Guest guest Posted August 9, 2003 Report Share Posted August 9, 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Judy Nielsen " <jjmorgan6@...> > I have a question about weight loss and stomach stapleling...has > anyone here lost more than 100 lbs and *kept it off* or even know of > anyone who has without having surgery? http://www.lowcarblosers.com Note that the table at the beginning is for the first three days of August. Scroll down to the very bottom for some examples of people who've lost significant amounts of weight over the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2003 Report Share Posted August 10, 2003 >I have a question about weight loss and stomach stapleling...has >anyone here lost more than 100 lbs and *kept it off* or even know of >anyone who has without having surgery? I am concidering it, being >morbidly obese, 265# and a bmi of 43, 5'5 " tall. The thing that I >find facinating is that after surgery, you are supposed to eat a >high protien diet, fat is not restricted, but carbs are! I would >love to hear what other have done, especially if someone had it done >and kept eating well. Thanks! (I REALLY don't want to have it >done, but life is getting harder and harder) Before you try something irreversable, you might want to TRY something else. I'm really encouraged by this Warrior Diet. Except the name -- I'm calling it the " French Riviera Diet " :-) because it is similar to how they eat in the Mediterannean (in my limited experience, anyway). It would be a kick if the reason the vaunted " Mediterannean Diet " works is the timing of the meals! When I was in Europe the normal thing was to eat just a little during the day, and have a big late dinner with lots of vegies and olive oil. Anyway, the problem with diets as we both no doubt well know is that it's impossible to stick to them long term, unless you really LIKE the restrictions, or you are forced to. Stomach stapling forces you to, but that is the only advantage. My French Riviera Diet is the first one I've felt had any hope of being a long-term plan I could live with (though after 4 days it's hard to say for sure). But usually at this point I'm saying to myself " I CAN'T DO THIS! " and right now I'm feeling really freed up, and energetic and healthy. (and a bit lighter on the scale!). My BIG PROBLEM in life has always been eating. If I skip a meal, I used to pass out. Now I don't pass out, but I get grouchy and can't think, and often get a migraine. Eating more fats helped, and cutting down carbs, but it really has been an issue. Plus eating NT, I spend so darn much time cooking and cleaning. Before having kids I wasn't terribly overweight, but I still had to eat constantly. So ... it does not seem right to skip meals ALL DAY! And I've read every diet book on the planet and a lot of science articles, and all of them say small meals are the way to go. But it works! Or is working so far. I get up, drink some coffee, have some blueberries. If I get hungry I have a piece of jerky, or a carrot. I do eat salad or broth with " the crew " at lunch, but on weekends I don't have to cook AT ALL all day! And I can plan out all the stuff I want for dinner. I've been a little hungry, and pretty energetic. Too energetic -- I worked out too much and strained my shoulder so yesterday I spent in pain. For dinner I plan the meal for all my favorites, which in my case is stuff like fried collards or fried green tomatos or baked green beans with garlic (for the " green " course), chicken soup, followed by chicken or beef or crab with butter, followed by hashbrowns, popcorn, beans, or a baked potato, followed by a piece of chocolate maybe, and with a couple of glasses of wine. And I eat whatever and however much I feel like eating. I stuffed myself the first day though, and felt lousy, so now I don't go to the " stuffed " stage. Now, I can't really eat like that on ANY eating plan I've ever read. But it sure makes me happy! I can put up with a few hunger pangs during the day (if my energy level is ok) if I know I can eat at dinner. And my days are so much easier. Now, I can't say it works for everyone, but a really nice meal once a day sure beats eating a thimbleful of food every few hours. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:53:25 -0700 Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote: > Before you try something irreversable, you might want to TRY something > else. I'm really encouraged by this Warrior Diet. Except the name -- I'm > calling it the " French Riviera Diet " :-) because it is similar to how they > eat in the Mediterannean (in my limited experience, anyway). It would > be a kick if the reason the vaunted " Mediterannean Diet " works is > the timing of the meals! When I was in Europe the normal thing > was to eat just a little during the day, and have a big late dinner > with lots of vegies and olive oil. " French Riviera Diet " sounds so much more elegant as well. He might sell a lot more books if he changed the name, LOL, since men aren't the largest part of the diet market > > Anyway, the problem with diets as we both no doubt well know is > that it's impossible to stick to them long term, unless you really > LIKE the restrictions, or you are forced to. Amen!!!!!!!!! Stomach stapling forces > you to, but that is the only advantage. My French Riviera Diet is the > first one I've felt had any hope of being a long-term plan I could > live with (though after 4 days it's hard to say for sure). But usually > at this point I'm saying to myself " I CAN'T DO THIS! " and right now > I'm feeling really freed up, and energetic and healthy. (and a bit lighter > on the scale!). Here is the deal with me. I inadvertently discovered that when I was fasting twice a week and REALLY feasting once week that on the non-fasting days I could eat *whatever* I wanted and not gain weight. That was a revelation. So instead of limiting my carbs on the non-fast days and then porking out on the weekends (which I liked as well), I discovered I didn't have to limit any good foods on the eating days. So the principles of the Warrior Diet I was already sympathetic too when it came up again recently on the primal diet list. > > My BIG PROBLEM in life has always been eating. If I skip a meal, I > used to pass out. Now I don't pass out, but I get grouchy and can't > think, and often get a migraine. Eating more fats helped, and cutting > down carbs, but it really has been an issue. Plus eating NT, I spend > so darn much time cooking and cleaning. Before having kids I > wasn't terribly overweight, but I still had to eat constantly. > > So ... it does not seem right to skip meals ALL DAY! And I've read > every diet book on the planet and a lot of science articles, and > all of them say small meals are the way to go. But it works! > Or is working so far. > > I get up, drink some coffee, have