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In a message dated 8/12/01 12:49:26 AM, mmgg@... writes:

<< Here is a quote from a newsletter I get on IP-6. >>

Thanks Gail! I am leaning toward IP-6 and trying to get all the information I

can

about it...This really helps.

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Dorothy, FYI: Vitamine Shoppe sells the Cellforte IP6

much cheaper than I can get from my local health food

store.

Joy

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> Thanks Gail! I am leaning toward IP-6 and trying to

> get all the information I

> can

> about it...This really helps.

>

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In a message dated 8/12/01 5:02:39 PM, petra_joy@... writes:

<< Dorothy, FYI: Vitamine Shoppe sells the Cellforte IP6

much cheaper than I can get from my local health food

store. >>

Thanks! Are you taking it now? how do you feel about it?

dorothy

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In a message dated 8/12/01 5:02:39 PM, petra_joy@... writes:

<< Dorothy, FYI: Vitamine Shoppe sells the Cellforte IP6

much cheaper than I can get from my local health food

store. >>

Thanks! Are you taking it now? how do you feel about it?

dorothy

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In a message dated 8/13/01 1:27:33 PM, petra_joy@... writes:

<< I started taking it a few weeks ago when I was

diagnosed with lymph pockets in my breast.

The cellforte IP-6 (by enzymatic therapy)has inositol

with it and is the only product endorsed by

Shamsuddin. >>

Thanks, this is very helpful. If I had a great deal of money I would

probably do

MGN-3 but it looks as though it would be so expensive that I couldn't keep it

up for a long time and have no idea if you take it for life or What? So, at

this

point I am about ready to order the CellForte and get started. Whatever I do,

I will not be another victim of chemotherapy.

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In a message dated 8/13/01 1:27:33 PM, petra_joy@... writes:

<< I started taking it a few weeks ago when I was

diagnosed with lymph pockets in my breast.

The cellforte IP-6 (by enzymatic therapy)has inositol

with it and is the only product endorsed by

Shamsuddin. >>

Thanks, this is very helpful. If I had a great deal of money I would

probably do

MGN-3 but it looks as though it would be so expensive that I couldn't keep it

up for a long time and have no idea if you take it for life or What? So, at

this

point I am about ready to order the CellForte and get started. Whatever I do,

I will not be another victim of chemotherapy.

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I started taking it a few weeks ago when I was

diagnosed with lymph pockets in my breast.

The cellforte IP-6 (by enzymatic therapy)has inositol

with it and is the only product endorsed by

Shamsuddin. The directions say to take 2 capsules

twice a day on an empty stomach, but I'm sure I read

somewhere that if you have cancer you should up the

dosage to 9 capsules. Maybe someone else on the list

has more specific information. I haven't tried the

MGN-3, but am looking into it as I can now feel a lump

where the so-called pocket was. I will also be

increasing my IP6. Chemotherapy is not something I

will consider. My mother had chemotherapy. At first

they said the chemo had gotten rid of almost all of

the cancer in her lungs. She was so happy, as were we

all. But then it metastisized to her brain and she

died shortly after. A gentleman here where I work was

recently diagnosed with leukemia. He took the chemo

treatments and apparently felt great afterward. He

came back to work, got sick immediately and is in the

hospital with severe infections. Chemo destroys the

immune system.

Keep us posted on your progress,

Joy

--- dbates3809@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 8/12/01 5:02:39 PM,

> petra_joy@... writes:

>

> << Dorothy, FYI: Vitamine Shoppe sells the Cellforte

> IP6

> much cheaper than I can get from my local health

> food

> store. >>

>

> Thanks! Are you taking it now? how do you feel

> about it?

> dorothy

>

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I started taking it a few weeks ago when I was

diagnosed with lymph pockets in my breast.

