or maybe they factor in the die off) so shouldnt need to be refrigerated so maybe thats why... Some organisms dont freeze dry well so maybe thats why they come cool, just my tuppence worth lovely.

must try this again wason my to do list when we were seriously LODing, but have been reading this LOD stuff again and its so sensible and beckys peeing is so much better so now thinking mmmmm well maybe it did work...

Shallkeep ya posted.

Luv C

xxx

PS am reading that LOD diet book again shallpost it to you soon, 4 sure!!!!

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Hi Darla and Emma

Here is the email I received when I contacted the company

We received your request for VSL#3®. VSL#3 is not available directly

in the UK since there's no distributor yet. You can order VSL#3® by

e-mailing us (order@...) and we will handle your order

within 48 hours maximum.

The price for one package is: EUR 18,63 (ex. 6% VAT), EUR 19,75 (VAT

included). For the first order there is no minimum ordering

quantity. For every order that follows there is a minimum of 4 packs.

VSL#3® will be send by regular mail. The transport will take about 3-

5 days on average.

When you haven't received your VSL#3® 7 days after you have placed

an order, please let us know.

The shipping costs are (ex. 19% VAT): 0-2 kg EUR 16,50 (1-20 packs

of VSL#3), 2-5 k g EUR 21,25.

(It is also possible to send it with a courier, but the costs are

higher).

One pack of VSL#3® weighs 44 grams. The measures are: 11 x 8,5 x 2

cm. Each pack contains 10 sachets. Dosage for adults, based on stool

frequency:

BOWEL MOVEMENTS NO. OF SACHETS

LESS THAN 5: 1 TO 2

5 TO 8: 2 TO 3

MORE THAN 8: 3 TO 4

You will receive an invoice which you can pay by bank transfer or

MasterCard (not Visa).

We do ask all our new customers to pay the first time in advance.

VSL#3® must be stored in the refrigerator, not in the deep freezer.

VSL#3® can stay out of the refrigerator, at room temperature and

protected from direct sunlight, for 7-10 days. It will still be

stable.

Please let me know by e-mail if you want to order and how much you

want to order and the way you want us to ship it. Would you be so

kind to mention also your shipping address and phone number.

-- How long does a pack last you and how old/big is

> your little one?

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Joe is a very big 7 year old. We use a tiny amount, a sprinkling in

his water every morning. One sachet lasts about a month. Maybe I'm

not using enough. I have lots left over which are going to go out

of date. They are stamped Aug 2006 but I don't know whether you have

to use by beginning or end of August. If you want to try it I can

post you a sachet? Send me your address off list if this is of use

to you.

Joe has a problem with corn but can tolerate this, I think because

it is in such small amounts.

HTH