Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 Yes, i read a book on unassisted childbirth where the author's husband lactated and nursed their baby. I think it was also featured on a tv show called Extreme Animals, but i'm not sure about the tv show. They argued it was totally natural and a good backup system for mom. Elaine -- Natural parenting products for conception through weaning: www.uniquebabyboutique.com/?elainefawcett > From: Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> > Reply- > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:59:32 -0700 > > Subject: Re: Re: cellulite > > >> Men can lactate too with enough nipple stimulation. >> Elaine >> -- > > ROTFL! And someone has done this ... ? > > Now THAT is unnatural! > > My mind is generating many pictures ... > > -- Heidi > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 or it could be called getting older? elane -- Natural parenting products for conception through weaning: www.uniquebabyboutique.com/?elainefawcett > From: " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...> > Reply- > Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:58:44 -0400 > < > > Subject: RE: Re: cellulite > >>>>>> For what it is worth, it seems " cellulite " has to do with the kind of > connective > tissue and the kind of fat, > > ----->yes, i've started taking vitamin C for that reason, and other stuff to > support connective tissue. > >>>> And of course connective tissue problems are also related to > gluten problems ... at least they seem to be. And since estrogen production > may be related to gluten ingestion, and fat deposits seem to be a lot > different in women than in men (below), and cellulite seems to be a > modern problem ... > > ------->i would guess that would be the case in *some* cases, but not all, > of course. generally my gluten intake is tiny. i *think* my cellulite > increased this past winter when i gained 10 lbs. at a time when i ate a LOT > of animal fats. i have no idea if i just didn't notice it before or not. but > there seemed to be connection to my diet - mostly low carb, high fat, high > protein. i think it could be connected to some type of hormonal shift > brought on by dietary changes..? it could have to do with the *quality* of > my food rather than composition, though. although i honestly have no idea - > i eat meat/fat from primarily pasture-fed livestock from local farms. > > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 >------->i would guess that would be the case in *some* cases, but not all, >of course. generally my gluten intake is tiny. i *think* my cellulite >increased this past winter when i gained 10 lbs. at a time when i ate a LOT >of animal fats. i have no idea if i just didn't notice it before or not. but >there seemed to be connection to my diet - mostly low carb, high fat, high >protein. i think it could be connected to some type of hormonal shift >brought on by dietary changes..? it could have to do with the *quality* of >my food rather than composition, though. although i honestly have no idea - >i eat meat/fat from primarily pasture-fed livestock from local farms. What I've read is basically that it *shows up* when the fat cells expand ... which would fit with gaining 10 lbs. Might have to do with the type of fat too -- saturated fat is more solid in the body. But if the connective tissue is smooth, the fat cells can expand and not show up as " bumps " -- and hormones *obviously* have to do with it because guys don't get cellulite much, even fat guys. Actually I've noticed that people who have fat, say, on their upper arms don't get cellulite there, which is a good argument for the difference being in the connective tissue. But I wouldn't think the connective tissue would change that much in a year on a good diet ... more likely the fat cells are just plumper at the moment. Seems like when I joined this group you were complaining you were losing weight and couldn't gain ... sheeesh girl, make up your mind! ;-p I don't know all the variables in connective tissue, but I'm very interested in them because I have a mess of connective tissue problems and so do my kids and mother. Connective tissue issues seem to be a combo of diet and genes, and if you have connective tissue problems it causes a lot of the " Price " kind of symptoms (besides cellulite!) -- bad eyesight, narrow palate, thin face -- so there might be some kind of overlap. The one dietary connection I've read about would be the gluten one (because that's what I've been reading about!) but no one has seemingly done much research on FIXING connective tissue, or whether it will change if your diet changes once it is laid down. Seems like it might, since we have folks here that even have facial changes as adults. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 Yup, and there are herbs which will help bring this about as well. On 19 Aug 2003 22:55:44 -0700 " Elaine " <itchyink@...> wrote: > Men can lactate too with enough nipple stimulation. > Elaine > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:50:14 -0400 " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...> wrote: > >>>>Well I did ask you to email me privately <ROFL>. Seriously, before and > after pics sound like a good idea. I did that when I was first working > on my thinning hair and it was quite inspirational. > > ------>well gee, i can " cc " you, if you really want it private! LOL but > since others seem interested too, i might as well post it to the board. but > no pix! LOL No no I was joking about privately emailing the pics not the posts, LOL! Oh well, I guess the humorous moment has been lost :-) > > did you post your hair thickening protocol to this board, or to beyondprice? > i seem to vaguely remember that, and i'd like to read it again. Hmmmm....can't remember, but I will post anew here.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2003 Report Share Posted August 20, 2003 > ------>well gee, i can " cc " you, if you really want it private! LOL but > since others seem interested too, i might as well post it to the board. but > no pix! LOL >>No no I was joking about privately emailing the pics not the posts, LOL! Oh well, I guess the humorous moment has been lost :-) -------->aw shucks...where is my head? Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 In a message dated 8/21/03 2:20:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jopollack2001@... writes: > The fat that is stored around a woman's hips and thighs is used for > breastfeeding - that's why any excess weight there is so hard to > lose. As it happens, that is also the place we get cellulite. > However, it is posible to have fat there and no cellulite, and also > possible to have very little fat and all of it cellulite! IMO the > cellulite is not there for the breastfeeding! Too bad nature didn't pick the seemingly more logical mechanism of storing fat for breastfeeding in the *breasts* huh? lol... Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 >All of this yet I still gained tons of cellulite when I started >menopause, not only in my upper thighs and buttocks, but my arms >too. My diet didn't change, nor did my activity level. I'm >constantly on the move here. Ah yes, those d@mned hormones! > Yet, when I started consuming raw, organic, cultured butter the cellulite all but disappeared in about 3 months time. There's something to this - I'm living proof! I just wish I knew what it was. > Janet > I will remember that when I get cellulite! Interestingly a friend of mine who is slim, but is on the Pill, can't shift her cellulite but read somewhere that the Pill can cause cellulite - she decided to stay on the Pill and put up with the lumps and bumps. So, it does seem it's hormone related. Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 > Just because it was such a good laugh. Not a disparaging one, that's just > funny. The fat that is stored around a woman's hips and thighs is used for breastfeeding - that's why any excess weight there is so hard to lose. As it happens, that is also the place we get cellulite. However, it is posible to have fat there and no cellulite, and also possible to have very little fat and all of it cellulite! IMO the cellulite is not there for the breastfeeding! Jo PS: does that make sense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 , Many women have cellulite because they lack muscle. I have seen so many THIN young girls that had cellulite on their legs. They simply had no muscle to spread the fat out! Women need fat on them, but to be " toned " they need muscle to spread it out and look attractive. Getting rid of cellulite gennerally is losing body fat and gaining muscle. Gaining muscle has the wonderful benefit of spreading fat out, and also making you more firm. Lifting weights, doing interval training, and ditching anything like spinning classes or long cardio. Bee's candida diet can absolutely help. The coconut oil can help you lose fat, while the low carbs helps shed off extra weight (water AND fat). The high level of cod liver oil also helps with fat loss. If you can't lose fat due to liver, adrenals, and intestinal health, then this diet will help a lot. This type of diet makes it difficult to gain a lot of muscle, but you definitely can especially if you're pretty new to weight training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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