The cellforte IP-6 (by enzymatic therapy)has inositol

with it and is the only product endorsed by

Shamsuddin. The directions say to take 2 capsules

twice a day on an empty stomach, but I'm sure I read

somewhere that if you have cancer you should up the

dosage to 9 capsules. Maybe someone else on the list

has more specific information. I haven't tried the

MGN-3, but am looking into it as I can now feel a lump

where the so-called pocket was. I will also be

increasing my IP6. Chemotherapy is not something I

will consider. My mother had chemotherapy. At first

they said the chemo had gotten rid of almost all of

the cancer in her lungs. She was so happy, as were we

all. But then it metastisized to her brain and she

died shortly after. A gentleman here where I work was

recently diagnosed with leukemia. He took the chemo

treatments and apparently felt great afterward. He

came back to work, got sick immediately and is in the

hospital with severe infections. Chemo destroys the

immune system.

Keep us posted on your progress,

Joy

--- dbates3809@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 8/12/01 5:02:39 PM,

> petra_joy@... writes:

>

> << Dorothy, FYI: Vitamine Shoppe sells the Cellforte

> IP6

> much cheaper than I can get from my local health

> food

> store. >>

>

> Thanks! Are you taking it now? how do you feel

> about it?

> dorothy

>

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Amen, Gail. And, Dorothy, I do not remember where I read it, but IP-6 is more

effective with breast cancer than some other products, so, if it was me, I would

being doing ip-6 in addition to mgn-3, if I could afford it.

Donna

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Hi Dorthy,

Here is a quote from a newsletter I get on IP-6.

Gail

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Amen, Gail. And, Dorothy, I do not remember where I read it, but IP-6 is more

effective with breast cancer than some other products, so, if it was me, I would

being doing ip-6 in addition to mgn-3, if I could afford it.

Donna

----- Original Message -----

Hi Dorthy,

Here is a quote from a newsletter I get on IP-6.

Gail

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

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In a message dated 8/13/01 6:13:01 PM, ruthful@... writes:

<< If you get it from vita health it is only $42 and you need a bottle every

five days for the first few weeks and then after that a bottle for every 20

days or so, so it really isn't too expensive. If you are paying regular

retail it is $69.95 and that is a little more pricey. >>

Well, that I could do! but do you know if it has to be continued for a long

time,

or for life, or what? I haven't been able to find information on how much to

take

and for how long. But this is extremely encouraging!

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If you get it from vita health it is only $42 and you need a bottle every five

days for the first few weeks and then after that a bottle for every 20 days or

so, so it really isn't too expensive. If you are paying regular retail it is

$69.95 and that is a little more pricey.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Thanks, this is very helpful. If I had a great deal of money I would

probably do

MGN-3 but it looks as though it would be so expensive that I couldn't keep

it

up for a long time and have no idea if you take it for life or What? So, at

this

point I am about ready to order the CellForte and get started. Whatever I

do,

I will not be another victim of chemotherapy.

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For breast cancer you need to take everything.

MGN-3

IP-6

CoQ10

Selenium

Vitamin D

Coral Calcium

Ellagic Acid

Lipoic Acid

SOD

Cansema

Winter Tea

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

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>

> In a message dated 8/13/01 1:27:33 PM, petra_joy@... writes:

>

> << I started taking it a few weeks ago when I was

> diagnosed with lymph pockets in my breast.

> The cellforte IP-6 (by enzymatic therapy)has inositol

> with it and is the only product endorsed by

> Shamsuddin. >>

>

> Thanks, this is very helpful. If I had a great deal of money I would

> probably do

> MGN-3 but it looks as though it would be so expensive that I couldn't keep

it

> up for a long time and have no idea if you take it for life or What? So,

at

> this

> point I am about ready to order the CellForte and get started. Whatever I

do,

> I will not be another victim of chemotherapy.

>

> OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and

other alternative self-help subjects.

>

> THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

>

> This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here

are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your

own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to

hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found

here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher

or health care provider.

>

> You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following

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>

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Hi Dr. Ben-ph, Can you share a little about Ellagic acid? I am not

familiar with that.

