Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Wed Apr 24,10:26 AM ET By Starck STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Basic foods eaten by millions around the world such as bread, biscuits, potato chips and french fries contain alarmingly high quantities of acrylamide, a substance believed to cause cancer, Swedish scientists said on Wednesday. The research carried out at Stockholm University in cooperation with experts at Sweden's National Food Administration, a government food safety agency, showed that heating of carbohydrate-rich foods, such as potatoes, rice or cereals formed acrylamide, a much studied substance classified as a probable human carcinogen. The research was deemed so important that the scientists decided on the unusual step of going public with their findings before the research had been officially published in an academic journal. " I have been in this field for 30 years and I have never seen anything like this before, " said Leif Busk, head of the food administration's research department. Findings unveiled at a news conference called by the food administration showed that an ordinary bag of potato chips may contain up to 500 times more of the substance than the top level allowed in drinking water by the World Health Organization. French fries sold at Swedish franchises of U.S. fast-food chains Burger King Corp and Mc's contained about 100 times the one microgram per liter maximum permitted by the WHO for drinking water, the study showed. One milligram, or 0.001 grams, contains 1,000 micrograms. The Environmental Protection Agency classifies acrylamide, a colorless, crystalline solid, as a medium hazard probable human carcinogen. According to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, acrylamide induces gene mutations and has been found in animal tests to cause benign and malignant stomach tumors. It is also known to cause damage to the central and peripheral nervous system. " The discovery that acrylamide is formed during the preparation of food, and at high levels, is new knowledge. It may now be possible to explain some of the cases of cancer caused by food, " Busk said. " Fried, oven-baked and deep-fried potato and cereal products may contain high levels of acrylamide, " the administration said. " Acrylamide is formed during the preparation of food and occurs in many foodstuffs...Many of the analyzed foodstuffs are consumed in large quantities, e.g. potato crisps, french fries, fried potatoes, biscuits and bread. " Among products analyzed in the study were potato chips made by Finnish company CHIPS ABP, whose shares fell 14.5 percent to six-month lows, as well as breakfast cereals made by U.S. Kellogg, Quaker Oats Co, part of PepsiCo Inc, and Swiss Nestle, and Old El Paso brand tortilla chips. " For us, these are completely new findings which have never before been known to the world's foodstuffs industry, " CHIPS ABP said in a statement to the Helsinki stock exchange. Stefan sson, marketing manager Burger King's subsidiary in Sweden, told Reuters by telephone: " We have received the information and we are evaluating what it will mean. " Spokesmen for the other companies mentioned in the research were not immediately available for comment. Margareta Tornqvist, an associate professor at Stockholm University's department of environmental chemistry, said the consumption of a single potato chip could take acrylamide intake up to the WHO maximum for drinking water. Busk said, however, that the product analysis based on more than 100 random samples was not extensive enough for the administration to recommend the withdrawal of any products from supermarket shelves. " Frying at high temperatures or for a long time should be avoided, " Busk said, adding: " Our advice to eat less fat-rich products such as french fries and chips, remains valid. " He said the findings applied worldwide, not only to Sweden, as the food raw materials used in the analyzes had showed no traces of acrylamide. Swedish authorities had informed the European Commission and EU member countries, Busk said. " It is the first time we have come across such a result. We will evaluate this study and look at it but it is important to say that Sweden has not withdrawn any products from the market, " said European Commission spokeswoman Beate Gminder. " Therefore we'll have to see what the scientific evaluation by our side and by scientists in the member states will bring about, " she said. Liliane Abramsson-Zetterberg, a toxicologist at the Swedish food administration, said: " The cancer risk from acrylamide is much higher than (the levels) we accept for known carcinogens. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Duncan - is this for all " fries " ... anything on organic french fries... my son eats a lot of those! Can't really tell from this article. I'd love to know what all the chemists out there think of this. Andy - on mercury board - any thoughts on this one? Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com Duncan Crow wrote: > Wed Apr 24,10:26 AM ET > By Starck > > STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Basic foods eaten by millions around the world > such > as bread, biscuits, potato chips and french fries contain alarmingly > high > quantities of acrylamide, a substance believed to cause cancer, > Swedish > scientists said on Wednesday. The research carried out at Stockholm > University in cooperation with experts at Sweden's National Food > Administration, a government food safety agency, showed that heating > of > carbohydrate-rich foods, such as potatoes, rice or cereals formed > acrylamide, a much studied substance classified as a probable human > carcinogen. The research was deemed so important that the scientists > decided > on the unusual step of going public with their findings before the > research > had been officially published in an academic journal. " I have been in > this > field for 30 years and I have never seen anything like this before, " > said > Leif Busk, head of the food administration's research department. > Findings unveiled at a news conference called by the food > administration > showed that an ordinary bag of potato chips may contain up to 500 > times more > of the substance than the top level allowed in drinking water by the > World > Health Organization. > French fries sold at Swedish franchises of U.S. fast-food chains > Burger > King Corp and Mc's contained about 100 times the one microgram > per > liter maximum permitted by the WHO for drinking water, the study > showed. One > milligram, or 0.001 grams, contains 1,000 micrograms. > The Environmental Protection Agency classifies acrylamide, a > colorless, > crystalline solid, as a medium hazard probable human carcinogen. > According > to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, acrylamide induces > gene > mutations and has been found in animal tests to cause benign and > malignant > stomach tumors. It is also known to cause damage to the central and > peripheral nervous system. > " The discovery that acrylamide is formed during the preparation of > food, > and at high levels, is new knowledge. It may now be possible to > explain some > of the cases of cancer caused by food, " Busk said. > " Fried, oven-baked and deep-fried potato and cereal products may > contain > high levels of acrylamide, " the administration said. " Acrylamide is > formed > during the preparation of food and occurs in many foodstuffs...Many of > the > analyzed foodstuffs are consumed in large quantities, e.g. potato > crisps, > french fries, fried potatoes, biscuits and > bread. " > Among products analyzed in the study were potato chips made by > Finnish > company CHIPS ABP, whose shares fell 14.5 percent to six-month lows, > as well > as breakfast cereals made by U.S. Kellogg, Quaker Oats Co, part of > PepsiCo > Inc, and Swiss Nestle, and Old El Paso brand tortilla chips. > " For us, these are completely new findings which have never before > been > known to the world's foodstuffs industry, " CHIPS ABP said in a > statement to > the Helsinki stock exchange. Stefan sson, marketing manager Burger > > King's subsidiary in Sweden, told Reuters by telephone: " We have > received > the information and we are evaluating what it will mean. " Spokesmen > for the > other companies mentioned in the research were not immediately > available for > comment. > Margareta Tornqvist, an associate professor at Stockholm > University's > department of environmental chemistry, said the consumption of a > single > potato chip could take acrylamide intake up to the WHO maximum for > drinking > water. Busk said, however, that the product analysis based on more > than 100 > random samples was not extensive enough for the administration to > recommend > the withdrawal of any products from supermarket shelves. " Frying at > high > temperatures or for a long time should be avoided, " Busk said, adding: > " Our > advice to eat less fat-rich products such as french fries and chips, > remains > valid. " He said the findings applied worldwide, not only to Sweden, as > the > food raw materials used in the analyzes had showed no traces of > acrylamide. > Swedish authorities had informed the European Commission and EU member > > countries, Busk said. > " It is the first time we have come across such a result. We will > evaluate > this study and look at it but it is important to say that Sweden has > not > withdrawn any products from the market, " said European Commission > spokeswoman Beate Gminder. > " Therefore we'll have to see what the scientific evaluation by our > side > and by scientists in the member states will bring about, " she said. > Liliane > Abramsson-Zetterberg, a toxicologist at the Swedish food > administration, > said: " The cancer risk from acrylamide is much higher than (the > levels) we > accept for known carcinogens. " > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 Duncan - is this for all " fries " ... anything on organic french fries... my son eats a lot of those! Can't really tell from this article. I'd love to know what all the chemists out there think of this. Andy - on mercury board - any thoughts on this one? Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com Duncan Crow wrote: > Wed Apr 24,10:26 AM ET > By Starck > > STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Basic foods eaten by millions around the world > such > as bread, biscuits, potato chips and french fries contain alarmingly > high > quantities of acrylamide, a substance believed to cause cancer, > Swedish > scientists said on Wednesday. The research carried out at Stockholm > University in cooperation with experts at Sweden's National Food > Administration, a government food safety agency, showed that heating > of > carbohydrate-rich foods, such as potatoes, rice or cereals formed > acrylamide, a much studied substance classified as a probable human > carcinogen. The research was deemed so important that the scientists > decided > on the unusual step of going public with their findings before the > research > had been officially published in an academic journal. " I have been in > this > field for 30 years and I have never seen anything like this before, " > said > Leif Busk, head of the food