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This is specifically directed for but certainly anyone

following WD could answer.

I'm curious as to your post workout eating and your workout

objectives. Reason I ask is typically one who trains regularly

will " feed " either during or post workout and I'm curious what your

experience has been with this while simultaneously undereating.

DMM

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:37:50 -0000

" Dr. Marasco " <mmarasco@...> wrote:

> This is specifically directed for but certainly anyone

> following WD could answer.

>

> I'm curious as to your post workout eating and your workout

> objectives. Reason I ask is typically one who trains regularly

> will " feed " either during or post workout and I'm curious what your

> experience has been with this while simultaneously undereating.

>

> DMM

DMM,

When I first started out on the WD I would sip on kefir smoothies (kefir,

eggs, and berries) as a post workout meal. These items are allowed on the

WD as a part of the adaptation phase (although he doesn't recommend

mixing proteins). Also, as I glance through the book, Ori has different

recommendations for those who are very physically active or professional

athletes as opposed to just weekend warriors.

For me though I think I can get by with some fruit or maybe a little

green juice, since I have worked out for days at at time just fasting

with no ill effects and no disruption of progress. So I will be

experimenting.

He is in no way anti-carb and recommends that those who aren't lay folks

when it comes to training consume small portions during the day (beyond

fruit and veggies) like ancient warriors did (according to him).

He is also big on undenatured whey so if I can make my homemade stuff palatable

I will start sipping on that after a workout.

One thing I am noticing about the WD is that it is extremely flexible

and adaptable, based on a person's particular needs. For example, the

feasting/fasting cycle can be broadened out to full days of both,

instead of the daily feasting/fasting cycle, which fits nearly to a " T "

how I was eating before the WD.

And he allows all kinds of room for gradually adopting his approach and

even leaves room for going off the " diet " if you have too. So he appears

to be a man operating in real life rather than doggedly stuck to some

program.

As for my objectives, these days I am an Olympic Lifter. That is I train

to do the clean and jerk and the snatch. I do it solely for fun,

athleticism, and functional strength.

To me, OL is strength training par excellence. I was skeptical at first

as the guy who eventually became my trainer was raving about what

wonders it would do for my strength and my physique (in terms of

leanness). He had a serious disdain for bodybuilding and body builders. He

told me that Olympic lifters are not only the strongest athletes in the

world, but were measured second only to gymnasts in flexibility. Right.

Sure

Then a saw a video of a huge guy doing a full split and jumping about 40

inches off the ground. Well, as a life long b-baller, that certainly got

my attention!!

And I watched one of Darin's clients workout one day. He was lifting

these huge weights overhead. He couldn't have weighed more than a buck

fifty (turns out he weighed 165). But he was very lean, very muscular,

and very strong. And Darin's wife was a serious OL as well, all in a

very feminine package.

My first workout was a revelation. I could only get half way through it.

Seems you need a lot of flexibility to do the two movements. I was the

tightest guy, according to Darin, he had ever trained. It was some

serious humble pie.

Any weight training movements I do now are designed to assist me with

these two movements. The only bodyshaping/bodybuilding movements I do

today are simply for vanity's sake.

I also still play basketball competitively, and Olympic lifting has

stretched out my playing days (even enabling me to dunk again) but work

really gets in the way of that. I have been trying to switch to crew as

my other sport of choice but those early mornings on the water, while

beautiful, are a bear after a late night of work.

Since I have adopted the adopted the WD, I have gotten much leaner, I

have had some strength gains, and I have gained all kinds of free time

during the day, much like when I am normally fasting.

Long winded, but I hope I answered your questions.

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Thanks much . I'm waiting on its arrival, would you mind

posting just one of his recommendations say for a professional

athlete post workout?

THankks.DMM

>

> > This is specifically directed for but certainly anyone

> > following WD could answer.

> >

> > I'm curious as to your post workout eating and your workout

> > objectives. Reason I ask is typically one who trains regularly

> > will " feed " either during or post workout and I'm curious what

your

> > experience has been with this while simultaneously undereating.

> >

> > DMM

>

> DMM,

>

>

> When I first started out on the WD I would sip on kefir smoothies

(kefir,

> eggs, and berries) as a post workout meal. These items are allowed

on the

> WD as a part of the adaptation phase (although he doesn't recommend

> mixing proteins). Also, as I glance through the book, Ori has

different

> recommendations for those who are very physically active or

professional

> athletes as opposed to just weekend warriors.