Thanks,

Donna

-----Original Message-----

For breast cancer you need to take everything.

MGN-3

IP-6

CoQ10

Selenium

Vitamin D

Coral Calcium

Ellagic Acid

Lipoic Acid

SOD

Cansema

Winter Tea

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

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Basically, if you have cancer Dr. Ghounaim (? spelling) says to take it until

you have none. That varies from person to person. Six months, two years etc.

Then, after that you can take a low maintenace dose or you can take it for three

months out of each year. But, if you get past it and get your system clean you

might not need to do it more than every few years, in my thinking.

Donna

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In a message dated 8/13/01 6:13:01 PM, ruthful@... writes:

<< If you get it from vita health it is only $42 and you need a bottle every

five days for the first few weeks and then after that a bottle for every 20

days or so, so it really isn't too expensive. If you are paying regular

retail it is $69.95 and that is a little more pricey. >>

Well, that I could do! but do you know if it has to be continued for a long

time,

or for life, or what? I haven't been able to find information on how much

to

take

and for how long. But this is extremely encouraging!

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are

for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information

we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk.

Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take

responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold

yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here

without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health

care provider.

You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following

address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! -

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In a message dated 8/14/01 10:50:17 AM, sunbrite1@... writes:

<< Hello All, if you are going to shotgun this way...

then might as well include Essiac / caisse tea, >>

Thanks, Mike. Having realized that MGN-3 is affordable I will probably find

out

more and go for that. My local health food store has FlorEssence. Is this

okay

or should I order Essiac from Canada? Also there are a few people who do

Ozone

therapy here in New York. dorothy

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In a message dated 8/14/01 12:17:39 PM, eliezer@... writes:

<< Polyphenols (Ellagic Acid) as cancer chemopreventive agents

>>

Thanks --fortunately, I have worked for two biochemists and was once the

researcher for Scientific American so, applying all this to myself, I see I

can add some of these things to my diet. I have been drinking green tea

(a brand called Yogi Tea) a lot lately.

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Hello All, if you are going to shotgun this way...

then might as well include Essiac / caisse tea,

And look into various hyperbaric and ozone therapy.

Really the list is endless and I feel it is a case between

trial and see how you feel and talk to yourself and

listen to what your Heart says.... seems like it can get

overwheming on options when so many friends are

being or meaning to be helpful. But... try to be calm

and use discrimination between the heart ...mind... and

and your inner guidance / Spirit / God.

Mike Slivinski

On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:06:23 -0500 " Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph "

<eliezer@...> writes:

> For breast cancer you need to take everything.

> MGN-3

> IP-6

> CoQ10

> Selenium

> Vitamin D

> Coral Calcium

> Ellagic Acid

> Lipoic Acid

> SOD

> Cansema

> Winter Tea

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

> Personal and Financial Freedom

> www.naturalsolutionsradio.com (home page)

> www.herbs4health.com (herb shop)

> www.successlinks.com/global-3 (financial freedom)

> www.16thamendment.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

> www.taxstatement.com/global-3 (IRS income tax fraud)

>

> Watch your thoughts; they become your words.

> Watch your words; they become your actions.

> Watch your actions; they become your habits.

> Watch your habits; they become your character.

> Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

> Re: Cancer/Dorthy

>

>

> >

> > In a message dated 8/13/01 1:27:33 PM, petra_joy@... writes:

> >

> > << I started taking it a few weeks ago when I was

> > diagnosed with lymph pockets in my breast.

> > The cellforte IP-6 (by enzymatic therapy)has inositol

> > with it and is the only product endorsed by

> > Shamsuddin. >>

> >

> > Thanks, this is very helpful. If I had a great deal of money I

> would

> > probably do

> > MGN-3 but it looks as though it would be so expensive that I

> couldn't keep

> it

> > up for a long time and have no idea if you take it for life or

> What? So,

> at

> > this

> > point I am about ready to order the CellForte and get started.

