Re: Re: Amen to this post!

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clearview acres <clearvu@...> wrote:Hi Folks...

There is the psychological side of all this to consider.

I am not a psychologist it is my only observations of the past.

We all have to hit bottom at some point, the reason why is individual to

everybody as well as the means of how they achieve it.

I have seen people hit bottom with the bottle, anorexia, bolemia, tragic

business decisions, endless horrible relationships, cancer, multiple

operations ect.....

I do think the current state of nutrition in this country has an effect

on people to the extent we can no longer listen to our own bodies and

know what is good for ourselves yet our bodies will do its best to

inform us even if it has to go under the knife to do so.

Yes some never hear it and drop through the bottom of this existence, I

surely believe they will get the picture on the other side.

All I can say is I know how hard it is to deal with the sight of your

own family members disintegrate before your eyes no matter how much you

tell them, or offer them an alternative.

They can not see it and will not see it until there own beliefs have

been verified from the bottom of the pit.

Just be there when they return, or wish them well if they don't, those

at the bottom often reach, for those closest when approaching it , don't

get caught yourself.

I don't mean to sound cold, it is how I see it.

Tim

blaidd2@... wrote:

> Jafa,

>

> I don't know what to do. Maybe I should explain more.

>

> My mom is a bit... well, mentally embalanced. And when I freak her

> out,

> by sending her posts like yours, she takes it out on my Dad, who then

> takes it out on me... and well, argh. My only hope is that my diet

> convinces her that it CAN be done without surgery but this isn't a

> quick

> weight loss plan. =( I can feel my clothes are loser but I have no

> numbers to give her, no statistics, no scientific studies... not that

> she'd

> listen. She'll stay mad at me for months, and I am not exaggerating

> and

> Dad will be angry with me for making his life miserable.

>

> I'm a VERY poor college kid, and couldn't even afford real groceries.

> I

> was scraping by but still having to fill up on carbs because we

> couldn't

> afford much protein or veggies. ($40 a week for groceries for 2

> people).

> My fiance is finally getting a promotion with a real paycheck so

> things are

> going to be better, and my father helped me start my diet early by

> giving

> me money every week and paying for supplements/probiotics/kombucha

> mushroom etc. And thanks to some nice people (Dom!) I got my kefir

> grains for free, well, I'll pay him back later.

>

> Back to my mom, she's convinced she's dying (and well she is). She's

> 48, has type II diabetes with her blood sugar out of control (because

> she

> binges on sugar and carbs), drinks diet cokes like they were water,

> aprox

> 100 ounces or more a day... which of course makes her eye site worse -

>

> which she thinks is ALL the diabetes - AND makes her crave carbs. So,

> I

> could lose her in a year if she doesn't do something, or in 5 to 10

> years if

> she does th gastric bypass. Either way, I'll feel responsible. So,

> anyone

> have any bright ideas? =(

>

> I've sent her every site on aspartame I can, nothing. Sent her every

> site

> like WAP, and TONS of other stuff my friend (who got me started on

> this)

> has sent me over the last few years... nothing. " I can't do that,

> Dawn. " " I

> can't give up soda " , I can't I can't I can't. And now my sister calls

> me a

> fanatic (she's like my mom, and now drinking soy milk after all I've

> shown

> her).

>

> What's a daughter to do??

>

> Dawn

>

> > Dawn,

> >

> > You have got to stop your mom. There are so many complications. I

> > friend's mom got it done after I met her. She feels like the food

> is

> > always stuck in her esophagus and has to throw up just about every

> > meal she eats to relieve the feeling. Just about the only thing she

>

> > can keep down are liquids, but not all. She still eats junk foods,

> > mainly in the way of soft drinks and ice cream and soft candy. She

> > has developed a hernia from all the vomiting and must have another

> > operation for that. And there are no guarantees she won't get

> another

> > hernia, if she continues vomiting. You can just imagine what this

> is

> > doing to her teeth. She has lost about 90 pds. but is on her way

> to

> > being malnourished, weak, fatigued and very sick.

> >

> > I know it works for many people, but it sure didn't work for her.

> And

> > it is non reversible!!! Maybe you could show this to your mom.

> >

> > Jafa

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