some blueberries. > If I get hungry I have a piece of jerky, or a carrot. I do eat salad > or broth with " the crew " at lunch, but on weekends I don't have > to cook AT ALL all day! And I can plan out all the stuff I want for > dinner. See for me this is the FUN part. Not only do I get more freedom during the day, more energy, more time to focus on other tasks, but I can eat whatever I want at night. Of course it is all NT style, and in my case mostly raw or lightly cooked during the week, but still no category restrictions. And a slow pace. And a festive style. You gotta love it. And the other night, over a four hour period, I drank the equivalent of six beers, in addition to a huge amount of food. The next morning I had lost a pound, and I didn't even exercise the day before, which is an important part of the diet. I was shaking my head in amazement. I would like to actually read the book and check out his references, so I can more intelligently discuss this food plan. > > I've been a little hungry, and pretty energetic. Too energetic -- > I worked out too much and strained my shoulder so yesterday > I spent in pain. > > For dinner I plan the meal for all my favorites, which in my case > is stuff like fried collards or fried green tomatos or baked green > beans with garlic (for the " green " course), chicken soup, followed > by chicken or beef or crab with butter, followed by hashbrowns, > popcorn, beans, or a baked potato, followed by a piece of chocolate > maybe, and with a couple of glasses of wine. And I eat whatever > and however much I feel like eating. I stuffed myself the first > day though, and felt lousy, so now I don't go to the " stuffed " > stage. > Interesting. I think the " stuffed " part might be more appealing to men than women, although I could be wrong. But one of the testimonials at the website is from a researcher of the author who says she doesn't follow the program as strictly as Ori (i.e. she doesn't stuff herself) but she has still gotten great results. > Now, I can't really eat like that on ANY eating plan I've ever > read. But it sure makes me happy! Yes Heidi, and this is so key, IMO, for long term success. I'm having a good time while losing weight. Imagine that! I can put up with a few > hunger pangs during the day (if my energy level is ok) if > I know I can eat at dinner. Ahh, according to the website, the " warrior " has come out in you, LOL And my days are so much easier. > Now, I can't say it works for everyone, but a really nice meal > once a day sure beats eating a thimbleful of food every few > hours. Indeed!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2003 Report Share Posted August 13, 2003 >See for me this is the FUN part. Not only do I get more freedom during >the day, more energy, more time to focus on other tasks, but I can eat >whatever I want at night. Of course it is all NT style, and in my case >mostly raw or lightly cooked during the week, but still no category >restrictions. And a slow pace. And a festive style. You gotta love it. > >And the other night, over a four hour period, I drank the equivalent of >six beers, in addition to a huge amount of food. The next morning I had >lost a pound, and I didn't even exercise the day before, which is an >important part of the diet. I was shaking my head in amazement. If I get skinny, the REALLY fun part will be going out with all those dieters and porking out for dinner ... :-) >I would like to actually read the book and check out his references, so >I can more intelligently discuss this food plan. Yeah, I'm going to order it too. Should support the author if nothing else. I'd love to hear your observations. >Interesting. I think the " stuffed " part might be more appealing to men >than women, although I could be wrong. But one of the testimonials at >the website is from a researcher of the author who says she doesn't >follow the program as strictly as Ori (i.e. she doesn't stuff herself) >but she has still gotten great results. My stomach just didn't like it when I fed it too much. Maybe too much too fast, or maybe the beans were undercooked. But I think your brain knows how much you SHOULD eat. Guys have a much faster metabolism though! I DO like eating without restrictions. I love long big slow meals. I just don't like being " over " full. Actually during the day I think " Oh, I'm just gonna stuff myself tonight " but I never do. I did have a nice bowl of coconut ice cream last night though, something I haven't allowed myself for a long time. > Now, I can't really eat like that on ANY eating plan I've ever >> read. But it sure makes me happy! > > >Yes Heidi, and this is so key, IMO, for long term success. I'm having >a good time while losing weight. Imagine that! Yes, that's probably why I've been " on " NT so long. Actually it's more like " stuck " . When something works you get dragged into it like a gravity well .. no one around here would imagine " cheating " on NT by eating a low-fat chicken breast, for instance, or sneaking out and avoiding kimchi. >I can put up with a few >> hunger pangs during the day (if my energy level is ok) if >> I know I can eat at dinner. > >Ahh, according to the website, the " warrior " has come out in you, LOL I prefer " The Gourmand " ;-) Xena is cute but I just *can't* picture me in a brass bikini. -- Heidi " The Gourmand " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2003 Report Share Posted August 16, 2003 Over the last month on a low carb, high protein, high fat diet I've lost 20 inches and I'm worse off than you. Stomach stapling shouldn't even be an option. =( My mom is watching how well I am doing and still has her surgery set for next month. I think it is a terrible thing done because doctors truly believe we are the way we are because we eat too much, binge etc. I have always tried to eat like a bird and yet the pounds just kept coming. Dawn On 9 Aug 2003 at 18:36, Judy Nielsen wrote: > Hi friends! I just figured out how to post, but have been reading for > probably a year. I have been incorperating Price's knowlege into my > life and feel like it makes so much more sense than anything other way > of eating I've tried. > > I have a question about weight loss and stomach stapleling...has > anyone here lost more than 100 lbs and *kept it off* or even know of > anyone who has without having surgery? I am concidering it, being > morbidly obese, 265# and a bmi of 43, 5'5 " tall. The thing that I > find facinating is that after surgery, you are supposed to eat a high > protien diet, fat is not restricted, but carbs are! I would love to > hear what other have done, especially if someone had it done and kept > eating well. Thanks! (I REALLY don't want to have it done, but life > is getting harder and harder) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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