> Whatever I

> do,

> > I will not be another victim of chemotherapy.

> >

> > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies,

> and

> other alternative self-help subjects.

> >

> > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE!

> >

> > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find

> here

> are for information and research purposes only. We are people

> sharing

> information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so

> at your

> own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the

> ability to

> take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you

> agree to

> hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas

> found

> here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a

> researcher

> or health care provider.

> >

> > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the

> following

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Polyphenols (Ellagic Acid) as cancer chemopreventive agents

Cancer Prevention Program, Hollings Cancer Center, Medical University of

South Carolina, ton 29425, USA.

Ellagic acid is a phenolic compound present in fruits and nuts including

raspberries, strawberries and walnuts. It is known to inhibit certain

carcinogen-induced cancers and may have other chemo preventive properties.

The effects of ellagic acid on cell cycle events and apoptosis were studied

in cervical carcinoma (CaSki) cells. We found that ellagic acid at a

concentration of 10(-5) M induced G arrest within 48 h, inhibited overall

cell growth and induced apoptosis in CaSki cells after 72 h of treatment.

Activation of the cdk inhibitory protein p21 by ellagic acid suggests a

role for ellagic acid in cell cycle regulation of cancer cells. PMID:

10355751

Polyphenols as cancer chemopreventive agents. Stoner GD, Mukhtar H

Department of Preventive Medicine, Ohio State University, Columbus 43210,

USA.

This article summarizes available data on the chemo preventive efficacies

of tea polyphenols, curcumin and ellagic acid in various model systems.

Emphasis is placed upon the anticarcinogenic activity of these polyphenols

and their proposed mechanism(s) of action. Tea is grown in about 30

countries and, next to water, is the most widely consumed beverage in the

world. Tea is manufactured as green, black, or oolong; black tea represents

approximately 80% of tea products. Epidemiological studies, though

inconclusive, suggest a protective effect of tea consumption on human

cancer.

Experimental studies of the antimutagenic and anticarcinogenic effects of

tea have been conducted principally with green tea polyphenols (GTPs).

GTPs exhibit antimutagenic activity in vitro, and they inhibit

carcinogen-induced skin, lung, forestomach, esophagus, duodenum and colon

tumors in rodents. In addition, GTPs inhibit TPA-induced skin tumor

promotion in mice. Although several GTPs possess anticarcinogenic activity,

the most active is (-)-epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG), the major

constituent in the GTP fraction. Several mechanisms appear to be

responsible for the tumor-inhibitory properties of GTPs, including

enhancement of antioxidant (glutathione peroxidase, catalase and quinone

reductase) and phase II (glutathione-S-transferase) enzyme activities;

inhibition of chemically induced lipid peroxidation; inhibition of

irradiation- and TPA-induced epidermal ornithine decarboxylase (ODC) and

cyclooxygenase activities; inhibition of protein kinase C and cellular

proliferation; antiinflammatory activity; and enhancement of gap junction

intercellular communication.

Curcumin is the yellow coloring agent in the spice tumeric. It exhibits

antimutagenic activity in the Ames Salmonella test and has anticarcinogenic

activity, inhibiting chemically induced preneoplastic lesions in the breast

and colon and neoplastic lesions in the skin, forestomach, duodenum and

colon of rodents. In addition, curcumin inhibits TPA-induced skin tumor

promotion in mice. The mechanisms for the anticarcinogenic effects of

curcumin are similar to those of the GTPs. Curcumin enhances glutathione

content and glutathione-S-transferase activity in liver; and it inhibits

lipid peroxidation and arachidonic acid metabolism in mouse skin, protein

kinase C activity in TPA-treated NIH 3T3 cells, chemically induced ODC and

tyrosine protein kinase activities in rat colon, and 8-hydroxyguanosine

formation in mouse fibroblasts.