administration's research department. > Findings unveiled at a news conference called by the food > administration > showed that an ordinary bag of potato chips may contain up to 500 > times more > of the substance than the top level allowed in drinking water by the > World > Health Organization. > French fries sold at Swedish franchises of U.S. fast-food chains > Burger > King Corp and Mc's contained about 100 times the one microgram > per > liter maximum permitted by the WHO for drinking water, the study > showed. One > milligram, or 0.001 grams, contains 1,000 micrograms. > The Environmental Protection Agency classifies acrylamide, a > colorless, > crystalline solid, as a medium hazard probable human carcinogen. > According > to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, acrylamide induces > gene > mutations and has been found in animal tests to cause benign and > malignant > stomach tumors. It is also known to cause damage to the central and > peripheral nervous system. > " The discovery that acrylamide is formed during the preparation of > food, > and at high levels, is new knowledge. It may now be possible to > explain some > of the cases of cancer caused by food, " Busk said. > " Fried, oven-baked and deep-fried potato and cereal products may > contain > high levels of acrylamide, " the administration said. " Acrylamide is > formed > during the preparation of food and occurs in many foodstuffs...Many of > the > analyzed foodstuffs are consumed in large quantities, e.g. potato > crisps, > french fries, fried potatoes, biscuits and > bread. " > Among products analyzed in the study were potato chips made by > Finnish > company CHIPS ABP, whose shares fell 14.5 percent to six-month lows, > as well > as breakfast cereals made by U.S. Kellogg, Quaker Oats Co, part of > PepsiCo > Inc, and Swiss Nestle, and Old El Paso brand tortilla chips. > " For us, these are completely new findings which have never before > been > known to the world's foodstuffs industry, " CHIPS ABP said in a > statement to > the Helsinki stock exchange. Stefan sson, marketing manager Burger > > King's subsidiary in Sweden, told Reuters by telephone: " We have > received > the information and we are evaluating what it will mean. " Spokesmen > for the > other companies mentioned in the research were not immediately > available for > comment. > Margareta Tornqvist, an associate professor at Stockholm > University's > department of environmental chemistry, said the consumption of a > single > potato chip could take acrylamide intake up to the WHO maximum for > drinking > water. Busk said, however, that the product analysis based on more > than 100 > random samples was not extensive enough for the administration to > recommend > the withdrawal of any products from supermarket shelves. " Frying at > high > temperatures or for a long time should be avoided, " Busk said, adding: > " Our > advice to eat less fat-rich products such as french fries and chips, > remains > valid. " He said the findings applied worldwide, not only to Sweden, as > the > food raw materials used in the analyzes had showed no traces of > acrylamide. > Swedish authorities had informed the European Commission and EU member > > countries, Busk said. > " It is the first time we have come across such a result. We will > evaluate > this study and look at it but it is important to say that Sweden has > not > withdrawn any products from the market, " said European Commission > spokeswoman Beate Gminder. > " Therefore we'll have to see what the scientific evaluation by our > side > and by scientists in the member states will bring about, " she said. > Liliane > Abramsson-Zetterberg, a toxicologist at the Swedish food > administration, > said: " The cancer risk from acrylamide is much higher than (the > levels) we > accept for known carcinogens. " > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2002 Report Share Posted May 8, 2002 I have no intention of reducing my consumption of any of these foods based on this article. I did not find it convincing. Andy . . . .. . . . . . . > is this for all " fries " ... anything on organic french fries... my son > eats a lot of those! Can't really tell from this article. I'd love to > know what all the chemists out there think of this. > > Andy - on mercury board - any thoughts on this one? > > Jeanne A. Brohart > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > Duncan Crow wrote: > > > Wed Apr 24,10:26 AM ET > > By Starck > > > > STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Basic foods eaten by millions around the world > > such > > as bread, biscuits, potato chips and french fries contain alarmingly > > high > > quantities of acrylamide, a substance believed to cause cancer, > > Swedish > > scientists said on Wednesday. The research carried out at Stockholm > > University in cooperation with experts at Sweden's National Food > > Administration, a government food safety agency, showed that heating > > of > > carbohydrate-rich foods, such as potatoes, rice or cereals formed > > acrylamide, a much studied substance classified as a probable human > > carcinogen. The research was deemed so important that the scientists > > decided > > on the unusual step of going public with their findings before the > > research > > had been officially published in an academic journal. " I have been in > > this > > field for 30 years and I have never seen anything like this before, " > > said > > Leif Busk, head of the food administration's research department. > > Findings unveiled at a news conference called by the food > > administration > > showed that an ordinary bag of potato