>

> For me though I think I can get by with some fruit or maybe a

little

> green juice, since I have worked out for days at at time just

fasting

> with no ill effects and no disruption of progress. So I will be

> experimenting.

>

> He is in no way anti-carb and recommends that those who aren't lay

folks

> when it comes to training consume small portions during the day

(beyond

> fruit and veggies) like ancient warriors did (according to him).

>

> He is also big on undenatured whey so if I can make my homemade

stuff palatable

> I will start sipping on that after a workout.

>

> One thing I am noticing about the WD is that it is extremely

flexible

> and adaptable, based on a person's particular needs. For example,

the

> feasting/fasting cycle can be broadened out to full days of both,

> instead of the daily feasting/fasting cycle, which fits nearly to

a " T "

> how I was eating before the WD.

>

> And he allows all kinds of room for gradually adopting his

approach and

> even leaves room for going off the " diet " if you have too. So he

appears

> to be a man operating in real life rather than doggedly stuck to

some

> program.

>

> As for my objectives, these days I am an Olympic Lifter. That is I

train

> to do the clean and jerk and the snatch. I do it solely for fun,

> athleticism, and functional strength.

>

> To me, OL is strength training par excellence. I was skeptical at

first

> as the guy who eventually became my trainer was raving about what

> wonders it would do for my strength and my physique (in terms of

> leanness). He had a serious disdain for bodybuilding and body

builders. He

> told me that Olympic lifters are not only the strongest athletes

in the

> world, but were measured second only to gymnasts in flexibility.

Right.

> Sure

>

> Then a saw a video of a huge guy doing a full split and jumping

about 40

> inches off the ground. Well, as a life long b-baller, that

certainly got

> my attention!!

>

> And I watched one of Darin's clients workout one day. He was

lifting

> these huge weights overhead. He couldn't have weighed more than a

buck

> fifty (turns out he weighed 165). But he was very lean, very

muscular,

> and very strong. And Darin's wife was a serious OL as well, all in

a

> very feminine package.

>

> My first workout was a revelation. I could only get half way

through it.

> Seems you need a lot of flexibility to do the two movements. I was

the

> tightest guy, according to Darin, he had ever trained. It was some

> serious humble pie.

>

> Any weight training movements I do now are designed to assist me

with

> these two movements. The only bodyshaping/bodybuilding movements I

do

> today are simply for vanity's sake.

>

> I also still play basketball competitively, and Olympic lifting has

> stretched out my playing days (even enabling me to dunk again) but

work

> really gets in the way of that. I have been trying to switch to

crew as

> my other sport of choice but those early mornings on the water,

while

> beautiful, are a bear after a late night of work.

>

> Since I have adopted the adopted the WD, I have gotten much

leaner, I

> have had some strength gains, and I have gained all kinds of free

time

> during the day, much like when I am normally fasting.

>

> Long winded, but I hope I answered your questions.

>

>

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 23:49:08 -0000

" Dr. Marasco " <mmarasco@...> wrote:

> Thanks much . I'm waiting on its arrival, would you mind

> posting just one of his recommendations say for a professional

> athlete post workout?

> THankks.DMM

>

DMM,

Here you go...

" For professional athletes and others who engage in intense vigorous

physical activities during the day, and burn thousands of calories, it

may be necessary to consume more food during the day to satisfy

high-calorie demands, and to spare muscle breakdown. In these

circumstances, its okay to have a light carbohydrate meal during the day

(such as oatmeal and eggs, rice and eggs, rice soup, or barley soup).

However, if your goal is to lose body fat, minimize the amount of

carbohydrates during the day, and have a light protein meal, preferably

Warrior Growth Serum or Warrior Milk. "

As far as post workout meals, as best as I can tell (not finished with

the book yet) he recommends his own Warrior Milk and his Warrior Growth

Serum. Both are considered protein meals.

Warrior Milk - " a proprietary blend of undenatured, specially processed

whey protein with growth serum. "

Warrior Growth Serum - " a blend of undenatured air-dried colostrum

produced from organically fed, drug free, healthy cows, with other

nutrients, such as grade A inulin and CLA, which support the metabolic

system. "

Hope this helps,

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