Ellagic acid is a polyphenol found abundantly in various fruits, nuts and

vegetables. Ellagic acid is active in antimutagenesis assays, and has been

shown to inhibit chemically induced cancer in the lung, liver, skin and

esophagus of rodents, and TPA-induced tumor promotion in mouse skin. PMID:

8538195

Pulmonary carcinogenesis and its prevention by dietary polyphenolic

compounds. Castonguay A Laboratory of Cancer Etiology and

Chemoprevention, School of Pharmacy, Laval University, Quebec City, Canada.

The aims of this study were to define the cumulative exposure of Canadian

smokers to NNK and to characterize the efficacy of ellagic acid to inhibit

lung tumorigenesis induced by NNK. The sales-weighted average of NNK

deliveries from Canadian cigarettes was 73.2 ng/cigarette. NNK deliveries

were highly correlated to declared tar values and were linear with puff

volumes between 20 and 50 ml. Ellagic acid inhibited lung tumorigenesis

induced by NNK in A/J mice. This inhibition was related to the logarithm of

the dose of ellagic acid added to the diet. The biodistribution of ellagic

acid was studied in mice gavaged with ellagic acid. Pulmonary levels of

ellagic acid were directly proportional to the dose of ellagic acid between

0.2 and 2.0 mmol/kg b.w. PMID: 8512246

Protective effects of antioxidants on experimental liver injuries. Suzuki

M, Kumazawa N, Ohta S, Kamogawa A, Shinoda M

Faculty of Pharmaceutical Science, Hoshi University, Tokyo, Japan.

Protective effects of 14 kinds of antioxidant on liver injury induced by

carbon tetrachloride (CCl4) were investigated in terms of serum enzyme

activities and bilirubin concentration. Consequently, the significant

protective effects were found in sesamol, ellagic acid, cysteamine and

cysteine. These antioxidants clearly decreased the lipid peroxide in the

liver tissue. The protective effects on CCl4-induced liver injury in vivo

were independent of the inhibitory activities on lipid peroxidation in

hepatic mitochondria fraction in vitro. PMID: 2262882

Oregon Raspberry and Blackberry Commission, Nutraceutical Bulletin. Vol 3,

Issue 1. May 1999

Ellagic acid -

Ellagic acid has anticarcinogenic effects against a wide range of

carcinogens in several tissues. Significant inhibition of colon,

esophageal, liver, lung, tongue, and skin cancers have been shown in rats

and mice by in vitro and in vivo mutagenicity and carcinogenicity

investigations. Ellagic acid is a possible chemopreventative agent, also in

human carcinogenesis.

Quercetin -

Quercetin is the primary flavonol found in raspberries. It has been found

to be a potent anticarcinogen against skin, colon and mammary cancers in

rodents. Quercetin may also inhibit the induction and progression of human

cancers. Anthocyanins - Anthocyanins are flavonoids with antioxidant

activity. The anthocyanin content ranges between 20 and 60 mg/100 g fruit.

The types of anthocyanins present are primarily yaniding-3-glucoside,

yaniding-3-sophoroside, yaniding-3-rutinoside,

yaniding-3-glucosylrutinoside Phenolics - Catechins, benzoic acid and

cinnamic acid are phenolic acids present in raspberries.

Fiber - Raspberries are high in fiber (6.8 g/100 g), which has been shown

to help reduce the risk of certain cancers.

*These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug

Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or

prevent any disease.

Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

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Watch your words; they become your actions.

Watch your actions; they become your habits.

Watch your habits; they become your character.

Watch your character, it becomes your destiny.

Re: Cancer/Dorthy

> Hi Dr. Ben-ph, Can you share a little about Ellagic acid? I am not

familiar with that.

>

> Thanks,

> Donna

> -----Original Message-----

>

>

> For breast cancer you need to take everything.

> MGN-3

> IP-6

> CoQ10

> Selenium

> Vitamin D

> Coral Calcium

> Ellagic Acid

> Lipoic Acid

> SOD

> Cansema

> Winter Tea

>

> Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph

>

>

>

>

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