chips may contain up to 500 > > times more > > of the substance than the top level allowed in drinking water by the > > World > > Health Organization. > > French fries sold at Swedish franchises of U.S. fast-food chains > > Burger > > King Corp and Mc's contained about 100 times the one microgram > > per > > liter maximum permitted by the WHO for drinking water, the study > > showed. One > > milligram, or 0.001 grams, contains 1,000 micrograms. > > The Environmental Protection Agency classifies acrylamide, a > > colorless, > > crystalline solid, as a medium hazard probable human carcinogen. > > According > > to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, acrylamide induces > > gene > > mutations and has been found in animal tests to cause benign and > > malignant > > stomach tumors. It is also known to cause damage to the central and > > peripheral nervous system. > > " The discovery that acrylamide is formed during the preparation of > > food, > > and at high levels, is new knowledge. It may now be possible to > > explain some > > of the cases of cancer caused by food, " Busk said. > > " Fried, oven-baked and deep-fried potato and cereal products may > > contain > > high levels of acrylamide, " the administration said. " Acrylamide is > > formed > > during the preparation of food and occurs in many foodstuffs...Many of > > the > > analyzed foodstuffs are consumed in large quantities, e.g. potato > > crisps, > > french fries, fried potatoes, biscuits and > > bread. " > > Among products analyzed in the study were potato chips made by > > Finnish > > company CHIPS ABP, whose shares fell 14.5 percent to six-month lows, > > as well > > as breakfast cereals made by U.S. Kellogg, Quaker Oats Co, part of > > PepsiCo > > Inc, and Swiss Nestle, and Old El Paso brand tortilla chips. > > " For us, these are completely new findings which have never before > > been > > known to the world's foodstuffs industry, " CHIPS ABP said in a > > statement to > > the Helsinki stock exchange. Stefan sson, marketing manager Burger > > > > King's subsidiary in Sweden, told Reuters by telephone: " We have > > received > > the information and we are evaluating what it will mean. " Spokesmen > > for the > > other companies mentioned in the research were not immediately > > available for > > comment. > > Margareta Tornqvist, an associate professor at Stockholm > > University's > > department of environmental chemistry, said the consumption of a > > single > > potato chip could take acrylamide intake up to the WHO maximum for > > drinking > > water. Busk said, however, that the product analysis based on more > > than 100 > > random samples was not extensive enough for the administration to > > recommend > > the withdrawal of any products from supermarket shelves. " Frying at > > high > > temperatures or for a long time should be avoided, " Busk said, adding: > > " Our > > advice to eat less fat-rich products such as french fries and chips, > > remains > > valid. " He said the findings applied worldwide, not only to Sweden, as > > the > > food raw materials used in the analyzes had showed no traces of > > acrylamide. > > Swedish authorities had informed the European Commission and EU member > > > > countries, Busk said. > > " It is the first time we have come across such a result. We will > > evaluate > > this study and look at it but it is important to say that Sweden has > > not > > withdrawn any products from the market, " said European Commission > > spokeswoman Beate Gminder. > > " Therefore we'll have to see what the scientific evaluation by our > > side > > and by scientists in the member states will bring about, " she said. > > Liliane > > Abramsson-Zetterberg, a toxicologist at the Swedish food > > administration, > > said: " The cancer risk from acrylamide is much higher than (the > > levels) we > > accept for known carcinogens. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 Thanks for the info, but my question was not answered. If you can answer the question, that would be great. --- Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> wrote: > Wed Apr 24,10:26 AM ET > By Starck > > STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Basic foods eaten by > millions around the world such > as bread, biscuits, potato chips and french fries > contain alarmingly high > quantities of acrylamide, a substance believed to > cause cancer, Swedish > scientists said on Wednesday. The research carried > out at Stockholm > University in cooperation with experts at Sweden's > National Food > Administration, a government food safety agency, > showed that heating of > carbohydrate-rich foods, such as potatoes, rice or > cereals formed > acrylamide, a much studied substance classified as a > probable human > carcinogen. The research was deemed so important > that the scientists decided > on the unusual step of going public with their > findings before the research > had been officially published in an academic > journal. " I have been in this > field for 30 years and I have never seen anything > like this before, " said > Leif Busk, head of the food administration's > research department. > Findings unveiled at a news conference called by > the food administration > showed that an ordinary bag of potato chips may > contain up to 500 times more > of the substance than the top level allowed in > drinking water by the World > Health Organization. > French fries sold at Swedish franchises of U.S. > fast-food chains Burger > King Corp and Mc's contained about 100 times > the one microgram per > liter maximum permitted by the WHO for drinking > water, the study showed. One > milligram, or 0.001 grams, contains 1,000 > micrograms. > The Environmental Protection Agency classifies > acrylamide, a colorless, > crystalline solid, as a medium hazard probable human > carcinogen. According > to the International Agency for Research on Cancer, > acrylamide induces gene > mutations and has been found in animal tests to > cause benign and malignant > stomach tumors. It is also known to cause damage to > the central and > peripheral nervous system. > " The discovery that acrylamide is formed during > the preparation of food, > and at high levels, is new knowledge. It may now be > possible to explain some > of the cases of cancer caused by food, " Busk said. > " Fried, oven-baked and deep-fried potato and > cereal products may contain > high levels of acrylamide, " the administration said. > " Acrylamide is formed > during the preparation of food and occurs in many > foodstuffs...Many of the > analyzed foodstuffs are consumed in large > quantities, e.g. potato crisps, > french fries, fried potatoes, biscuits and > bread. " > Among products analyzed in the study were potato > chips made by Finnish > company CHIPS ABP, whose shares fell 14.5 percent to > six-month lows, as well > as breakfast cereals made by U.S. Kellogg, Quaker > Oats Co, part of PepsiCo > Inc, and Swiss Nestle, and Old El Paso brand > tortilla chips. > " For us, these are completely new findings which > have never before been > known to the world's foodstuffs industry, " CHIPS ABP > said in a statement to > the Helsinki stock exchange. Stefan sson, > marketing manager Burger > King's subsidiary in Sweden, told Reuters by > telephone: " We have received > the information and we are evaluating what it will > mean. " Spokesmen for the > other companies mentioned in the research were not > immediately available for > comment. > Margareta Tornqvist, an associate professor at > Stockholm University's > department of environmental chemistry, said the > consumption of a single > potato chip could take acrylamide intake up to the > WHO maximum for drinking > water. Busk said, however, that the product analysis > based on more than 100 > random samples was not extensive enough for the > administration to recommend > the withdrawal of any products from supermarket > shelves. " Frying at high > temperatures or for a long time should be avoided, " > Busk said, adding: " Our > advice to eat less fat-rich products such as french > fries and chips, remains > valid. " He said the findings applied worldwide, not > only to Sweden, as the > food raw materials used in the analyzes had showed > no traces of acrylamide. > Swedish authorities had informed the European > Commission and EU member > countries, Busk said. > " It is the first time we have come across such a > result. We will evaluate > this study and look at it but it is important to say > that Sweden has not > withdrawn any products from the market, " said > European Commission > spokeswoman Beate Gminder. > " Therefore we'll have to see what the scientific > evaluation by our side > and by scientists in the member states will bring > about, " she said. Liliane > Abramsson-Zetterberg, a toxicologist at the Swedish > food administration, > said: " The cancer risk from acrylamide is much > higher than (the levels) we > accept for known carcinogens. " > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2002 Report Share Posted May 9, 2002 Hi , I'm just figuring all this out myself but I would say for french fries and peas it would be just fine to give the HNZyme and NF only. The Pep is for dairy, gluten, soy and meats (is the way I undertand it). At first I was giving all 3 at every meal and snack but now I'm trying to break it down more too. Hope this helps, Darlene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2002 Report Share Posted May 10, 2002 When you talk about Mac or Burger Kings french fries, please bear in mind how often do they change their fry oil. I think if they keep frying in the same oil for more than two weeks, they sure will have more toxic things on their fries. I don't know how often fast food restaurant change their frying oil. If they change oil everyday (I doubt about that) or once every a few days, their food should be a little bit healthier. Am I right? Lili --- andrewhallcutler <AndyCutler@...> wrote: > I have no intention of reducing my consumption of > any of these foods > based on this article. I did not find it > convincing. > > Andy . . . .. . . . . . . > > > is this for all " fries " ... anything on organic > french fries... my > son > > eats a lot of those! Can't really tell from this > article. I'd > love to > > know what all the chemists out there think of > this. > > > > Andy - on mercury board - any thoughts on this > one? > > > > Jeanne A. Brohart > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > Duncan Crow wrote: > > > > > Wed Apr 24,10:26 AM ET > > > By Starck > > > > > > STOCKHOLM (Reuters) - Basic foods eaten by > millions around the > world > > > such > > > as bread, biscuits, potato chips and french > fries contain > alarmingly > > > high > > > quantities of acrylamide, a substance believed > to cause cancer, > > > Swedish > > > scientists said on Wednesday. The research > carried out at > Stockholm > > > University in cooperation with experts at > Sweden's National Food > > > Administration, a government food safety agency, > showed that > heating > > > of > > > carbohydrate-rich foods, such as potatoes, rice > or cereals formed > > > acrylamide, a much studied substance classified > as a probable > human > > > carcinogen. The research was deemed so important > that the > scientists > > > decided > > > on the unusual step of going public with their > findings before the > > > research > > > had been officially published in an academic > journal. " I have been > in > > > this > > > field for 30 years and I have never seen > anything like this > before, " > > > said > > > Leif Busk, head of the food administration's > research department. > > > Findings unveiled at a news conference called > by the food > > > administration > > > showed that an ordinary bag of potato chips may > contain up to 500 > > > times more > > > of the substance than the top level allowed in > drinking water by > the > > > World > > > Health Organization. > > > French fries sold at Swedish franchises of > U.S. fast-food chains > > > Burger > > > King Corp and Mc's contained about 100 > times the one > microgram > > > per > > > liter maximum permitted by the WHO for drinking > water, the study > > > showed. One > > > milligram, or 0.001 grams, contains 1,000 > micrograms. > > > The Environmental Protection Agency classifies > acrylamide, a > > > colorless, > > > crystalline solid, as a medium hazard probable > human carcinogen. > > > According > > > to the International Agency for Research on > Cancer, acrylamide > induces > > > gene > > > mutations and has been found in animal tests to > cause benign and > > > malignant > > > stomach tumors. It is also known to cause damage > to the central > and > > > peripheral nervous system. > > > " The discovery that acrylamide is formed > during the preparation > of > > > food, > > > and at high levels, is new knowledge. It may now > be possible to > > > explain some > > > of the cases of cancer caused by food, " Busk > said. > > > " Fried, oven-baked and deep-fried potato and > cereal products may > > > contain > > > high levels of acrylamide, " the administration > said. " Acrylamide > is > > > formed > > > during the preparation of food and occurs in > many > foodstuffs...Many of > > > the > > > analyzed foodstuffs are consumed in large > quantities, e.g. potato > > > crisps, > > > french fries, fried potatoes, biscuits and > > > bread. " > > > Among products analyzed in the study were > potato chips made by > > > Finnish > > > company CHIPS ABP, whose shares fell 14.5 > percent to six-month > lows, > > > as well > > > as breakfast cereals made by U.S. Kellogg, > Quaker Oats Co, part of > > > PepsiCo > > > Inc, and Swiss Nestle, and Old El Paso brand > tortilla chips. > > > " For us, these are completely new findings > which have never > before > > > been > > > known to the world's foodstuffs industry, " CHIPS > ABP said in a > > > statement to > > > the Helsinki stock exchange. Stefan sson, > marketing manager > Burger > > > > > > King's subsidiary in Sweden, told Reuters by > telephone: " We have > > > received > > > the information and we are evaluating what it > will mean. " > Spokesmen > > > for the > > > other companies mentioned in the research were > not immediately > > > available for > > > comment. > > > Margareta Tornqvist, an associate professor at > Stockholm > > > University's > > > department of environmental chemistry, said the > consumption of a > > > single > > > potato chip could take acrylamide intake up to > the WHO maximum for > > > drinking > > > water. Busk said, however, that the product > analysis based on more > > > than 100 > > > random samples was not extensive enough for the > administration to > > > recommend > > > the withdrawal of any products from supermarket > shelves. " Frying > at > > > high > > > temperatures or for a long time should be > avoided, " Busk said, > adding: > > > " Our > > > advice to eat less fat-rich products such as > french fries and > chips, > > > remains > > > valid. " He said the findings applied worldwide, > not only to > Sweden, as > > > the > > > food raw materials used in the analyzes had > showed no traces of > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2003 Report Share Posted April 5, 2003 I just give all 3. Less than a whole NF though especially if you are just starting. --- In , " aliomalley1966 " <comalley@i...> wrote: > Okay, this might be a weird question, but just getting started. My > son likes Mc's french fries and hash browns. I never know > whether to give a broad-spectrum enzyme, a No-Fenol or a Peptizyme > with them. It seems all of them would be appropriate on different > levels. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2003 Report Share Posted April 5, 2003 >>> My son likes Mc's french fries and hash browns. I never know whether to give a broad-spectrum enzyme, a No-Fenol or a Peptizyme with them. It seems all of them would be appropriate on different levels. Ideas? It is hard to overdo enzymes, but I would just do a Zyme Prime and 1/4-1/2 No-Fenol (only if you think that your child might be sensitive to any phenols). Otherwise, a Zyme Prime should cover it. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2003 Report Share Posted April 5, 2003 I would think maybe a No Fenol for the ketchup that usually accompanies the French fries, but Mcs fries their fries separately from other foods, so there shouldn't be cross contamination with any casein or gluten, so shouldn't need the AFP. french fries Okay, this might be a weird question, but just getting started. My son likes Mc's french fries and hash browns. I never know whether to give a broad-spectrum enzyme, a No-Fenol or a Peptizyme with them. It seems all of them would be appropriate on different levels. Ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2003 Report Share Posted August 12, 2003 I made some killer french fries the other day, and I thought I'd share the recipe. French fries are conceptually incredibly simple, but since sharing the fries I made with a friend scored me another " you-should-open-up-a-restaurant " comment I thought this might be helpful: Serves two: ( or 18 Atkins-dieters ;-) ) Four potatoes Arrowroot powder McCormick's " Garlic-and-Herb " seasoning 1 egg tub-o-lard Slice the potatoes to french fry shape to your desired thickness. Pour arrowroot powder into a regular cereal bowl, about half or two thirds full. Cover the top with the seasoning, just enough so you don't see the arrowroot powder but no more. Stir together thoroughly. Scramble the egg up and dilute it with some milk or cream. Fill a small saucepan with lard, and turn on medium-high. (No lower, no higher. This is setting " 5 " out of 7 for me. Setting " 4 " will not crisp the fries even with twice as much time) Dip the potato slices in the egg, and then roll them in the arrowroot. Roll them quickly. They should be more or less covered, but no need for them to be cakey. Dump the potatoes in the lard. The lard will boil once the potatoes are in. Cook for five minutes. If they are slightly browned, they're done. Load on the salt (to your taste, of course). Enjoy the divine taste. You probably won't fit all the potatoes in the pan at once, but using a small saucepan allows you to waste less lard. If you need to make them in two or three batches, put the " done " fries in your medium saucepan covered and they'll stay perfectly warm. The seasoning is key. I made my second batch deficient in seasoning and it made a big difference. The arrowroot (or any other starch) is even more key-- making french fries without breading them makes for a shoddy product. I know, I made them like that several times before I realized french fries were supposed to be breaded. So that was my weekend treat. Next weekend, donuts! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 >So that was my weekend treat. Next weekend, donuts! I kill you, you bastard! ;-> - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 French fries used to be my favorite food of all! I was always embarassed to tell people that and I always thought I would outgrow the obsession but I didn't. However, I am very happy to say that the last bag of french fries I have had was on Feb. 22, 2006...the day before my surgery. I don't even crave them...EVER! This is probably the biggest food change I have experienced in the last year. I was almost in tears when I tried to eat one and realized that my band does NOT like them BUT, at the same time, it was a joyous revelation because I knew then that I could get rid of my fry addiction! Oh, and hamburgers? Feb. 22, 2006! That may not seem like much to most people but I was definately a fast food addict (and the greasier the better in my book!) I never even think about them now. Funny how that has changed! Jenni Curriebrianseregi59 <biglouofkc@...> wrote: French Fries, the vehicle to get ketchup from my plate, to my mouth.biglou Check out the all-new beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Big Lou and Jenni Oh to have catsup! With my bladder condition I had to give up that wonderful stuff, so my love of french fries went away even before my RNY surgery. What is the point of french fries without catsup. Now being the truly died in the wool southern girl that I am, I've not given up catfish, even though I used to love to eat it with catsup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 French Fries, like eggs, are evil. They trick you with flavor appeal and then when you eat them they laugh at you while you Positively Barf.brianseregi59 <biglouofkc@...> wrote: French Fries, the vehicle to get ketchup from my plate, to my mouth.biglou The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 My band hates fries too! yuck! it doesnt like any kind of potatoes except mashed. Oh my band loves mashed tators! that is like my bands comfort food. Its one of the few foods that actually gives me that warm full feeling. The other day I had popeye chickens mashed tators and gravy. OHG! It was the best ever!!! I thank God above that I do not have one of those places even remotely close to my home. Instead if I want tators I make instant and I use low fat canned gravy and it is very good and very low cals. another thing my band loves is chicken chili. that is pretty low cal too. Oh today I totally bombed on cals! So, tomorrow it is back on the wagon again! Those cals add up so darn quick. today was just one of those days that I sort of munched. breakfast I had my protien shake. 250 cals., and later in the morning a espresso 135 cals., then I forgot my chicken chili that I had made last night for my lunch, so I ate a half of bag of smart food popcorn 145 cals and peperoni stick (both bad choices), then for dinner steamed veggies and soup, probably 300 cals because it was wanton soup, then some ice-cream 120 cals. so that is a grand total of around 1,200 cals. arghhhhh!!! that was horrible. You know it is wierd because lately there are days when I can eat way to much. if it keeps up this girl is back in for a tweak on the band tightness! But each day is a new day with the band, tomorrow I may not be able to eat anything! OK, OK, I am rambling. I will stop. :-) take care, and hugs, > > Big Lou and Jenni > > Oh to have catsup! With my bladder condition I had to give up that > wonderful stuff, so my love of french fries went away even before my > RNY surgery. What is the point of french fries without catsup. > > Now being the truly died in the wool southern girl that I am, I've not > given up catfish, even though I used to love to eat it with catsup. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 , 250+135+145+300+120= 950 calories!!! Not such a bad day after-all!! Easy on your self now!! Your doing O K!! ok? Dana -------------- Original message -------------- From: "peninsulahair" <peninsulahair@...> My band hates fries too! yuck! it doesnt like any kind of potatoes except mashed. Oh my band loves mashed tators! that is like my bands comfort food. Its one of the few foods that actually gives me that warm full feeling. The other day I had popeye chickens mashed tators and gravy. OHG! It was the best ever!!! I thank God above that I do not have one of those places even remotely close to my home. Instead if I want tators I make instant and I use low fat canned gravy and it is very good and very low cals. another thing my band loves is chicken chili. that is pretty low cal too. Oh today I totally bombed on cals! So, tomorrow it is back on the wagon again! Those cals add up so darn quick. today was just one of those days that I sort of munched. breakfast I had my protien shake. 250 cals., and later in the morning a espresso 135 cals., then I forgot my chicken chili that I had made last night for my lunch, so I ate a half of bag of smart food popcorn 145 cals and peperoni stick (both bad choices), then for dinner steamed veggies and soup, probably 300 cals because it was wanton soup, then some ice-cream 120 cals. so that is a grand total of around 1,200 cals. arghhhhh!!! that was horrible. You know it is wierd because lately there are days when I can eat way to much. if it keeps up this girl is back in for a tweak on the band tightness! But each day is a new day with the band, tomorrow I may not be able to eat anything! OK, OK, I am rambling. I will stop. :-)take care, and hugs, >> Big Lou and Jenni> > Oh to have catsup! With my bladder condition I had to give up that> wonderful stuff, so my love of french fries went away even before my> RNY surge ry. What is the point of french fries without catsup.> > Now being the truly died in the wool southern girl that I am, I've not> given up catfish, even though I used to love to eat it with catsup.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2007 Report Share Posted January 21, 2007 French fries are very hard on my band too. I can only eat a few and I will get some pain. But it has helped me to stop eating them! :-) > > > > Big Lou and Jenni > > > > Oh to have catsup! With my bladder condition I had to give up that > > wonderful stuff, so my love of french fries went away even before my > > RNY surgery. What is the point of french fries without catsup. > > > > Now being the truly died in the wool southern girl that I am, I've not > > given up catfish, even though I used to love to eat it with catsup. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 What a heart warming experience, Chris! How old is your son and when was he diagnosed? I have 2 year old twin boys that were just diagnosed last week with Autism. Thanks for sharing! - On 4/4/07, <cpeterson@...> wrote: So my kid and I went for a hike the other day and when we were done I asked him if he wanted french fries and he said yes.So we went to the grocery store and I had my basket and he had his and he went to get the fries. He knows where they are in the freezer section. They're organic fries with no colors and the other crap. At any rate, I manage to lose him and I'm searching through the store and then I see this pair of feet sticking out of the freezer and it's him, trying to reach the popsicles.He not only had grabbed the right fries, his basket was full of groceries. He grabbed hamburger patties, the one and only type of cookie he can eat, and was finishing his shopping off with the popsicles when I found him.The moral I guess is no matter what we think isn't sinking in with autistic kids, probably actually is sinking in. We often overlook their ability to learn because they don't talk or interact very well. Keep plugging away. Good things will come.www.glaciergeographic.com -- Quote of the Day: " Not the senses I have but what I do with them is my kingdom. " Helen Keller (1880 - 1968) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 I know how you feel! I let just about buy every fruit & veggie in the market last week! He was just so happy in the market! I had stopped taking him the noise & such. But my cousin says he needs to learn and if people can't understand who cares? She told one women that the last perfect child born was Jesus! > > So my kid and I went for a hike the other day and when we were done I asked him if he > wanted french fries and he said yes. > > So we went to the grocery store and I had my basket and he had his and he went to get > the fries. He knows where they are in the freezer section. They're organic fries with no > colors and the other crap. > > At any rate, I manage to lose him and I'm searching through the store and then I see this > pair of feet sticking out of the freezer and it's him, trying to reach the popsicles. > > He not only had grabbed the right fries, his basket was full of groceries. He grabbed > hamburger patties, the one and only type of cookie he can eat, and was finishing his > shopping off with the popsicles when I found him. > > The moral I guess is no matter what we think isn't sinking in with autistic kids, probably > actually is sinking in. We often overlook their ability to learn because they don't talk or > interact very well. > > Keep plugging away. Good things will come. > > > www.glaciergeographic.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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