Re: intestinal reaction to whey

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Michele

There is much talk lately about taking whey supplements. Supplements are

sometimes beneficial and sometimes detrimental. There is no longer any

doubt in my mind about the value of whey ( and curds). I have not taken

any whey supplements for 2 years. For a fraction of the cost of

supplements, I have been producing MY OWN whey ( & curds).

Why worry about the supposed potency of an expensive supplement when you

can produce a better product yourself? The whole organism that makes up

curds and whey is just that, a complete organism. To separate and process

it almost guarantees loss of value.

Produce it youself by obtaining the culture from a variety of sources.

Mine is a culture called PIIMA. Send $5 to: PIIMA PO Box 2614, La Mesa,

Ca. 91943-2614.

Another source of the beneficial compounds in fermented dairy products is

kefir. Produce your own kefir by doing a web search on the topic.

Corny

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Michele Wald

<michele.c@...> writes:

> I know glutathione is great for liver, but when I tried even taking a

> tsp of

> whey (whey to go by Solgar)a few different days I had a terrible

> inflammation occur in my intestines that lasted all day...obviously

> cannot

> tolerate it even though is good for most bodies. I do take NAC

> sustained

> release and do okay with that, 1200 mg/day/ Also take 2 tsp of

> colostrum

> per day which is great. Any other suggestions for glutathione

> supplementation? I hate to invest in the immuneproRX and have

> reaction.

> Anyone else have this type of response to whey based products? Any

> suggestions. Does taking glutathione by itself work as well as

> taking

> precursors to it? Thanks for any help

> Michele

>

>

>

>

> > << " Glutathione deficiency has two major implications: detox

> failure and

> > viral/microbial activation. Glutathione plays a major role in

> > detoxification pathways. This deficiency impairs the body's

> ability

> > to get rid of toxins, whether environmental or by-products of

> > cellular metabolism. CFS patients slowly become toxic, storing

> away

> > poisons in fatty tissue, muscles, organs and the brain. This

> cellular

> > detox failure can make CFS patients " canaries to their

> environment " .

> > Detox programs that have been successful in other conditions can

> > actually put some CFS patients in the hospital if their

> glutathione

> > deficiency is not first addressed. " >>

> >

> >

> > Hi Ron;

> >

> > I've got a book going " The GSH Phenomenon " by Alan H. Pressman

> right now

> > that deals with exactly that. Where in some territory I contest

> his

> > opinions, he's right on with the prime topic.

> >

> > I've also read the Immunocal book by Dr. Bounous....and I agree

> that if

> you

> > can only afford one supplement, it should be a cystine donor like

> Immunocal,

> > (or Immune Pro Rx) or even glutathione itself.

> >

> > Some people report immediate energy gains because with a ready

> source of

> > cystine for glutathione production, the body is not so encumbered

> with

> > toxins and viral load. A little gltathione production goes a

> looonnng

> way. I

> > would add l-glutamine or Immune Pro covalent-bonded glutamine for

> better

> > production. www.immunepro.com

> >

> > ciao

> >

> > Duncan Crow

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/8/2001 8:11:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

michele.c@... writes:

> I had a terrible

> inflammation occur in my intestines that lasted all day

when i started taking the solgar whey powder the same thing happened to me.

it was a nasty parasite dying off. so i continued with the whey for a while.

now i take raw goat milk, and get a similar strengthening effect but it is

much gentler and feels more natural

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Luck

Isn't it interesting how whole foods solve the problems while supplements

(partial foods) often don't !

For the most part, we have been sold a bill of goods regarding the value

of supplements. Once we learn the value of whole, raw foods and WHICH

foods we really need to be healthy, then many of our problems will be

history.

Corny

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:05:53 EDT luckower@... writes:

> In a message dated 8/8/2001 8:11:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> michele.c@... writes:

>

> > I had a terrible

> > inflammation occur in my intestines that lasted all day

>

> when i started taking the solgar whey powder the same thing happened

> to me.

> it was a nasty parasite dying off. so i continued with the whey for

> a while.

> now i take raw goat milk, and get a similar strengthening effect but

> it is

> much gentler and feels more natural

>

>

[Guest guest]

Other info of interest concerning glutathione.

ron

http://www.cfsn.com/letter.html

[Guest guest]

Milk Thistle is supposed to have it or release it. ???

Donna

-----Original Message-----

I know glutathione is great for liver, but when I tried even taking a tsp of

whey (whey to go by Solgar)a few different days I had a terrible

inflammation occur in my intestines that lasted all day...obviously cannot

tolerate it even though is good for most bodies. I do take NAC sustained

release and do okay with that, 1200 mg/day/ Also take 2 tsp of colostrum

per day which is great. Any other suggestions for glutathione

supplementation? I hate to invest in the immuneproRX and have reaction.

Anyone else have this type of response to whey based products? Any

suggestions. Does taking glutathione by itself work as well as taking

precursors to it? Thanks for any help

Michele

[Guest guest]

Hi ;

The third part of glutathione you may need to supplement is l-glutamine.

OR perhaps covalent-bonded glutamine from www.immunepro.com

Soothes the small intestine.

ciao

Duncan

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[Guest guest]

Corny,

Not only are you giving good advice, " making your own " is the kind of

food lifestyle we have to get back to if we want true health.

Supplements are a crutch, no real alternative to the right food, and

like all crutches, they are either temporary, or you are crippled.

But, I'm going to buy my meat & colostrum! ;-)

jim

Mike E Cornwall wrote:

>

> Michele

> There is much talk lately about taking whey supplements. Supplements are

> sometimes beneficial and sometimes detrimental. There is no longer any

> doubt in my mind about the value of whey ( and curds). I have not taken

> any whey supplements for 2 years. For a fraction of the cost of

> supplements, I have been producing MY OWN whey ( & curds).

>

> Why worry about the supposed potency of an expensive supplement when you

> can produce a better product yourself? The whole organism that makes up

> curds and whey is just that, a complete organism. To separate and process

> it almost guarantees loss of value.

>

> Produce it youself by obtaining the culture from a variety of sources.

> Mine is a culture called PIIMA. Send $5 to: PIIMA PO Box 2614, La Mesa,

> Ca. 91943-2614.

>

> Another source of the beneficial compounds in fermented dairy products is

> kefir. Produce your own kefir by doing a web search on the topic.

>

> Corny

>

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[Guest guest]

Michele,

If you're taking glutathione for the liver, it needs a few minerals also

for each molecule of glutathione, depending on what is being detoxed.

So, a really good mineral supplement should be a part of the glutathione

regimen.

jim

Michele Wald wrote:

>

> I know glutathione is great for liver, but when I tried even taking a tsp of

> whey (whey to go by Solgar)a few different days I had a terrible

> inflammation occur in my intestines that lasted all day...obviously cannot

> tolerate it even though is good for most bodies. I do take NAC sustained

> release and do okay with that, 1200 mg/day/ Also take 2 tsp of colostrum

> per day which is great. Any other suggestions for glutathione

> supplementation? I hate to invest in the immuneproRX and have reaction.

> Anyone else have this type of response to whey based products? Any

> suggestions. Does taking glutathione by itself work as well as taking

> precursors to it? Thanks for any help

> Michele

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-- anon

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